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Point is to maximize synergy, and maximize bonuses. For example, when taking Banner of Brotherhood with 5 models in the squad vs 13 models in the squad = getting 13 extra attacks for 25 points, instead of only 5 attacks for 25 points. This goes for other buffs, bonuses, and psychic powers too. Attach the ENTIRE HQ unit to the Paladin squad and beat face with your unstoppable Draigostar.

HQ
Kaldor Draigo
Tigurius (roll Telepathy for Invisibility which is absolutely necessary, should get it since can reroll when rolling for psychic powers)
1x GK Librarian ML3 (if didn't get Invisibility, roll Telepathy for Invisibility until get it, then take Prescience since it's the Primaris Power for Divination... Prescience is second most important after Invisibility)
1x GK Librarian (if still didn't get Invisibility roll Telepathy for Invisibility until get it, then take Prescience)

ELITES
10x Paladin /w Apothecary, Brotherhood Banner, 9x Daemon Hammers, 2x Incinerators and 2x Psycannons

TROOPS
5x Grey Knight Strike Squad /w Melta Bombs
10x Ultramarines Tactical Squad /w 2x Lascannon (split into combat squads)

HEAVY SUPPORT
1x Nemesis Dreadknight /w Incinerator

TOTAL 1850 points

Something even more insane would be to add another HQ choice from the Ultramarines which would also be legal... not sure what the best choice is though just dawned on me another HQ is possible. What do you think would be a good addition?

Well, you'll have problems in maelstrom missions when you need to score each round.
The army is too top heavy.

you also cant take 2 lazcannons in a single tac squad.

Dreadknight without teleporter should have psycannon and not incinerator.

also strike squad without transport is useless.

Yes very top heavy missions would probably be difficult.

Noted about 2 Lascannons thanks.

Dreadknight will deepstrike, no teleporter not a big issue will most likely be in close combat turn 1 when opponent charges, if not then turn 2 when I charge.

Same with GKSS.

Also, the point is to use the primary squad... everything else (minus the NDK) is to meet requirements to be able to take what is in the primary squad.

There's so little to this force.

Avoid the slow unit of Terminators, take all the objectives. Job done.
If your opponent simply ignores this unit (which should be pretty easy) then you have no hope.

Your supposed to use centurions instead of pakidens so you can actually kill something

Librarian: Psyker (Mastery Level 3); book of awesomeness 160
Lord Kaldor Draigo 245

5 Terminators: psycannon; 4× Nemesis force sword; Nemesis Daemon hammer 195
5 Terminators: psycannon; 4× Nemesis force sword; Nemesis Daemon hammer 195

Nemesis Dreadknight: Nemesis greatsword; heavy psycannon; personal teleporter 205
Nemesis Dreadknight: Nemesis greatsword; heavy psycannon; personal teleporter 205

Chief Librarian Tigurius 165

5 Scouts: 5× sniper rifle 60

6 Devastator Centurions: 4× missile launcher; Centurion Sergeant (omniscope) 420

1,850 points

OneMeanDuck wrote:
Your supposed to use centurions instead of pakidens so you can actually kill something

Librarian: Psyker (Mastery Level 3); book of awesomeness 160
Lord Kaldor Draigo 245

5 Terminators: psycannon; 4× Nemesis force sword; Nemesis Daemon hammer 195
5 Terminators: psycannon; 4× Nemesis force sword; Nemesis Daemon hammer 195

Nemesis Dreadknight: Nemesis greatsword; heavy psycannon; personal teleporter 205
Nemesis Dreadknight: Nemesis greatsword; heavy psycannon; personal teleporter 205

Chief Librarian Tigurius 165

5 Scouts: 5× sniper rifle 60

6 Devastator Centurions: 4× missile launcher; Centurion Sergeant (omniscope) 420

1,850 points

That's a mean list.

if the cent devs dont have grav cannons or lazcannons they are useless.

dont get me wrong. that many heavy bolter shots will mow down infantry, but you dont pay that many points for a unit that can mow down infantry.

Eihnlazer wrote:
if the cent devs dont have grav cannons or lazcannons they are useless.

dont get me wrong. that many heavy bolter shots will mow down infantry, but you dont pay that many points for a unit that can mow down infantry.

It wouldn't be the end of the world to drop one Cent and upgrade the rest...

To go back to your original list.

Draigo
Libby

10 Pallys (go with 4 psycannons)

Dreadknight, Incinerator & Teleporter

Spend the rest on strike squads in Rhinos or Razors.

 phantommaster wrote:

Eihnlazer wrote:
if the cent devs dont have grav cannons or lazcannons they are useless.

dont get me wrong. that many heavy bolter shots will mow down infantry, but you dont pay that many points for a unit that can mow down infantry.

It wouldn't be the end of the world to drop one Cent and upgrade the rest...

To go back to your original list.

Draigo
Libby

10 Pallys (go with 4 psycannons)

Dreadknight, Incinerator & Teleporter

Spend the rest on strike squads in Rhinos or Razors.

This.

Centurii have a bad taste in a GK army. Drop these suckers.

What's the best way to deploy the Draigostar?

If have invisibility will be able to survive through the other player's turn fairly easily, but if don't have invisibility a deep strike or Gate of Infinity is probably a bad idea, right?

Well, I'd deploy it in the centre and let it walk through the centre independent of invisibility.
You have to play it aggressively no matter what the enemy throws at it.

You need levitation to make it work

Good Luck

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
You need levitation to make it work

No, don't hesitate playing aggressively no matter what powers you get.
Otherwise, I'll regret it. I've played it several times, it worked.

Trollio14 wrote:
Good Luck

This. You're definitely going to need it. I don't think many list will be fearful of this nowadays. The idea is OK. And it may be pretty survivable. But even with draigo being able to jump the unit everywhere it's pretty easy to avoid it.

Well, I wouldn't go overboard with a Draigostar, just Draigo + Libby + 5 Palladins.
The enemy will throw everything he has against it.
In the meanwhile I'll go for his throat.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I wouldn't go overboard with a Draigostar, just Draigo + Libby + 5 Palladins.
The enemy will throw everything he has against it.
In the meanwhile I'll go for his throat.

This exactly. Throwing every single point in to it and just 'filling the mandatory slots' will ensure you lose.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
You need levitation to make it work

No, don't hesitate playing aggressively no matter what powers you get.
Otherwise, I'll regret it. I've played it several times, it worked.

Without levitate, the unit is just to slow. levitate means you can move 18 inches in one turn.

 ninjafiredragon wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 ninjafiredragon wrote:
You need levitation to make it work

No, don't hesitate playing aggressively no matter what powers you get.
Otherwise, I'll regret it. I've played it several times, it worked.

Without levitate, the unit is just to slow. levitate means you can move 18 inches in one turn.

I think I'd rather fish for invisibility over levitate, and just risk scatter. I'll give this a shot though and see how it compares, completely forgot about this spell as an option. I've been running running two librarians in my lists if I get invisibility early, might switch to telekinesis instead of divination.

I think the Grey Knight detachment looks cool, but what Grey Knight lack is the long-range AT support, so best bet for Ultramarine detachment is just Tigirius, a sniper scout or just bolter scout squad with teleport homer, and a Tri-las Predator Tank. The Scout to infiltrate ahead, and porvide non scatter deep strike for the 4 Psycannon "Draigo Palatanks" on 1st turn, and Predator shoot at enemy armour.

I think a Culexus Assassin can be a problem?