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so after playing the 10th anniversary update (yay relic is still around!) I had a nagging thought that I want to ask the forums... how accurate is the things that happen in DoW dark crusade?

1- can the eldar, as a dying race, take over the whole planet?

2- Can a Necron tomb world be destroyed like in DoW without it blowing up the whole planet?

3- would a chapter be that stubborn as to kill the imperial guard for not leaving the planet?

4- do the buildings the space marines use make sense with the drop pods hitting perfectly on each station and dissapearing?

5- if there was a huge chaos incursion on a planet like on kronus, would the planet just be exterminatus'd? or is there hope to save the rest of the planet?

1 - While the Eldar are a "dying race", there's still billions of Eldar. So, yeah, they could take over a planet or five.

2 - A Tomb Complex can be destroyed through a variety of means. How it's done in DOW is.... not the right way to go about it, but it's a video game. Destroying the Tomb Complex does not destroy the world.

3 - Yes.

4 - It's a video game. The Imperium does not actually air-drop entire buildings.

5 - Not if the Inquisition believes the planet is salvageable. If this is the belief, then large sums of resources (read as: human lives) will be expended in retaking the planet. If that belief changes, then the planet gets blown up.

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
so after playing the 10th anniversary update (yay relic is still around!) I had a nagging thought that I want to ask the forums... how accurate is the things that happen in DoW dark crusade?

1- can the eldar, as a dying race, take over the whole planet?

No, Eldar specifically do not hold ground at all really, unless they're trying to push back Chaos. They fight with hard, precise strikes backed up with constant instructions by Farseers peering into the future to avoid disaster. They come out of the Webway, blitz you to death, then vanish almost as fast as they arrived.

2- Can a Necron tomb world be destroyed like in DoW without it blowing up the whole planet?

Probably not, but it depends on how much mass the collapsed cave actually had to bury them. They'll probably be back though.

3- would a chapter be that stubborn as to kill the imperial guard for not leaving the planet?

There's chapters that will kill entire regiments for finding out stuff they shouldn't know. There's chapters that will consider bombing hostages they were supposed to rescue as acceptable parameters for completing the mission. And there's others who will just RIP AND TEAR.

4- do the buildings the space marines use make sense with the drop pods hitting perfectly on each station and dissapearing?

Well for one, I don't even remember space marines actually EVER building prefab bases. They either just imminent domain some Imperial Guard buildings or if they have a lot of time, will build an actual fortress/castle. As for the drop pods sticking a perfect landing every time on the barracks? Probably not.

5- if there was a huge chaos incursion on a planet like on kronus, would the planet just be exterminatus'd? or is there hope to save the rest of the planet?

If the Word Bearers show up with a crusade, the entire sector will be collectively gaking themselves and you'll have a lot more imperial forces then just a single company of space marines and an Imperial Guard regiment coming down on that invasion. Exterminus is not necessarily the only course of action, if they win they might keep the planet. Although I imagine the SOB would show up to burn everything remotely heretical to the ground.


In short, no. DOW is very, very strange and more inconsistent with typical 40k than most Black Library novels.

The Eldar didn't even want the planet, they wanted to stop the possible warlords that would have arisen on Kronus had they stood by and did nothing.

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
so after playing the 10th anniversary update (yay relic is still around!) I had a nagging thought that I want to ask the forums... how accurate is the things that happen in DoW dark crusade?

1- can the eldar, as a dying race, take over the whole planet?

2- Can a Necron tomb world be destroyed like in DoW without it blowing up the whole planet?

3- would a chapter be that stubborn as to kill the imperial guard for not leaving the planet?

4- do the buildings the space marines use make sense with the drop pods hitting perfectly on each station and dissapearing?

5- if there was a huge chaos incursion on a planet like on kronus, would the planet just be exterminatus'd? or is there hope to save the rest of the planet?

1- The Eldar CAN but it doesn't really fit their methods to hold planets.

2- Not really no.

3 - Yes.

4 - No. They can probably carry in buildings like the Guard but I doubt it's regular.

5 - Depends if it's serious it gets Exterminatused but if a Daemon World is too serious then the Grey Knights are sent in to ensure that the Daemons are actually killed instead of your torpedo's vanishing somewhere.

