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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/04 07:16:00
Subject: [1850] - NEW Dark Eldar - look at the newy newness with shooty and Incubi!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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So the HQ slot seems a bit of a bust. Lelith looks strong particularly in a challenge but she's expensive and makes a unit worth points which is bad. MSU is king in 7th so how do the kings of MSU get on with their new dex? Ravagers are gone Beastpack is dead and the Web Way Portal just seems like it is yet another boon to the Eldar book more than the DE one. So what can we use?
Succubus: Archite Glaive 95
Incubi: Klaivex; Venom 2 SC 135
Incubi: Klaivex; Venom 2 SC 135
Incubi: Klaivex; Venom 2 SC 135
Warriors: Blaster; Venom 2 SC 120
Warriors: Blaster; Venom 2 SC 120
Warriors: Venom 2 SC 105
Scourges: 4 Heat lances 120
Scourges: 4 Heat lances 120
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Razorwing: Dark Lances, Night Shields 155
Razorwing: Dark Lances, Night Shields 155
Voidraven: Shatterfield Missiles, Night Shields 215
ADL: Comms, Quadgun 120
So the idea is very shooty with a couple of counter assault throw away units. Strong airforce for AA. The mix of weapons on the Scourges is so I only have to buy 8 packs to do the 4 units but the Heat Lances have their uses (DS next to Knights). What do you think?
Misread Demiklaives not taking them now so swapped for Night Shields on Razorwings.
Added ADL with comms meaning I dropped a blaster from warrior squad manning it. Meaning I could upgrade another squad to more Incubi.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/04 10:04:24
Subject: [1850] - NEW Dark Eldar - look at the newy newness with shooty and Incubi!
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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The only problem I see is no psychic defence.
Swap one unit of warriors for a Aegis defence line + comms relay et al. Then swap one of your Razorwings for a C. assassin .
You've got better anti-air, better chance for your own fliers+ Scourges to come in, plus you can shut down most psychic heavy death stars.
I'd also consider swapping 1-2 unit of Scourges for a reaver unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/04 11:00:59
Subject: [1850] - NEW Dark Eldar - look at the newy newness with shooty and Incubi!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I like Reavers but don't want to give up the AT that the Scourges provide. I might swap for ADL and comms that's a good idea more control for flyers and for heat lance Scourges.
Culexus Assassin has no real way to get within 12" of the enemy so I don't really see him providing much anti psyker. Plus I wanted to stay away from allies at this point. If I was bringing Allies it would be Eldar Wraithguard delivered by Web way portal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/04 12:25:56
Subject: [1850] - NEW Dark Eldar - look at the newy newness with shooty and Incubi!
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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It depends on how comp. you want the list.
Scourges are going to function much in the same way as Swooping hawks- come in, kill a tank/half a unit and die.
Revears on the other hand are more multifunctional and more likely to survive a few turns just slightly effective at taking out armour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/04 13:16:29
Subject: [1850] - NEW Dark Eldar - look at the newy newness with shooty and Incubi!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Reavers are Ok but I don't have the spare FA slots as you get 2 units for the price of scourges. I like them but they don't do what I want. The Haywire Scourges start on the field. Will they die to a stiff breeze? Of course everything in the army does, its DE.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/04 14:17:52
Subject: [1850] - NEW Dark Eldar - look at the newy newness with shooty and Incubi!
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Disciplined Sea Guard
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I'm looking at doing similar lists.
The lack of special weapons in the scourge box is a problem. I don't particularly want to have get 8 boxes myself! I would actually say that heat lances are a good option anyway since they are a bit more versatile in what they can target and still be effective at. The haywire blasters will look real silly when you look across the table at an army of monstrous creatures.
Do you think the bomber is worth it? It seems to me that the point difference between it and the razorwing is pretty large with missiles on board. It would be all down to whether that bomb can actually kill that many points worth. Pretty hit and miss for a one shot weapon.
I like what you are doing with that many incubi. Would you consider grabbing a raider for one squad to the Succubus can ride along with? - scrap that, I assume your units are sub 5 models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/04 15:32:24
Subject: [1850] - NEW Dark Eldar - look at the newy newness with shooty and Incubi!
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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FlingitNow wrote:So the HQ slot seems a bit of a bust. Lelith looks strong particularly in a challenge but she's expensive and makes a unit worth points which is bad. MSU is king in 7th so how do the kings of MSU get on with their new dex? Ravagers are gone Beastpack is dead and the Web Way Portal just seems like it is yet another boon to the Eldar book more than the DE one. So what can we use?
Succubus: Archite Glaive 95
Incubi: Klaivex; Venom 2 SC 135
Incubi: Klaivex; Venom 2 SC 135
Incubi: Klaivex; Venom 2 SC 135
Warriors: Blaster; Venom 2 SC 120
Warriors: Blaster; Venom 2 SC 120
Warriors: Venom 2 SC 105
Scourges: 4 Heat lances 120
Scourges: 4 Heat lances 120
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Razorwing: Dark Lances, Night Shields 155
Razorwing: Dark Lances, Night Shields 155
Voidraven: Shatterfield Missiles, Night Shields 215
ADL: Comms, Quadgun 120
So the idea is very shooty with a couple of counter assault throw away units. Strong airforce for AA. The mix of weapons on the Scourges is so I only have to buy 8 packs to do the 4 units but the Heat Lances have their uses ( DS next to Knights). What do you think?
Misread Demiklaives not taking them now so swapped for Night Shields on Razorwings.
Added ADL with comms meaning I dropped a blaster from warrior squad manning it. Meaning I could upgrade another squad to more Incubi.
Pssst, The Realspace Raiders FoC doesn't have a fortification slot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/04 16:14:28
Subject: [1850] - NEW Dark Eldar - look at the newy newness with shooty and Incubi!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Well scrap that then...
Succubus: Archite Glaive 95
Incubi: Klaivex; Venom 2 SC 135
Incubi: Klaivex; Venom 2 SC 135
Warriors: Blaster; Venom 2 SC 120
Warriors: Blaster; Venom 2 SC 120
Warriors: Blaster; Venom 2 SC 120
Warriors: Blaster; Venom 2 SC 120
Scourges: 4 Heat lances 120
Scourges: 4 Heat lances 120
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Razorwing: Dark Lances, Night Shields 155
Razorwing: Dark Lances, Night Shields 155
Voidraven: Shatterfield Missiles, Night Shields 215
The Voidraven brings S9 Lances, better missiles and the Implosion bomb. It has huge potential damage output.
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