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 Steve steveson wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
They're obviously some kind of criminal scumbags. It was probably over drugs or other money related issue.

Seems more like a mental health issue. Seems unlikely that the 82 year old woman was involved in some sort of turf war, which is when this kind of violence normally happens with money and drugs, and seems unlikely it was a robbery or some such given that he also beheaded the cat and attacked the flower bed.

That was my bad posting, I was talking about Avatar720's Manchester example.

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Yeah, usually when Muslim extremists behead people, they want the whole world to know about it. Else what is the point?
(Well, at least in country where sharia law is not applied. Of course, when it is some “legal” beheading like they do all the time in Saudi Arabia, no need to tell the world, for some reason…)

The US and China don't tend to tell the world when they execute people either. Not attacking or defending capital punishment, but lets not pretend only Muslim countries do it, or that there is an equivalence with terrorist acts.

To be fair, I haven't seen the U.S. recently execute anyone over accusations of witchcraft , or because they turned from one faith to another.

Just saying, that's from breitbart.

even if he is muslim it doesn't mean he killed someone because he was Muslim, it could easily mean he decided to be Muslim because they have "morale" tenets that make murder "acceptable" in their culture under certain extreme "interpretations"

often people with sadist tendencies will seek to join groups that let them act out on them more openly, like the military, ISIS, gangs, the police, etc.

Or he could be a crazy person who joined up and was crazy.

 Steve steveson wrote:
Not attacking or defending capital punishment, but lets not pretend only Muslim countries do it, or that there is an equivalence with terrorist acts.

You are right. Other countries do use capital punishment. But as far as I know, none of them use beheading as the execution method . Not completely sure, though.

 Steve steveson wrote:
I would not be suppriesd if the Muslim bit had something to do with the choice of method, but I am sure that had he not been a Muslim convert that, if it is mental health issues, then he would have done something else. It would have been the Flying Spaghetti Monster telling him to strangle people with Linguine or Yoda telling him she was a sith lord (amusing it is that kind of mental health problem).

I would not be surprised if the insanity was there prior to the conversion. Because, you know, one needs to be quite mad to convert .

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Or he could be a crazy person who joined up and was crazy.

which sounds the most likely by far.

So sad for that poor old lady :(

had some crazy go cray cray up here not to long ago and decapitate someone on a greyhound.


Sounds like an incident of craziness as opposed to any kind of organized terror though.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
I wonder if the guy has mental issues, or used bath salts

I am looking forward to "If she had a gun this would't have happened!" and "Ban knives!" comments.

funny, I see far more passive aggressive attacks on guns that make statements like "If she had a gun this would't have happened!" sarcastically then I do see people actually suggesting it seriously. THat and the fact that literally, hundreds of thousands of crimes actually ARE prevented by guns,

makes your statement passive aggressive, useless, condescending, and making light of the victim,

in the same way as if you sarcastically said after someone died in a fire "if she had a fire extinguisher, this wouldnt have happened!"

This is not how you give head..

On a serious note, this is a atrocious act in today's world.

Relapse wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Yeah, usually when Muslim extremists behead people, they want the whole world to know about it. Else what is the point?
(Well, at least in country where sharia law is not applied. Of course, when it is some “legal” beheading like they do all the time in Saudi Arabia, no need to tell the world, for some reason…)

The US and China don't tend to tell the world when they execute people either. Not attacking or defending capital punishment, but lets not pretend only Muslim countries do it, or that there is an equivalence with terrorist acts.

To be fair, I haven't seen the U.S. recently execute anyone over accusations of witchcraft , or because they turned from one faith to another.

And I haven't heard of any Saudi executions causing someone to die a slow painful death recently, so let's not get in to a pissing contest of "my death penalty is better than your death penalty". Even the most ardent campanier against capital penalty would agree that there is a difference between capital punishment and a terrorist act when pushed.

 Steve steveson wrote:
And I haven't heard of any Saudi executions causing someone to die a slow painful death recently

You have not really tried to inform yourself on Saudia execution, I suppose.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:
And I haven't heard of any Saudi executions causing someone to die a slow painful death recently

You have not really tried to inform yourself on Saudia execution, I suppose.

he probably thinks getting stoned to death means something other then what it means perhaps?

 Bromsy wrote:

Relapse wrote:
He apparently beheaded a cat and was attacking flowers as well.

To be fair, flowers suck.

So do cats.


But yeah... this whole thing seems bizarre, and I'm interested in how this all turns out.

