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Do people actually get offended by jokes about them or their nation? Everything is fair game for jokes including in fact in general the better friends you are with someone the more acceptable it is to the the piss outta them.
I think the problem with a lot of american versions of british shows is that they either try to do a shot for shot remake, or they change it too much and forget what made it funny.
The office was a good example of a good american version. It took the basic concept of the office but it made it distinctly american and distinctly its own. They understood what would and wouldn't work about the office in america.
TBH, I don't get offended by that sort of humour (provided it is in jest), but let's face it, it's just not funny is it? The 'my country's better than yours' gak? Pretty fething juvenile.
If there was a way to make it genuinely funny, then I'd be all for it. Joking about anything is forgiveable as long as it's genuinely funny. I honestly can't accurately put into words how dull I find the 'Britain: stuck-up/bad teeth, America: fat/stupid' stereotypes.
Oh yeah, actually I watched it on a whim on Netflix, and that was my introduction to Steve Coogan. After I saw that, I was hooked, and gobbled up anything I could find.....including most recently, Alpha Papa
Now I can't stop listening to "Cuddly Toy" in the car
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carlos13th wrote: Do people actually get offended by jokes about them or their nation?
Only people who actually take pride in accidents of birth
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Albatross wrote: TBH, I don't get offended by that sort of humour (provided it is in jest), but let's face it, it's just not funny is it? The 'my country's better than yours' gak? Pretty fething juvenile.
If there was a way to make it genuinely funny, then I'd be all for it. Joking about anything is forgiveable as long as it's genuinely funny. I honestly can't accurately put into words how dull I find the 'Britain: stuck-up/bad teeth, America: fat/stupid' stereotypes.
Exactly how I look at it. Each nation has its joys and down falls.
Albatross wrote: TBH, I don't get offended by that sort of humour (provided it is in jest), but let's face it, it's just not funny is it? The 'my country's better than yours' gak? Pretty fething juvenile.
If there was a way to make it genuinely funny, then I'd be all for it. Joking about anything is forgiveable as long as it's genuinely funny. I honestly can't accurately put into words how dull I find the 'Britain: stuck-up/bad teeth, America: fat/stupid' stereotypes.
I agree with this, but what I can't get behind is your dislike of Monty Python.
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Albatross wrote: Monty Python is rubbish. It just hasn't aged well at all.
Also, if you haven't seen Alan Partridge, Brass Eye, the Thick of It or the Office, your opinion of British comedy is null and void.
Absolutely incorrect, old chap. If we opened your head and removed the part that has already watched Life of Brian three or four times, and then made you watch it again, you would laugh your face off.
I'd also urge Dakkaites to check out Mitchell and Webb. Great stuff in the classic British sketch comedy vein.
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The Monty Python films are brilliant and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise.
The TV show on the other hand was more of a mixed bag. There are the brilliant sketches we all know and love, but for every good sketch there are 3 or 4 forgettable ones. Flying Circus still deserves all the respect in the world for being so groundbreaking. I can forgive them for being inconsistent whilst finding their feet.
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Monthy Python is really hit-and-miss for me. I loved the Holy Grail movie, most sketches not so much.
I much prefer Little Britain for sketches and 'Allo 'Allo, the Office and Keeping Up Appearances as comedy series. Those things only the English can make, as they are excellent.
Some American comedies are also good like Friends but the humour is very different.
The one country who cannot make good comedy series is actually Holland. It is just not fun, none of them are. I think it is because they don't include sex-scenes in the comedy series. Look at every Dutch directed film (or movie for you Americans); There is always sex in them. "We" cannot make movies without sex. This might cause the movies to sometimes be internationally succesfull, like Paul Verhoeven's movies
But back to topic; I think jokes regarding country are never annoying; I think they are great! Especially the French, jokes about the French are always good
LuciusAR wrote: The Monty Python films are brilliant and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise.
