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I saw that elsewhere, though it makes me think the wife must have known about for some time but did nothing until the divorce happened. To bug therapy you need to have some pretty specific information. He deserves all the bad things about to happen to him, but she seems kinda creepy too.

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What a freak.

   
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My opinion of the wife is not much higher than my opinion of him.

If he tells you what he did, and you decide to go to therapy and get recordings to use against him later instead of going straight to the police, then you have some seriously fethed up priorities.
   
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 d-usa wrote:
My opinion of the wife is not much higher than my opinion of him.

If he tells you what he did, and you decide to go to therapy and get recordings to use against him later instead of going straight to the police, then you have some seriously fethed up priorities.



I certainly agree with that as well. She's a freak too.

   
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Be careful what you wish for. If you've ever seen a woman and thought she was hot, only to find out she was 17 years, 364 days and 23 hours old... you are a pedophile under the law too. Most people on the "sex offender's list" are guilty of pissing outside a bar (charged as lewd conduct = sex offenders list in many districts.

Sure, counsel/execute/whatever the actual pre-pubescent kiddie diddlers, but don't jump on bandwagon. And before you throw accusations, I'm not on any of those lists so don't project onto me. I'd rather cops go after people abusing kids rather than those who are downloading Sailor Poon or whatever.


   
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RAWRAIrobblerobble wrote:
Be careful what you wish for. If you've ever seen a woman and thought she was hot, only to find out she was 17 years, 364 days and 23 hours old... you are a pedophile under the law too.


That isn't what a pedophile is, is not what a pedophile does, nor is it even close to the situation going on here.

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RAWRAIrobblerobble wrote:
Be careful what you wish for. If you've ever seen a woman and thought she was hot, only to find out she was 17 years, 364 days and 23 hours old... you are a pedophile under the law too. Most people on the "sex offender's list" are guilty of pissing outside a bar (charged as lewd conduct = sex offenders list in many districts.

Sure, counsel/execute/whatever the actual pre-pubescent kiddie diddlers, but don't jump on bandwagon. And before you throw accusations, I'm not on any of those lists so don't project onto me. I'd rather cops go after people abusing kids rather than those who are downloading Sailor Poon or whatever.





I get what you're saying about urinating outside of a bar and things like that. This guy has admitted to actually abusing kids though.

   
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At first I read that as Steven Colbert. I was getting ready to be all like Darth Vader screaming, but then I reread it.

Sick fether.

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That boy and his wife both need lockin up.
   
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The law needs to be applied to him, and his wife.

The poster stating her priorities were screwed up... yup. I agree fully.

It's one thing to have an attraction to young kids and never act on it, it's completely another to actually fething do it. Eugh.

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I was wondering when someone was going to use a trek reference.
   
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RAWRAIrobblerobble wrote:
Be careful what you wish for. If you've ever seen a woman and thought she was hot, only to find out she was 17 years, 364 days and 23 hours old... you are a pedophile under the law too. Most people on the "sex offender's list" are guilty of pissing outside a bar (charged as lewd conduct = sex offenders list in many districts.

Sure, counsel/execute/whatever the actual pre-pubescent kiddie diddlers, but don't jump on bandwagon. And before you throw accusations, I'm not on any of those lists so don't project onto me. I'd rather cops go after people abusing kids rather than those who are downloading Sailor Poon or whatever.





Yeah...that's completely inaccurate. Many states have the age of consent at 16. Others are at 17. Sleeping with someone that age is usually legal: depends on the state. Do your research before making comments like this. Are you from Georgia? Cuz I know the age of consent there is "married". And that post was a bit too high strung.

On topic...bad form, father. Bad form. Ironic he was the pastor.

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 VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Uh oh - 7th Heaven is one of the missus' favourites

Didn't he play a priest on minister in that one? That's one hell of a trippy coincidence there.


 
   
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I had no idea who this guy was until the Trek reference, but as soon as I saw his face I recognised him as Decker straight away.

I think it just goes to show how the stereotype of child abusers as creepy anti social weirdos like Jimmy Savile really isn’t all that helpful.

Stephen Collins was (and to an extent still is) a handsome and fairly famous man who could have easily gotten consensual sex with any number of beautiful women and yet he still chose to abuse young girls. Same with Ian Watkins, famous good looking guy with string of gorgeous celebrity Girlfriends and yet still was a child abuser.

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 Ahtman wrote:
RAWRAIrobblerobble wrote:
Be careful what you wish for. If you've ever seen a woman and thought she was hot, only to find out she was 17 years, 364 days and 23 hours old... you are a pedophile under the law too.


That isn't what a pedophile is, is not what a pedophile does, nor is it even close to the situation going on here.


That rebuke doesn't go far enough.
Pedophilia refers to child rather than underage, there is a difference. Jailbait isn't pedophilia not least because jailbait appears older than it is. Pedophilia as a condition is attraction to pre-pubescent victims. Post pubescent sex is a social matter, ages of consent differ widely. In modern western society age of consent can be as low as thirteen (Spain and Argentina) and as high as nineteen, other cultures can add or take away two years.

This is why prosecution for underage sex and pedophilia are kept separate, except by the lower press who lump it all in together.
This doesn't help as I suspect a lot of actual pedophiles are innocent of any crime. Pedophilia is the condition of sexual attraction, not (only) a criminal offense per se. So someone is a pedophile or not regardless of whether they commit an underage sex offense. Most pedophiles probably suppress their urges in the way gay people had to do in earlier society.

Pedophiles are quite rare, underage sex is more common, and those knowingly chasing jailbait would often not want anything sexual to do with a pre-pubsescent child. The law recognises the difference, its the press who do not. From what we know of the cases Ian Watkins, Gary Glitter and Jimmy Saville are all pedophiles, Rolf Harris very likely isnt, and if Stephen Collins alleged offenses are proven he still might not be either.

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I confused the thread title with Phil Collins (of Bone Thugs-n-Harmony fame) first. No idea who this Stephen is.

Anyway, good for him. Phil Collins, that is.

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Aesop the God Awful wrote:
I confused the thread title with Phil Collins (of Bone Thugs-n-Harmony fame) first.


Okay, now I'm picturing the *other* Phil Collins (the pasty white British one) in a rap group, trying to get a bunch of angry black dudes to sing "Land of Confusion"

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squidhills wrote:
Okay, now I'm picturing the *other* Phil Collins (the pasty white British one) in a rap group, trying to get a bunch of angry black dudes to sing "Land of Confusion"

There's only one Phil Collins, dude



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 Breotan wrote:
 VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Uh oh - 7th Heaven is one of the missus' favourites

Didn't he play a priest on minister in that one? That's one hell of a trippy coincidence there.
He sure did

   
 
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