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Did you forget about the Thing that shall not be mentioned?? Or did you purposefully not mention that one?
Struck me as poor taste. I wasn't going to rub that in their faces.
OK...you guys gotta clue me in on this.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I hope your not talkin about Beiber. I love that kid!
Never heard his music. Don't even need too...
Ich bin ein Belieber!
Automatically Appended Next Post: For real though. In every civilization, if they're lucky, a beacon is brought into the world that changes everything.
The Romans had Caesar.
The Jews had Jesus.
The Indians had Ghandi.
And now, at long last, we have our Saviour from the North!
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jasper76 wrote: Wow...Television! I haven't though about them in a long, long time
I never much got into Sonic Youth, but the Ramones and the Clash are ace. As, of course, are the Fab Four.
"Sister" and "Daydream Nation" are the only albums that are really essential from Sonic Youth, there early albums are pretty much unlistenable unless you like an album that pretty much consists of slow droning noise that is occasionally accompanied by screeching.
WHAT!? Experimental Jet set, Trash and No Star is their best album by far! 'Winner's Blues' is brilliant, in particular. Check it out, you'll like it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I hope your not talkin about Beiber. I love that kid!
No man, no way. I wasn't talking about him. If we HAVE to bring it up, I was talking about... uh, well, I think we were either talking about Alanis Morissette or Avril Lavgine! Yeah, definitely one of those two. Not that guy, certainly not.
PastelAvenger wrote: I usually get one with most Americans when I cross the pond and people don't seem to have a problem with the British sense of humour, maybe the accent when I've had a few sherbets though.
What I don't understand is American TV stations have a knack of taking a successful British Comedy show and turn it into a lifeless piece of garbage yet it still runs for years (the Office I'm looking at you)
I do enjoy a good monocle though.....and cuppa.
To be fair, American TV networks can turn ANY kind of successful foreign TV show into lifeless garbage, just look at what they've done to those great Scandinavian crime dramas in recent years.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
Automatically Appended Next Post: I hope your not talkin about Beiber. I love that kid!
No man, no way. I wasn't talking about him. If we HAVE to bring it up, I was talking about... uh, well, I think we were either talking about Alanis Morissette or Avril Lavgine! Yeah, definitely one of those two. Not that guy, certainly not.
OK, I'll have to settle on being out of this insider joke.
In any case, Beiber is to modern western culture as Jesus was to the Ancient Roman Empire, I think we all can safely agree on that, and go back to discussing guilty pleasures, UK and US comedies, and the like.
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Southampton, Hampshire, England, British Isles, Europe, Earth, Sol, Sector 001
He is not a bad actor, he, he has just been in two of the worst films ever.
Most of his work is good with afew dimonds that just shine like the whole damn mine
Ribon Fox wrote: He is not a bad actor, he, he has just been in two of the worst films ever.
Most of his work is good with afew dimonds that just shine like the whole damn mine
Funny, I dont remember seeing him in "Lost in Translation" lol
I'm a bit in the bag right now painting Termagants (shoot me!) and watching the UK Office, and I have pinpointed why I like the US Office better than the UK Office: everyone in the UK Office is a total, irredeemable douche bag except the secretary, and everyone absolutely despises everyone else, except the secretary and Bilbo.
The US Office is much more optimistic, where people are annoyed by each other, but no one hates each other, and no one (as opposed to everyone) is a 100% douche bag with the possible exception of the Temp.
So the US Office is an inherently optimistic, uplifting show, and the UK Office is an inherently depressing show.
Is this the difference between the US vs UK worldview, or is it just one TV show vs. another TV show???
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jasper76 wrote: I'm a bit in the bag right now painting Termagants (shoot me!) and watching the UK Office, and I have pinpointed why I like the US Office better than the UK Office: everyone in the UK Office is a total, irredeemable douche bag except the secretary, and everyone absolutely despises everyone else, except the secretary and Bilbo.
The US Office is much more optimistic, where people are annoyed by each other, but no one hates each other, and no one (as opposed to everyone) is a 100% douche bag with the possible exception of the Temp.
So the US Office is an inherently optimistic, uplifting show, and the UK Office is an inherently depressing show.
Is this the difference between the US vs UK worldview, or is it just one TV show vs. another TV show???
IDK... Breaking Bad, SOA, Walking Dead, House of Cards. All populated by horrible, self serving people. I think it's just how writers are making characters these days.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
House of cards was a uk show first. And i rather liked the central character in the uk version, i thought he was frightfully charming and witty. Rather.
I'm the first to admit the superiority of British comedy over its American counterpart
But...
How come there's no Canada loving on this thread?
For years I was under the mistaken impression that John Candy, Dan Aykroyd and Leslie Neilsen were great American comedy actors!
It's nice to be proven wrong sometimes
But in tribute to America: you deserve credit for John Landis, early Eddie Murphy (and I mean early!!)
and my favourite, Blazing Saddles.
