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http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Radical

Here is a list of the radical sub-factions of the inquisition

Recongregationism, Antiquarti, and the Ocularians seem to be decent enough.

The Seculos Attendous sound great.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Recongregationism, Antiquarti, and the Ocularians seem to be decent enough.

The Seculos Attendous sound great.

what about istavaanism that says that the imperium/mankind made its greatest leaps, achievements after periods of conflict..strength through adversity


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but what about xanthism..said to be the most radical ideology of the inquisition that says


chaos will never be defeated and is just a reflection of humanity and that the power of chaos should be harnassed to benefit humanity and not be seen as an enemy

LightKing wrote:
but what about xanthism..said to be the most radical ideology of the inquisition that says chaos will never be defeated and is just a reflection of humanity and that the power of chaos should be harnassed to benefit humanity and not be seen as an enemy

Within the 40k universe, that's the one closer to truth IMHO. Only, past attempts to harness the power of Chaos have ended... well, bad for all those involved.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:

LightKing wrote:
but what about xanthism..said to be the most radical ideology of the inquisition that says chaos will never be defeated and is just a reflection of humanity and that the power of chaos should be harnassed to benefit humanity and not be seen as an enemy

Within the 40k universe, that's the one closer to truth IMHO. Only, past attempts to harness the power of Chaos have ended... well, bad for all those involved.

i think i lean towards xanthism...but i also believe in instavaanism, in the context of the 40k unviverse...that conflict helps the imperium advance.....


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 Agent_Tremolo wrote:

LightKing wrote:
but what about xanthism..said to be the most radical ideology of the inquisition that says chaos will never be defeated and is just a reflection of humanity and that the power of chaos should be harnassed to benefit humanity and not be seen as an enemy

Within the 40k universe, that's the one closer to truth IMHO. Only, past attempts to harness the power of Chaos have ended... well, bad for all those involved.

you have to agree that Istavaanism makes alot of sense...

LightKing wrote:
you have to agree that Istavaanism makes alot of sense...

I'm not that sure about Istvaanians. I mean, the entire Wh40k setting proves them wrong, and somehow they keep on insisting. Dunno, zero scientific advancement in 10.000 years, fighting a losing war in all fronts, religious fanaticism and being ruled by a dead man in a throne is not exactly what I'd call a Golden Age. Different standards, maybe

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:

LightKing wrote:
you have to agree that Istavaanism makes alot of sense...

I'm not that sure about Istvaanians. I mean, the entire Wh40k setting proves them wrong, and somehow they keep on insisting. Dunno, zero scientific advancement in 10.000 years, fighting a losing war in all fronts, religious fanaticism and being ruled by a dead man in a throne is not exactly what I'd call a Golden Age. Different standards, maybe

true true..istavaanians claim that the greatest leaps of advancement of the Imperium came after periods of conflict

but is this true..looking at the history of the imperium all the way to 40k

LightKing wrote:

but what about xanthism..said to be the most radical ideology of the inquisition that says


chaos will never be defeated and is just a reflection of humanity and that the power of chaos should be harnassed to benefit humanity and not be seen as an enemy

It's true that Chaos will never be defeated and is just a reflection of humanity. As for "harnessing" it, that's an awful idea. Chaos is very much the enemy. It's a mirror image and reflection of ourselves, yes, but twisted. The Dark Gods are Mad Gods. They think things are good that humans would not feel pleasant experiencing. It's why deals with Daemons rarely go well.

 Harriticus wrote:

LightKing wrote:

but what about xanthism..said to be the most radical ideology of the inquisition that says


chaos will never be defeated and is just a reflection of humanity and that the power of chaos should be harnassed to benefit humanity and not be seen as an enemy

It's true that Chaos will never be defeated and is just a reflection of humanity. As for "harnessing" it, that's an awful idea. Chaos is very much the enemy. It's a mirror image and reflection of ourselves, yes, but twisted. The Dark Gods are Mad Gods. They think things are good that humans would not feel pleasant experiencing. It's why deals with Daemons rarely go well.

so people that believe in xanthism are too crazy

Xanthites are demonstrably wrong about harnessing Chaos. It always, always, always ends badly, 100% of the time. Full stop. Now, their philosophy about studying Chaos to better understand it and fight it isn't wrong, but even then the knowledge gained can drive someone mad.

Istvaanians are striaght up mucking futs. The Imperium is stronger after massive conflict? Yeah, because everything has been just dandy since the Horus Heresy.... whatever, guys.

Seculous Attendos sound like a good idea, until you realize that faith is the greatest weapon the IoM currently has against Chaos. Destroying the Ecclesiarchy would deprive the Imperium of that weapon, leaving it pretty much helpless before the Warp. Yeah, the Ecclesiarchy is chock full of stupid, but the overall effect of their one religion is to give humanity a fighting chance at facing the Warp, now that the Big E is stuck on the toilet.

Polypsykana is probably the most sane Radical faction. Humanity is becomming a psychic race, just like the Eldar. One can embrace this future, or resist it. The Imperium actually tries to do both at the same time, which helps nobody. Eventually mankind will become all psykers, and if nobody tries to take control and guide the development, it's going to result in either the extinction of humanity through massive Warp incursions and daemonic possesions, or Mankind is going to birth another Chaos god, just like the Eldar before them. By taking charge of the process and guiding it (and developing ways for psykers to control their powers) Polypsykana could safeguard humanity's future.

The rest of the Radical factions are all crazy, to varying degrees. The Phaenonites shouldn't even qualify as Radicals, as they have been excommunicated. They are straight up heretics, and I wish FFG had treated them as such, rather than sticking them in the Radical's Handbook.