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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/22 21:23:06
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Primered White
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I'm sure this is a common question, but as A SM player (fluffing them as Deathwatch), just how many detachments could I field and how?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/22 21:27:18
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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1st, all Battleforged lists can contain unlimited detachments.
2nd, any detachment can come from any codex or supplement or dataslate, EXCEPT: An Allied detachment cannot be the same faction as the Primary detachment. Exception: SM chapters with different chapter tactics can be in primary/allied detachments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/22 21:59:58
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Primered White
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So for example I could do the following in a 2000 point game:
500 point SM (Salamanders)
500 point SM (White Scars)
500 point SM (Imperial Fists)
500 point allied SM (Minotaurs)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0052/04/22 22:02:36
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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Sure!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Don't forget the 1 HQ and 1 or 2 Troops requirements for those detachments, as well as the max for each FOC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 01:27:37
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Primered White
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So let me see if I have this correct:
As long as I fill EACH of the requirements (Fast Attack, Elite, Heavy) I can pick up another chart worth of units?
Slightly confused.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 01:35:43
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ReNoid wrote:So let me see if I have this correct:
As long as I fill EACH of the requirements (Fast Attack, Elite, Heavy) I can pick up another chart worth of units?
Slightly confused.
Fast Attack, Elite, and Heavy are not requirements. They're optional additions. You merely need to fulfill the literal requirements of the CAD chart; that is to say, you need 1HQ and 2Troops per detachment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 02:17:58
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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spycer wrote:1st, all Battleforged lists can contain unlimited detachments.
2nd, any detachment can come from any codex or supplement or dataslate, EXCEPT: An Allied detachment cannot be the same faction as the Primary detachment. Exception: SM chapters with different chapter tactics can be in primary/allied detachments.
This is all 100% correct, but I do want to point out that there is nothing I can find explicitly prohibiting a player from taking a second (or 3rd, 4th, etc) combined arms detachment taken from a different codex than their primary combined arms detachment. I think the intent of the rules was supposed to be that if you were going to take a 2nd detachment from a different codex than your primary detachment, you were supposed to use the Allied Detachment to do this, but since the rules don't explicitly say you can't just take an additional combined arms detachment from a different codex, there is nothing stopping players from doing just that; except for tournaments or other external restrictions that prevent players from taking more than one combined arms detachment, of course.
So a player can take a combined arms detachment of Eldar, for example, as their primary detachment and then they could also take a 2nd combined arms detachment of Chaos Space Marines.
If anyone can find rules preventing this, I would love to know of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 02:44:26
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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yakface wrote: spycer wrote:1st, all Battleforged lists can contain unlimited detachments.
2nd, any detachment can come from any codex or supplement or dataslate, EXCEPT: An Allied detachment cannot be the same faction as the Primary detachment. Exception: SM chapters with different chapter tactics can be in primary/allied detachments.
This is all 100% correct, but I do want to point out that there is nothing I can find explicitly prohibiting a player from taking a second (or 3rd, 4th, etc) combined arms detachment taken from a different codex than their primary combined arms detachment. I think the intent of the rules was supposed to be that if you were going to take a 2nd detachment from a different codex than your primary detachment, you were supposed to use the Allied Detachment to do this, but since the rules don't explicitly say you can't just take an additional combined arms detachment from a different codex, there is nothing stopping players from doing just that; except for tournaments or other external restrictions that prevent players from taking more than one combined arms detachment, of course.
So a player can take a combined arms detachment of Eldar, for example, as their primary detachment and then they could also take a 2nd combined arms detachment of Chaos Space Marines.
If anyone can find rules preventing this, I would love to know of them.
I actually assumed this was intended, and have taken multiple CADs from multiple codeces in almost every game of 7th. I've had a game which was one detachment Mechanicum, one detachment Guard, one detachment Armored Battlegroup, and one detachment Space Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 02:57:06
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I guess the one thing an Allied Attachment allows is for you to only have to take 1 troops choice...so if you really, really, really don't want to take that 2nd troops choice, then the allied detachment is there for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 08:02:06
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch
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Remember that the Combined Arms Detachment and the Allied Detachment aren't the only options when it comes to Detachments. Newer books often contain alternative Detachments and Formation Detachments.
So this is also a Battle Forged list:
Tyranid Formation Detachment - Skyblight
Chaos Space Marine Formation Detachment - Helbrute Murderpack
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12k+ pts Chaos Marines, Heretic Guard and Daemons (The Scourged)
2k pts Tyranids (Hive Fleet Hornet) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 08:08:28
Subject: Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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yakface wrote:
I guess the one thing an Allied Attachment allows is for you to only have to take 1 troops choice...so if you really, really, really don't want to take that 2nd troops choice, then the allied detachment is there for you.
Yep, and then there are also the other detachments, like the GK or Ork specific ones - given you can take any number of any type of detachment, you could have 2 CAD, 1 Ally, one GK strikeforce, one Ork....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/23 13:00:24
Subject: Re:Combined Arms Detachment and Battle Forged question
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Death-Dealing Devastator
Bournemouth
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and formations  , like stormwing or strike force ultra. they are bound too
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