 Steve steveson wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Yeah, usually when Muslim extremists behead people, they want the whole world to know about it. Else what is the point?
(Well, at least in country where sharia law is not applied. Of course, when it is some “legal” beheading like they do all the time in Saudi Arabia, no need to tell the world, for some reason…)

The US and China don't tend to tell the world when they execute people either. Not attacking or defending capital punishment, but lets not pretend only Muslim countries do it, or that there is an equivalence with terrorist acts.

To be fair, I haven't seen the U.S. recently execute anyone over accusations of witchcraft , or because they turned from one faith to another.

And I haven't heard of any Saudi executions causing someone to die a slow painful death recently, so let's not get in to a pissing contest of "my death penalty is better than your death penalty". Even the most ardent campanier against capital penalty would agree that there is a difference between capital punishment and a terrorist act when pushed.

A terrorist act when pushed? Where are you going with that statement?

When pushed to compare the two, dumbass.


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 Albatross wrote:
When pushed to compare the two, dumbass.


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Not what I was asking about, but nice try and insult, anyway.

Relapse wrote:

 Albatross wrote:
When pushed to compare the two, dumbass.


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Not what I was asking about, but nice try and insult, anyway.

I was only messing. Soz.

 Albatross wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Albatross wrote:
When pushed to compare the two, dumbass.


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Not what I was asking about, but nice try and insult, anyway.

I was only messing. Soz.

Ok, no problem,home from work, sick, so a bit of a thin skin on my part there, bro. I usually laugh my ass off on the stuff you address me with because your way of expressing yourself reminds me of a favorite cousin of mine.

 easysauce wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:
And I haven't heard of any Saudi executions causing someone to die a slow painful death recently

You have not really tried to inform yourself on Saudia execution, I suppose.

he probably thinks getting stoned to death means something other then what it means perhaps?

Whoa now....
I posted an article a bit back on here that Saudi was running low on Executioners.
Get a good salary and a very nice sword to do the job

They're even beheading idiots who are caught "drifting" if I remember correctly

Saudi Arabia, reminding us that the Mullah are actually pretty progressive .

Any murder of a non-muslim by a muslim is his answer to the call of jihad. ie Chechen cuts the throat of a bus driver while in transit in TN, it was treated as a local criminal case not an act of terrorism. If she was a non-muzzie then it should be treated as an act of terrorism.

Well we had gotten far enough without something stupid.

 Kelly502 wrote:
Any murder of a non-muslim by a muslim is his answer to the call of jihad. ie Chechen cuts the throat of a bus driver while in transit in TN, it was treated as a local criminal case not an act of terrorism. If she was a non-muzzie then it should be treated as an act of terrorism.

So any violent crime committed by a muslim should be considered terrorism? Yeah that's absolute bs

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/woman-beheaded-first-picture-of-muslim-convert-nicknamed-fat-nick-suspected-of-murdering-82yearold-9714057.html

"He was named locally as Nicholas Salvadore, a 25-year-old would-be cage fighter who is believed to be a Muslim convert, who had been living a few doors from 82-year-old Palmira Silva."
"Locals claimed Salvadore had converted to Islam last year."

So how trustworthy is the London Evening Standard?

 Steve steveson wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Yeah, usually when Muslim extremists behead people, they want the whole world to know about it. Else what is the point?
(Well, at least in country where sharia law is not applied. Of course, when it is some “legal” beheading like they do all the time in Saudi Arabia, no need to tell the world, for some reason…)

The US and China don't tend to tell the world when they execute people either. Not attacking or defending capital punishment, but lets not pretend only Muslim countries do it, or that there is an equivalence with terrorist acts.

To be fair, I haven't seen the U.S. recently execute anyone over accusations of witchcraft , or because they turned from one faith to another.

And I haven't heard of any Saudi executions causing someone to die a slow painful death recently,

Recently as in last month?

"Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool..."

Sorcery?


though I have never seen WoW or EQ games for sale over there....

The police are reporting it as a straight up murder and not terrorist related.

I don't buy that due to the MO. Frankly I think the police would say its not a terrorist attack even if he shouted Allah Akbar while beheading his victim, further copy cat attacks are the last thing the government wants.

More likely they're not going to feed into the "terrorist scare" being people chain of thought is already linking it to a terrorist act (home grown)

I don't know ... I would think that perhaps the 82 year old lady was rather terrorized whilst he was carving away like she was a filet of fish. I think they should charge him as a terrorist ... I am in 'Murica and I am scared that things like this are going to happen here .... I better go buy more guns. Just execute him ... no trial, no jury. If he is insane, there is no doctor on the planet that is going to be able to fix him, if he is not insane, then he deserves to die.

lol ok, we have a competition going.