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Kronwall's suspension was a bit soul crushing for me. Really shook my faith in the league.
Yes, the guy he hit had his head down, but that was not Kronwall's fault. The speeds they were moving at, he didn't have time to correct his hit. He feet didn't leave the ice before contact, at worse the hit deserved a fine, if even that. It was the first time he was brought up before the player safety board. A game 7 suspension for a first time offense? It was a bs call. Especially when there were more egregious blatantly illegal hits on Wing players earlier in the series without any action taken.
The only reason he was suspended is that the Wings were eliminated, if they were still in contention he would be active. The NHL only suspends people when it doesn't matter.
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djones520 wrote: He was given a suspension after game 6. He was suspended for game 7.
The NHL pulled the Wings #1 D man just before Game 7. Tell me that's not some bs.
I've never been one to buy into overarching conspiracies, but there definitely have been plenty of curious suspensions of key players on various teams at key times for infractions that seemed relatively minor.
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Its funny really, because the NHL constantly says that it doesn't want officials to determine games, but it is more than happy to do so itself...sometimes. Really it just needs to admit that the officials, and the rules they enforce (which are gak), define the game; making the officials and disciplinarians a part of the game. Also, the disciplinarians are morons.
As an example these were two incidents that occurred within this season.
The above was two games:
The above was 5 games.
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I kind of agree with those two suspensions as they were called though (at least insofar as the BOS/DAL one warranted fewer games lost)
From my point of view, as an average joe spectator, The Bos/Dallas hit you can pretty clearly see that the Boston player was an active participant, and was "ready" for the hit... the NY clip shows an elbow/shoulder to the head/face of a shooter who was more focused on his shot/movement than he was receiving a hit.
From my point of view, as an average joe spectator, The Bos/Dallas hit you can pretty clearly see that the Boston player was an active participant, and was "ready" for the hit... the NY clip shows an elbow/shoulder to the head/face of a shooter who was more focused on his shot/movement than he was receiving a hit.
As to the NY hit: that's not the best angle. The New York player hit him in the chest, and the Minnesota player's head snapped back as a result...because that's what happens when you get hit really hard in the chest. Even the NHL admitted the initial point of contact was the shoulder, and followed it up with some bs differentiating the "initial point of contact" from the "main point of contact".
I'm fine with a "No contact to the head." standard, if it is applied uniformly. The problem is that it isn't, I have seen far worse hits to the head than Moore's that got no penalization at all. A mixture of incompetence, personal bias, and money has created a perfect storm of stupidity.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
From my point of view, as an average joe spectator, The Bos/Dallas hit you can pretty clearly see that the Boston player was an active participant, and was "ready" for the hit... the NY clip shows an elbow/shoulder to the head/face of a shooter who was more focused on his shot/movement than he was receiving a hit.
As to the NY hit: that's not the best angle. The New York player hit him in the chest, and the Minnesota player's head snapped back as a result...because that's what happens when you get hit really hard in the chest. Even the NHL admitted the initial point of contact was the shoulder, and followed it up with some bs differentiating the "initial point of contact" from the "main point of contact".
I'm fine with a "No contact to the head." standard, if it is applied uniformly. The problem is that it isn't, I have seen far worse hits to the head than Moore's that got no penalization at all. A mixture of incompetence, personal bias, and money has created a perfect storm of stupidity.
Such as when Shea Weber grabbed Henrik Zetterbergs head, and slammed it into the wall a few years ago in the play-offs. He was just fined for that incident. While many of the above mentioned suspensions were just hits gone wrong, this was outright aggression with intent to hurt.
Inconsistency is certainly rampant...
Anyways, other big Hockey news. Babcock has been allowed to talk to other teams. There has also been talks of an offer sheet needing to be signed, for round 3 picks for the next 3 years. So if Babcock goes, we'll be getting something for it.
I'm not entirely against the idea. Blashill from the Grand Rapids Griffins is almost certain to be the choice to take his place, and I think he could do great things with the team. The only thing that has me worried if Babcock leaves, is if St. Louis ditches Hitchcock and grabs him up.
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Shea Weber is a liability (not the word I would use in personal conversation), and I'm glad he got injured in Blackhawks series. The fact that he is team captain speaks volumes about the team itself.
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djones520 wrote: The only thing that has me worried if Babcock leaves, is if St. Louis ditches Hitchcock and grabs him up.
Why would Babcock wanna go to St. Louis?
I think Hitch will be back next year.
I don't think he wants to go to St. Louis. I think if he goes anywhere, he's going to Buffalo or Edmonton.
Apparently his wife has a big say in where he ends up, hence I highly doubt he's heading to Edmonton, and most definitely NOT! Toronto either as the media here are utterly relentless when it comes to the organisation.
My gut says he goes to either the Pens or the Sharks as both teams have play-off competitive teams, with Buffalo being an outside option that'll depend entirely on what they do over the draft & early free-agency frenzy... (hell, Toronto would be a better 'long term project' than the smoldering train wreck that is the Sabers!)
Oh, and the Habs live to play another day! First time in franchise history that they've been down 3-0 and forced a game 6 too!
