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LIST A

Overlord
Catacomb Command Barge, Phase Shifter, S Weave, W Scythe, MSS, Res Orb
Court: Despairtek, 2 x Stormteks

Overlord
Catacomb Command Barge, Phase Shifter, S Weave, W Scythe, MSS
Court: Despairtek, 2 x Stormteks

5 x Deathmarks
Night Scythe

5 x Warriors
Night Scythe

5 x Warriors
Night Scythe

10 x Warriors
Ghost Ark

Anni Barge

Anni barge


LIST B:

Overlord
Catacomb Command Barge, Phase Shifter, S Weave, W Scythe, MSS, Res Orb, T Labarynth
Court: Despairtek, 2 x Stormteks

Overlord
Catacomb Command Barge, Phase Shifter, S Weave, W Scythe, MSS, Rea Orb, T Labarynth
Court: Despairtek, 2 x Stormteks

5 x Deathmarks
Night Scythe

5 x Warriors
Night Scythe

5 x Warriors
Night Scythe

Anni Barge

Anni barge

Doom Scythe

So dead simple: which list in a tournament environment? Thoughts appreciated!

Forget about the Labyrinth.
No reason not to kit both your lords exactly the same.


I don't know if the Deathmarks are worth the price increase over warriors. But if they are, maybe they are worth it twice.


Ghost Ark with 10 warriors ? why ? do you want to completely annihilate its Necron creation potential ?

In my opinion, the first list, with 4 Night Scythes, no Ghost Ark, both res orbs.

I'm not sure about the Despairteks though, which units do they join ? how do you synergize that ?

Despairteks join Deathmarks. Their AP1 flamer then wound the unit they mark on a 2+

I'd take 2 squads if I had the models.

The ghost ark is about obsec on the board and mobile 20/40 shots of gauss for glancing / ant light infantry....

Obsec is overrated.
But if that's the purpose, then shift to 5 necron warriors, so that the ghost ark may create new Necrons from the start.

Didn't think the ghost ark can ever take a unit above its starting size, dude.

morgoth wrote:
Obsec is overrated.
But if that's the purpose, then shift to 5 necron warriors, so that the ghost ark may create new Necrons from the start.

Ghost arks cannot create necrons beyond the starting troop size. Read the codex.


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Please provide info about the format, for example . . .

What does the terrain look like for this tourney?

LoW allowed?

Expected armies in the meta?

Maelstrom? Modified maelstrom? Eternal War?

Don't know about terrain.

LOW up to 400pts (so yes, Knights). Invisibility nerfed down to BS/WS 1.

Won't know about terrain until I get there, but all preset by organisers.

No idea about Meta but expecting lots of:

Gating/Drop-podding centurions
Wave serpent / Wraithknight heavy Eldar lists
Knights
TWC Wolves
Probably Daemons?

If you play Necron, you should probably read the Necron FAQ.

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morgoth wrote:
If you play Necron, you should probably read the Necron FAQ.

Page 53 - Repair Barge
Change the third sentence to 'If the result is 2 or more, add D3 models to the unit. These must be placed within unit coherency of at least one model that hasn't been created this turn. They can move and act normally this turn.'

You should read the codex, not just the faq. The fourth sentence (the bit AFTER this) says that the unit can't be any bigger than its starting size.

morgoth wrote:
If you play Necron, you should probably read the Necron FAQ.

Page 53 - Repair Barge
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Oh I am fully aware of the FAQ. Read the following line in the codex "This cannot take the unit beyond its starting size." Not sure where you got the idea you could grow troops in GA from 5 to 10. Obviously you are not too familiar with Necrons.

Also, your tone is off. It makes you come of kinda smug, which I'm sure is not what you mean, but "if you play necrons you should read the FAQ" (especially when you haven't read the codex) makes you seem kinda brash.


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But thanks for taking the time to look at my army list. You should check out the Despairtek / Deathmark combo. It's a goody!


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So which list would you rock, col impact?

Kholzerino wrote:
Also, your tone is off. It makes you come of kinda smug, which I'm sure is not what you mean, but "if you play necrons you should read the FAQ" (especially when you haven't read the codex) makes you seem kinda brash.


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But thanks for taking the time to look at my army list. You should check out the Despairtek / Deathmark combo. It's a goody!


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So which list would you rock, col impact?

List A is better. I would knock a few warriors off the GA and put a Labyrinth on one of the bargeLords. Also I would be more inclined to play 2 GA and 2 NS with solarTeks in the GA.

My hunch is that the TOs will have lots of LOS blocking terrain for you. I would prepare 2 lists. Your alternate one should run wraithwing, medium spider farm, or even something like a Ork Bully Boyz formation. Your A list will lose to a cluttered terrain field, but your alt list will shine.

Do you know if its maelstrom, modified maelstrom, or eternal war?

It's eternal primary, modified maelstrom secondary, then tertiary is linebreaker, slay the warlord, and first strike (like first blood but only in first turn and both players can score). Primary 6pts Secondary 4 pts Tertiary 2 pts.

Considered bringing two lists and bringing a one CCB, D Lord wraithwing too as an alt based on terrain, so good to hear someone doesn't think that's cheating... Might try it.

Kholzerino wrote:
It's eternal primary, modified maelstrom secondary, then tertiary is linebreaker, slay the warlord, and first strike (like first blood but only in first turn and both players can score). Primary 6pts Secondary 4 pts Tertiary 2 pts.

Considered bringing two lists and bringing a one CCB, D Lord wraithwing too as an alt based on terrain, so good to hear someone doesn't think that's cheating... Might try it.

It's only cheating if you change the list after you officially submit it. Making last minute adjustments to a list is legal and you should not feel bad at all about doing so since everyone else at that event has the same opportunity to do so.

Cool. Good plan.


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And thanks!

Knowing the event you are going to and what is being taken, IMO you need more anti-knight. I quite like list 2 but something like tau gunline/fire support cadre will shoot it off the table. Adamantine Lance played well will unfortunately do bad things if you make any mistakes.

morgoth wrote:
Obsec is overrated.
But if that's the purpose, then shift to 5 necron warriors, so that the ghost ark may create new Necrons from the start.

Omg, this is too good. It doesn't create more. It can't take about the starting unit size.


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morgoth wrote:
If you play Necron, you should probably read the Necron FAQ.

Page 53 - Repair Barge
Change the third sentence to 'If the result is 2 or more, add D3 models to the unit. These must be placed within unit coherency of at least one model that hasn't been created this turn. They can move and act normally this turn.'

Oh my goodness, this just made my night. Like, really. For realzzz. Like, I just can't contain this feeling right now. Guys...guys....I'm losing it....