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Belakor stays in the shadows, manifesting invisibility on the Chaos bikes, that rush up the battlefield. Meanwhile Abaddon and 19 zombies hurls out the hatch 12" forward, disembarks 6" further, and Abaddon now join the Bikers.
Abaddon already got MoS, with excess on the bikers, he can take a hit with his 2+/4++ FNP. The rest of the army shuffle around, and turn two the bikers pull abaddon into a CC.

Abaddon
Belakor

Plague Zombies x 25: (6p per zombie from IA: Vraks)
Plague Zombies x 25:
Plague Zombies x 25:
Plague Zombies x 25:
Plague Zombies x 19:
Plague Zombies x 15:

Bikes x 10: MoS, plasma x 2, Escess, LC, PF, GoM

Bunker: Hatch

What do you think?

You can't take Zombies without Typhus in your force.

I think you can, If you take the plague zombies from Vraks.

In IA book volume seven, plague zombies are a troops choice, and not an upgrade like Typhus.

If IA is not allowed, then you are correct, then you need Typhus to unlock them.

Abadon is not a good choice to put with the bikes, a slanesh lord or sorcerer on a bike with the black mace is cheaper and does basically the same thing. Assuming you get invisibility off they shouldn't have to tank many wounds and if you do you have a 2+ jink save.


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Abadon is better in a land raider in my opinion with a sorcerer buddy, preferably mark of tzeench to get free boons which only make him better(abadon cannot become a spawn or deamon prince) or with some kind of terminator friends. I even think mutilators could work but I've never seen them used and only heard bad things.

I've not used that book before but after a quick search, it sounds pretty cool.

Reading a post on warseer, It seems there are permissions for some units that allow you to use them in a csm list. Blight Drones are mentioned to have one, but it sounds like the Zombies do not, so you may want to double check.

If it does allow it, would you mind posting back on here please? I'd quite like to try it myself and maybe get the book.

That sounds pretty cool. It might be worth squeezing in Necrosius in order to give all of those undead the gift of Furious Charge. His spells also complement the zombies nicely. He can also unlock cultists-as-zombies, in the event that you can't use the Vraks zombies in any of your games (it specifically says that Necrosius can be used as an HQ choice for CSM).

It actually seems like you need an detachment from Vraks. So you would need to take a HQ aswell.

Thantos, do you know? can we bring plague Zombies in CSM (vraks zombies), without buying Typhus aswell?

Necrosius 160p (Vraks zombies are s4, and with this HQ, they even get s5 on the charge)

Plague Zombies
Plague Zombies
Plague Zombies
Plague Zombies
Plague Zombies
Plague Zombies

Then pick the rest from CSM:

Belakor

Cultist x 10

Bikers x 10 etc

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With 7th, and all the armor driving around, the black mace dont do the job. Abaddon can beat alot of different stuff, why dont he fit with the bikers?

Speed

Sure, but he will most likely be in CC turn 2. Isnt it worth it?

The only way he slow them down turn 2, is that you need to make a tail with the bikes.

I do see what your saying, I just believe Abaddon got great potential. Expecially with the escape hatch, and slingshotting him further.

 stinkbomba wrote:
It actually seems like you need an detachment from Vraks. So you would need to take a HQ aswell.

Thantos, do you know? can we bring plague Zombies in CSM (vraks zombies), without buying Typhus aswell?

Yes, you should be able to bring the Vraks zombies outside of Typhus, but either as a separate CAD or allies slot for CSM. To explain further: Necrosius can be an HQ choice in either a Vraks or CSM detachment: running him will grant either type of zombie (Typhus' plague zombies, or Vraks zombies) Furious Charge; however, my understanding is that Necrosius does not unlock plague zombies, so if you are running him solely in CSM, you would also need Typhus to first turn cultists into zombies. If you run the Vraks zombies via a separate detachment, then you won't need Typhus (but all would benefit from Furious Charge).

The disadvantages of Vraks Zombies are one less point of WS (offset by +1 S), and random movement (but apparently they can run). Having the ability to glance most vehicles more than makes up for this, IMHO.

Where are all these different books from? Vrak? I bet, it is an old book that laughs at 6th ed csm.

I guess the books are abit old, but It seems that the Vraks are getting polished.

I like Typhus better than I like the hole Vraks. But If you like that kind of thing, check out the IA books.

I am going to start playing zombies, but I dont know what the rest is going to be.

Huron is an alternativ, considering infilitrating 35-105 zombies.
Belakor + Daemon Prince
Tzeralds + screamers

I will post back, when I got more experience with zombies in 7th.