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2014/09/04 18:24:37
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Do reanimation protocols work after failing a hellfrost wound?
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2014/09/04 18:25:48
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes, as raac is same as being removed from play.
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2014/09/04 18:38:21
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What does raac mean?
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2014/09/04 18:44:49
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you. |
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2014/09/04 19:13:47
Subject: Re:Hellfrost on necrons
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Fixture of Dakka
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Instant Death, removed from play, and removed as a casualty, etc are all synonymous now.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2014/09/04 19:18:00
Subject: Re:Hellfrost on necrons
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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 DarknessEternal wrote:Instant Death, removed from play, and removed as a casualty, etc are all synonymous now.
Wait, so Instant death would deny RP ad EL?
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you. |
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2014/09/04 19:26:47
Subject: Re:Hellfrost on necrons
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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No, none of them work against Reanimation Protocol.
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2014/09/04 19:54:18
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Sweeping Advance still denies RP's though
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2014/09/04 20:35:16
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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As it is explicitely excluded by the rule itself 
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2014/09/05 07:06:23
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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and EL, unless they changed 7th ed SA to not exclude special rules?
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2014/09/05 09:01:56
Subject: Re:Hellfrost on necrons
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Been Around the Block
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DarknessEternal wrote:Instant Death, removed from play, and removed as a casualty, etc are all synonymous now.
A bit off-topic, but to what context this applies?
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2014/09/05 09:16:49
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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For when you get to make RP / EL rolls - previously Removed from Play did NOT allow you to make RP rolls.
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2014/09/05 10:33:08
Subject: Hellfrost on necrons
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Been Around the Block
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nosferatu1001 wrote:For when you get to make RP / EL rolls - previously Removed from Play did NOT allow you to make RP rolls.
Understood.
Actually, nevermind me, I tend to get overly pedantic when I encounter sweeping statements
It doesn't help that I strongly associate Helfrost stuff with cases when it's important to remember that ID and plain "RAAC" are different things, but that's another topic entirely.
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2014/09/05 10:54:23
Subject: Re:Hellfrost on necrons
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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DarknessEternal wrote:Instant Death, removed from play, and removed as a casualty, etc are all synonymous now.
Something else occurred to me; doesn't that mean "Removed from play with no saves allowed" or "Removed as a casualty with no saves allowed" is the same as Instant Death.
Surely that means Eternal Warrior makes me immune to those..?
Or is that wishful thinking?
If it isn't, where does it tell you they are all synonymous?
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2014/09/05 16:38:12
Subject: Re:Hellfrost on necrons
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 Ond Angel wrote:DarknessEternal wrote:Instant Death, removed from play, and removed as a casualty, etc are all synonymous now.
Something else occurred to me; doesn't that mean "Removed from play with no saves allowed" or "Removed as a casualty with no saves allowed" is the same as Instant Death.
Surely that means Eternal Warrior makes me immune to those..?
Or is that wishful thinking?
If it isn't, where does it tell you they are all synonymous?
They are synonymous for the purpose of their interaction with RP/ EL. Not for all cases. They are very similar because they have basically the same effect. But because they are different terms, things that call out and protect you from one specifically (Eternal Warrior only protects against Instant Death) do not protect you from the either things that have a similar but differently named effect.
Keep in mind... synonymous does NOT mean equivalent and/or interchangable, it means they are similar.
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2014/09/05 16:51:30
Subject: Re:Hellfrost on necrons
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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chanceafs wrote: Ond Angel wrote:DarknessEternal wrote:Instant Death, removed from play, and removed as a casualty, etc are all synonymous now.
Something else occurred to me; doesn't that mean "Removed from play with no saves allowed" or "Removed as a casualty with no saves allowed" is the same as Instant Death.
Surely that means Eternal Warrior makes me immune to those..?
Or is that wishful thinking?
If it isn't, where does it tell you they are all synonymous?
They are synonymous for the purpose of their interaction with RP/ EL. Not for all cases. They are very similar because they have basically the same effect. But because they are different terms, things that call out and protect you from one specifically (Eternal Warrior only protects against Instant Death) do not protect you from the either things that have a similar but differently named effect.
Keep in mind... synonymous does NOT mean equivalent and/or interchangable, it means they are similar.
I understand now.
Though, before posting my previous response I did look up the definition, in case I was thinking incorrectly,, and it gave me two definitions; "to be similar", and also "to have the same meaning as another word or phrase in the same language", which is why I wasn't so sure.
Thanks for the clarification though.
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