 GreaterGoodIreland wrote:
The Eldar didn't even want the planet, they wanted to stop the possible warlords that would have arisen on Kronus had they stood by and did nothing.

Not that, they didn't have an issue with the Guard. The Necrons are the sworn enemies of the Eldar since time immemorial.

okay admittedly question 3 was very stupid, but space marines have set up structures before right?

Not usually. They don't often remain on the planet after they've kicked the ass of whatever it was brought them there in the first place. Usually, they make use of whatever pre-existing buildings were there.

If they decide to take the world for their own, then they'll have someone (Chapter Serfs) build them a castle.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 GreaterGoodIreland wrote:
The Eldar didn't even want the planet, they wanted to stop the possible warlords that would have arisen on Kronus had they stood by and did nothing.

Not that, they didn't have an issue with the Guard. The Necrons are the sworn enemies of the Eldar since time immemorial.

The Eldar ending suggests that Taldeer was there to insure that no one could gain control of the planet without cost, because of the possibilities of pretty much all the other endings except the Imperial ones: Chaotic Crusade, huge Tau expansion, huge Ork Waagh, and the big one of course, Necron tombworld going around killing everyone.

Don't call 'em Farseers for nothing. The canon ending suggests she succeeded in allowing a complete victory, though disappeared.

What's this about an Update? Can I see the patch notes?

 GreaterGoodIreland wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 GreaterGoodIreland wrote:
The Eldar didn't even want the planet, they wanted to stop the possible warlords that would have arisen on Kronus had they stood by and did nothing.

Not that, they didn't have an issue with the Guard. The Necrons are the sworn enemies of the Eldar since time immemorial.

The Eldar ending suggests that Taldeer was there to insure that no one could gain control of the planet without cost, because of the possibilities of pretty much all the other endings except the Imperial ones: Chaotic Crusade, huge Tau expansion, huge Ork Waagh, and the big one of course, Necron tombworld going around killing everyone.

Don't call 'em Farseers for nothing. The canon ending suggests she succeeded in allowing a complete victory, though disappeared.

Spoiler:

(after falling in love with a Vindicare Assassin corrupted by Slaanesh, huehue!) (this part is not actually canon... unless you believe FFG canon is canon...)

The canon ending is that the Blood Ravens curbstomped the Eldar and everyone else with Taldeer later being killed while trying to rescue the soul stones left behind as the rest of the Craftworld fled Kronus. Then in DOW Retribution her soul stone was later retrieved by her brother.

 Wyzilla wrote:
The canon ending is that the Blood Ravens curbstomped the Eldar and everyone else with Taldeer later being killed while trying to rescue the soul stones left behind as the rest of the Craftworld fled Kronus. Then in DOW Retribution her soul stone was later retrieved by her brother.

Just as planned. Apart from the dying part.

Why the hell her soulstone wasn't on Kronus, and was in fact in an entirely different sector, is beyond explanation. Unless you're into fanfics with sly hat-tips in FFG literature.

It was a really ham-fisted plot point that Retribution introduced. One of a few, as I recall. The campaign in Retribution was easily the weakest of the DoW2 trilogy.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
It was a really ham-fisted plot point that Retribution introduced. One of a few, as I recall. The campaign in Retribution was easily the weakest of the DoW2 trilogy.

Not to mention bringing in bizarre plot points from DoW I.

 GreaterGoodIreland wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
The canon ending is that the Blood Ravens curbstomped the Eldar and everyone else with Taldeer later being killed while trying to rescue the soul stones left behind as the rest of the Craftworld fled Kronus. Then in DOW Retribution her soul stone was later retrieved by her brother.

Just as planned. Apart from the dying part.

Why the hell her soulstone wasn't on Kronus, and was in fact in an entirely different sector, is beyond explanation. Unless you're into fanfics with sly hat-tips in FFG literature.

Taldeer was taken before Kyras when he arrived on Kronus. He had her executed, and took her soulstone as a trophy.

Some of the Eldar representations in DC were good though.

Leaving a Ranger behind after stomping out the Orks is the kind of thing they do, although a Scorpion is more likely since Rangers tend not to like sticking around like that.