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Hi all,
I'd just like to share an eldar tactic that I used very effectively in a recent game.
What you need is a waveserpent with holofields (and optionally ghostwalk), a farseer, a spiritseer and 5 wraithguard with d-scythes

So this tactic involves a bit of luck to work most effectively. You pretty much need to get horrify with your spiritseer. So you can use this tactic 1/6 games very well and moderately well in any other game. I also usually include a unit of jetbikes with a warlock for an extra chance to get horrify.

Basically move the waveserpent flat out to get into position (near some dug in enemy units) on turn 1, try to use the ghostwalk matrix to get into cover so that you can avoid jinking, also don't fire the shields because you NEED to be able to move next turn.

on turn two move the serpent up and unload cargo as close as possible to the enemy, don't worry about cover, just try and maximize the amount of damage you can do with the d-scythes. Cast horrify on a different unit from the one that the wraithguard will be targeting, then psychic shriek them with the farseer and spiritseer. 3d6 has an expected value of 10.5, which is an expected value of 5.5 cover and armor save ignoring wounds against Ld8 for the each psyker for a total expected value of 11 wounds.
I don't think I need to explain what to do with the wraithguard, pretty much roll the dice and annihilate the unit they are targetting. If you have the warp charges left over in the psychic phase and you rolled doom with the farseer then doom the unit that the wraithguard are targetting if they are pretty tough or numerous, otherwise it might be overkill.

Now you still have the waveserpent and you have 3 options of what to do with it:
a) take out any nearby transports or light vehicles that thought they were safe behind cover
b) finish off either of the two units if they are still alive after being d-sycthed or shrieked at
c) move flat out and tank shock the horrified unit if you rolled badly for the psychic shreiks

Basically you are destroying 2 full units in one turn and then you have your waveserpent to back you up

Hope this helps some fellow eldar players destroy some enemies hiding out in cover cheers!

A unit can't use the same psychic power twice in one phase.

My understanding is that they can. However if the farseer fails psychic shriek, then the unit cannot cast it again. But if the farseer casts it successfull then another model in the unit is free to cast the same power

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Or farseer is actually a Jetseer with Mantle and everything works perfectly fine.
Apart from having a low chance of getting Horrify, it sounds fine. Especially when combo'ed with Terrify.

Just looked it up and you are right, dumb rule though. To get around this rule could you not have the farseer or spirit seer leave the unit on the disembark move, cast psychic powers, then run him back to the unit in the shooting phase?

you also cant shoot at two separate targets, even if you could do all that, what is the point? You take your wave serpent and wraithguard approximately what 400 points of your army and put it out of position in enemy territory, forgo shooting the best gun in your army all so you can melt one squad with scythes that is likely something cheap like tacticals or fire warriors.

This isnt a tactic.. ok maybe, but this forum isnt for BAD tactics

Rx8Speed wrote:
Just looked it up and you are right, dumb rule though. To get around this rule could you not have the farseer or spirit seer leave the unit on the disembark move, cast psychic powers, then run him back to the unit in the shooting phase?

You only join back in the movement phase. so enjoy getting shot the feth up

 Desubot wrote:

Rx8Speed wrote:
Just looked it up and you are right, dumb rule though. To get around this rule could you not have the farseer or spirit seer leave the unit on the disembark move, cast psychic powers, then run him back to the unit in the shooting phase?

You only join back in the movement phase. so enjoy getting shot the feth up

Yeah I forgot to type that too, you can only join OR leave a squad once per turn, so even if your farseer was sitting in the middle of your squad he could and will die on the next turn.

Rules are important.

chadbrochill17 wrote:
you also cant shoot at two separate targets, even if you could do all that, what is the point? You take your wave serpent and wraithguard approximately what 400 points of your army and put it out of position in enemy territory, forgo shooting the best gun in your army all so you can melt one squad with scythes that is likely something cheap like tacticals or fire warriors.

This isnt a tactic.. ok maybe, but this forum isnt for BAD tactics

Pyschic shriek is a psychic power, not a shooting attack so you can split fire. And also I don't think that not firing the serpent shield turn one in order to make sure you drop off the unit where it needs to go is so bad, especially if you're moving flat out. And the beauty of a fast vehicle is you don't have to go for the tacticals or fire warriors, you can hit almost anything on the board.

I guess using 2 psychic shreiks wouldn't work but even one psychic shriek is pretty devastating against a horrified devastator squad or dark reapers