The TV show on the other hand was more of a mixed bag. There are the brilliant sketches we all know and love, but for every good sketch there are 3 or 4 forgettable ones. Flying Circus still deserves all the respect in the world for being so groundbreaking. I can forgive them for being inconsistent whilst finding their feet.
Put your dukes up then I'm not a fan either. Is just not my thing.
Us Brits do take a while to learn to drop the superiority thing.
Once we learn that we once ran the world, we get uppity when people who were once part of 'us' drift off and do their own thing.
Then we grow up, and just get grumpy. There was a mention of a quote about the F1 racing on the breakfast radio this morning, and they spent a while laughing about the word "winningest". We'd have said "most successful" or something, but any time a word gets messed about with that much, we tear it apart. 'Funning' is another, along with 'funnest'.
But, we're even worse to ourselves.
Just ask an Englishman about the Welsh...
As for Brit-to-US versions of TV programmes. I thought the point of Red Dwarf was that the guys in it were stuck millions of years from home, with no sign of women. Then, the US version has Kristine Kochanski from episode 1.
Monty Python is hit-and-miss. Either you go for that kind of thing, or it's just more of the Goons.
There are lots of better sketch shows, like Mitchell and Webb (bad guys), Goodness Gracious Me (going for an English), Manstrokewoman (manflu).
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As for Brit-to-US versions of TV programmes. I thought the point of Red Dwarf was that the guys in it were stuck millions of years from home, with no sign of women. Then, the US version has Kristine Kochanski from episode 1.
Monty Python is hit-and-miss. Either you go for that kind of thing, or it's just more of the Goons.
There are lots of better sketch shows, like Mitchell and Webb (bad guys), Goodness Gracious Me (going for an English), Manstrokewoman (manflu).
Which version of Red Dwarf are you talking about? Kochanski only came in in series 7 as a (bad) replacement for Rimmer, stayed for series 8 but was gone by Back To Earth, at least until the dream seuence at the end. Unless there was an American remake I'm blissfully unaware of.
I think Python has held up well enough, especially the stuff they're famous for. I defy anyone not to laugh at Biggus Dickus or The French Taunt, whether it's the first viewing or the 50th. They've had some duds, to be sure, but so did the Beatles and no one claims they haven't aged well. Python did to comedy (along with the Two Ronnies and the like) what the Beatles did for Rock music, and without them, we wouln't have the 'Mitchell and Webb's or 'Armstrong and Millers' of today.
Paradigm wrote: Which version of Red Dwarf are you talking about?.... Unless there was an American remake I'm blissfully unaware of.
Yeah, the US attempt.
I think Python has held up well enough, ....
They've had some duds, to be sure, ...
... without them, we wouldn't have the 'Mitchell and Webb's or 'Armstrong and Millers' of today.
That's true. There is some great Python stuff. But I have trouble sitting through a full Flying Circus.
"On the shoulders of giants", and all that.
Countries, like people, should be able to laugh at themselves.
Unless you're dissing Texas or wiener dogs, then its fightin words.
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Even something as simple as Dr. Who, I can't seem to make it through a single episode! Yet alone some of the other shows...
Indeed I hear 45 minutes can be along time for an Amurikan to go between meals*. BOOM! Slightly pisstaking and not a little unpleasant to be on the receiving end of: British humour at its best.
* I keeeeed, I keeeeed of course dear Tides.
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RiTides wrote: My wife loves British humor, the fact of which I find hilarious but the humor itself is completely lost on me
On the flipside, barring Monty Python and clones thereof, I love British comedy, but my wife can't watch it, because she can't understand a word of it (the accents and slang, I mean)
Has Misfits reached America yet? I'd love to know what you guys make of it. Its pretty crude humour but its hilarious!
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The Young Ones were great but a bit dated. I'll join in with those that dislike Monty Python. Just too dry humor for my taste. I liked the inbetweeners at first, but then it just became a constant stream of the same "your Dad's a bender" joke. Probably shouldn't binge watch it on Netflix though.
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