From my point of view, as an average joe spectator, The Bos/Dallas hit you can pretty clearly see that the Boston player was an active participant, and was "ready" for the hit... the NY clip shows an elbow/shoulder to the head/face of a shooter who was more focused on his shot/movement than he was receiving a hit.
As to the NY hit: that's not the best angle. The New York player hit him in the chest, and the Minnesota player's head snapped back as a result...because that's what happens when you get hit really hard in the chest. Even the NHL admitted the initial point of contact was the shoulder, and followed it up with some bs differentiating the "initial point of contact" from the "main point of contact".
I'm fine with a "No contact to the head." standard, if it is applied uniformly. The problem is that it isn't, I have seen far worse hits to the head than Moore's that got no penalization at all. A mixture of incompetence, personal bias, and money has created a perfect storm of stupidity.
Such as when Shea Weber grabbed Henrik Zetterbergs head, and slammed it into the wall a few years ago in the play-offs. He was just fined for that incident. While many of the above mentioned suspensions were just hits gone wrong, this was outright aggression with intent to hurt.
Inconsistency is certainly rampant...
Anyways, other big Hockey news. Babcock has been allowed to talk to other teams. There has also been talks of an offer sheet needing to be signed, for round 3 picks for the next 3 years. So if Babcock goes, we'll be getting something for it.
I'm not entirely against the idea. Blashill from the Grand Rapids Griffins is almost certain to be the choice to take his place, and I think he could do great things with the team. The only thing that has me worried if Babcock leaves, is if St. Louis ditches Hitchcock and grabs him up.
im actually ok with that hit on zetterberg only being a fine. (BTW before I go any further, I am not a fan of either team, im speaking completely from an unbiased POV) Zetterberg hit him on the numbers, at the end you can see zett trying to pull out of the hit and kinda rolls off him, but yeah, you get hit from behind like that and all you see is red and you want to destroy the person that did it.
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Woo-hoo! 8 year drought at the World's is over after Canada pretty much utterly destroyed Russia yesterday!
Not even really a game, considering the shots ended 37-12 in favour of our Canucks... Hell, in the second, Canada held the Russians to just a pathetic 1 shot! (maybe the Russians should have dressed lord Putin so he could score his 9th goal of the weekend?! )
Pretty low of team Russia though to leave the ice before the anthem was played, talk about classless.
If I were Hitchcock, I'd be pissed. Blues signed the offer sheet to talk to Babcock. They were fishing for a new coach.
I'm not surprised Babs left, i'm kind of glad he went on to a new team. The fact that he chose Toronto though... had to have been purely a money decision. He now earns more then twice what the second highest paid coach in the NHL gets.
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djones520 wrote: If I were Hitchcock, I'd be pissed. Blues signed the offer sheet to talk to Babcock. They were fishing for a new coach.
Eh... the company line was that Hitch was kept in the loop during the whole thing... even was asked on radio and he said something like, "you need big boys pants in this league". Had the Blues hired Babs... Hitch would remain with the Blues in upper management.
I'm not surprised Babs left, i'm kind of glad he went on to a new team. The fact that he chose Toronto though... had to have been purely a money decision. He now earns more then twice what the second highest paid coach in the NHL gets.
Our trade fodder right now consists of Jimmy Howard, and a handful of prospects who are just about NHL ready. Stephen Weiss as well, if anyone wants him.
Zetterberg and Datsyuk may be getting a little long in the tooth, but folks are crazy if they think they'll ever wear any Jersey but the one with the Winged Wheel on it.
djones520 wrote: If I were Hitchcock, I'd be pissed. Blues signed the offer sheet to talk to Babcock. They were fishing for a new coach.
Eh... the company line was that Hitch was kept in the loop during the whole thing... even was asked on radio and he said something like, "you need big boys pants in this league". Had the Blues hired Babs... Hitch would remain with the Blues in upper management.
I'm not surprised Babs left, i'm kind of glad he went on to a new team. The fact that he chose Toronto though... had to have been purely a money decision. He now earns more then twice what the second highest paid coach in the NHL gets.
Can he "fix" the Leaf?
Not with the useless prima-donas that make-up the current 'core unit' of that team...
Fail Kessel & Pylon Phaneuf need to go ASAP! They can also stand to be rid of Tyler Bozo for no real loss as well.
Jake Gardner is a huge liability who needs some serious ***kicking, while Kadri needs to stop acting like a gakking spoiled 4 year old.
They picked up a handful of 2nd & 3rd rounders before the trade deadline, along with Nashville's 1st rounder, on top of their own 4th overall pick. (Please, oh please take a d-man Toronto... letting your opponents wear themselves out by taking 40+ shots/game on your goaltenders isn't a winning strategy...)
Still can't believe Babs went for TO though! Hopefully he and the rest of the management team Shanny will be putting together can help turn this tem around... As a Habs fan, I'd love for games against the Leafs to become relevant again!
Though I hope for a 7 game series. Overtime in every game, maybe even 2 or 3 overtimes with a Lightning victory in triple overtime of game 7 followed by a parking lot parade.
Last time the lightning won the cup, they held it for 2 years.
I won't make a prediction because I spent way too much money for game 3 and 4 tickets, and there is nothing made of wood in my apartment to knock on. But thesetwo articles are interesting.
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