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I play Tau, but I started a small chaos force and now have become completely bored with tau. So, I'm gonna sell my tau force for most likely dark angels, an army that has grabbed my interest. Here is my 1000 point list after flipping through the codex:

HQ:

Company Master in Termie armor: Power Sword, storm bolter, storm shield: 145 pts.



Elites:

5x Deathwing Knights: 235 pts

Troops:

Scouts w/ snipers: 60 pts

5x Marines with multi melta, lightning claw, rhino: 130

5x Marines with multi melta, lightning claw, rhino: 130
FAST ATTACK:

Ravenwing Assault Sqaudron: 4x bikes + sergeant w/ PF, meltas: 179 pts

Heavy Support:

Predator with Lascannons, Autocannon: 115 pts.

For 994 pts.

Looks reasonable, but I'm confused by the Multimeltas. The lightning claw and rhino suggest a squad that's moving forward, which would mean that the multi is snap-shooting most of the time. Why not swap them for ordinary meltaguns?

 Quanar wrote:
Looks reasonable, but I'm confused by the Multimeltas. The lightning claw and rhino suggest a squad that's moving forward, which would mean that the multi is snap-shooting most of the time. Why not swap them for ordinary meltaguns?

To be honest, I'm not used to space marines and assumed multi meltas were assault. Changed it to melta guns, thanks! Anything else?

Ok firstly I wouldn't recommend selling anything, you might regret it later.

With that said lets look at the list:

i) Company master is the worst DA HQ available. If you are looking for greater competitiveness then take an IC or librarian instead.

ii) Why take lightning claws? Tac squads are not made for assaulting, it gives you nothing vs vehicles and does not give you +1 attack. If you want a melee weapon, take a force axe and meltabombs, or a powerfist. Personally the only upgrades I would take are melta bombs and a combi melta.

DW Knights struggle without a transport in larger games, but in 1000pts they might do ok - they'll present a threat that would need to be dealt with, and scouting forward with the teleport-homing bikes can allow them to deep strike turn 1 close to the enemy (scouting the bikes is a more dangerous tactic if going second). If the enemy has the tools to deal with them (Plasma cannons etc.) then things could end badly.

The list is short of bodies on the ground, but that's something you'll have to get used to if you stick with DA.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Ok firstly I wouldn't recommend selling anything, you might regret it later.

With that said lets look at the list:

i) Company master is the worst DA HQ available. If you are looking for greater competitiveness then take an IC or librarian instead.

ii) Why take lightning claws? Tac squads are not made for assaulting, it gives you nothing vs vehicles and does not give you +1 attack. If you want a melee weapon, take a force axe and meltabombs, or a powerfist. Personally the only upgrades I would take are melta bombs and a combi melta.

Why take the IC over the company master? I don't see a major difference other than the rosarius.

I like it. However, the meltaguns will surve the purpose of mobility better than the multi-melta.

 jns6397 wrote:


Why take the IC over the company master? I don't see a major difference other than the rosarius.

Company Masters are generally thought to be a little overpriced compared to some other HQ. I almost always use a Librarian because they are so cheap. Company Master and Interrogator-Chaplains aren't the most point efficient HQ choices. It's a shame because I do like both models from DV starter.

 jns6397 wrote:
[Why take the IC over the company master? I don't see a major difference other than the rosarius.

The Company Master has an Iron Halo (basically the same thing as a Rosarius), so the difference is Zealot (which really helps high-quality low-quantity attacks like DW Knights), and can't take a storm shield.

 Bomb Squig wrote:

 jns6397 wrote:


Why take the IC over the company master? I don't see a major difference other than the rosarius.

Company Masters are generally thought to be a little overpriced compared to some other HQ. I almost always use a Librarian because they are so cheap. Company Master and Interrogator-Chaplains aren't the most point efficient HQ choices. It's a shame because I do like both models from DV starter.

Would you recommend puttingthe librarian in power armor and In a rhino with a tact squad, or terminator armor and deep striking him with the knights?

Bump for my above question..

Personally I would put him on a bike. This is better for your overall army plan for the future, as it unlocks ravenwing command squads, which are the best single unit in the codex.

 jns6397 wrote:

 Bomb Squig wrote:

 jns6397 wrote:


Why take the IC over the company master? I don't see a major difference other than the rosarius.

Company Masters are generally thought to be a little overpriced compared to some other HQ. I almost always use a Librarian because they are so cheap. Company Master and Interrogator-Chaplains aren't the most point efficient HQ choices. It's a shame because I do like both models from DV starter.

Would you recommend puttingthe librarian in power armor and In a rhino with a tact squad, or terminator armor and deep striking him with the knights?

I run DA and I either take a librarian as bike or termi. In 1000pts if you are taking the knights as well have the Libby deep strike with the knights and perhaps take perfidious relic for extra anti psych ability.

Mordred wrote:

 jns6397 wrote:

 Bomb Squig wrote:

 jns6397 wrote:


Why take the IC over the company master? I don't see a major difference other than the rosarius.

Company Masters are generally thought to be a little overpriced compared to some other HQ. I almost always use a Librarian because they are so cheap. Company Master and Interrogator-Chaplains aren't the most point efficient HQ choices. It's a shame because I do like both models from DV starter.

Would you recommend puttingthe librarian in power armor and In a rhino with a tact squad, or terminator armor and deep striking him with the knights?

I run DA and I either take a librarian as bike or termi. In 1000pts if you are taking the knights as well have the Libby deep strike with the knights and perhaps take perfidious relic for extra anti psych ability.

How would you recommend building the librarian on the bike? Like which kits?

I used the DV set to make mine. Bike sergeant legs with librarian body.

Search dark vengeance bike librarian for ideas.

Have you seen someone netlist? 3 lrc with a SoD and PFFG carried by company command squad led by librian?