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jasper76 wrote: Fair enough...come to think of it, I am currently watching a BBC show with some pretty stalwart characters
What are you watching? British news?
Our newsreaders are a pretty stern bunch.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
The people you work with are people you were just thrown together with. I mean, you don't know them, it wasn't your choice. And yet you spend more time with them than you do your friends or your family. But probably all you have in common is the fact that you walk around on the same bit of carpet for eight hours a day.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I don't know...I try to get along and focus on the good things about most everyone I've worked with. I've probably only truly disliked 2 or 3 people in my worklife spanning ~25 years so far., even though there have been plenty that got on my nerves.
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Normally I prefer my comedy without a laugh track but I absolutely adore Fawlty Towers.
I think that anybody who has to interact with the public in any capacity can relate to this.
The Simpsons has to be my favourite American TV export. Certainly up until Phil Hartman died. They still have the very occasional good episode now but the classic seasons are so well written that they're infinitely rewatchable and quotable.
The vast array of support characters prevents the main cast from becoming stale. Skinner has to be one of my favourite characters.
I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to watch the old seasons and not love them.
Medium of Death wrote: Normally I prefer my comedy without a laugh track but I absolutely adore Fawlty Towers.
I think that anybody who has to interact with the public in any capacity can relate to this.
I think it is fairly common knowledge that Fawlty Towers is the absolute pinnacle of human achievement.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
jasper76 wrote: I'm a bit in the bag right now painting Termagants (shoot me!) and watching the UK Office, and I have pinpointed why I like the US Office better than the UK Office: everyone in the UK Office is a total, irredeemable douche bag except the secretary, and everyone absolutely despises everyone else, except the secretary and Bilbo.
The US Office is much more optimistic, where people are annoyed by each other, but no one hates each other, and no one (as opposed to everyone) is a 100% douche bag with the possible exception of the Temp.
So the US Office is an inherently optimistic, uplifting show, and the UK Office is an inherently depressing show.
Is this the difference between the US vs UK worldview, or is it just one TV show vs. another TV show???
Worldview, I think.
Being stuck in a cube farm is seen as a death sentence. Not a zenith. There's more bitchiness and politicking in Aussie and brit offices than in the US - and its of the more snide, character assassination type.
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
jasper76 wrote: I'm a bit in the bag right now painting Termagants (shoot me!) and watching the UK Office, and I have pinpointed why I like the US Office better than the UK Office: everyone in the UK Office is a total, irredeemable douche bag except the secretary, and everyone absolutely despises everyone else, except the secretary and Bilbo.
The US Office is much more optimistic, where people are annoyed by each other, but no one hates each other, and no one (as opposed to everyone) is a 100% douche bag with the possible exception of the Temp.
So the US Office is an inherently optimistic, uplifting show, and the UK Office is an inherently depressing show.
Is this the difference between the US vs UK worldview, or is it just one TV show vs. another TV show???
Worldview, I think.
Being stuck in a cube farm is seen as a death sentence. Not a zenith. There's more bitchiness and politicking in Aussie and brit offices than in the US - and its of the more snide, character assassination type.
Pretty much this; British workers stuck in a dead-end office job understand that their future consists of awkward Christmas parties, annoying/unreasonable bosses, petty coworkers, and if you're really unlucky customers *shudder*. For some reason American workers stuck in a dead-end office job still really believe, deep down in their soul, that one day they'll be running the company and lording it over the peons.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
Pretty much this; British workers stuck in a dead-end office job understand that their future consists of awkward Christmas parties, annoying/unreasonable bosses, petty coworkers, and if you're really unlucky customers *shudder*. For some reason American workers stuck in a dead-end office job still really believe, deep down in their soul, that one day they'll be running the company and lording it over the peons.
So this is an incorrect characterization of US workers at desk jobs in general. Plenty, perhaps most, people who work desk jobs have no aspirations whatsoever of achieving managerial or other executive positions, and are content to come to the office, do their job, and get paid for their work And in many skilled positions, workers make more money than their managers do.
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So this is an incorrect characterization of US workers at desk jobs in general. Plenty, perhaps most, people who work desk jobs have no aspirations whatsoever of achieving managerial or other executive positions, and are content to come to the office, do their job, and get paid for their work And in many skilled positions, workers make more money than their managers do.
For instance, over this past weekend, my mom was telling me how they (well really, her and one other person) had to come up with a new power point presentation a la "school house rock" on how a bill becomes a law, and how it affects their position as state workers (it's a new "manager" and apparently actually had no idea how State law making functioned ). And by affects them as state workers, she meant how things like budget allocation, special projects, etc. are passed onto their office.
Pretty much this; British workers stuck in a dead-end office job understand that their future consists of awkward Christmas parties, annoying/unreasonable bosses, petty coworkers, and if you're really unlucky customers *shudder*. For some reason American workers stuck in a dead-end office job still really believe, deep down in their soul, that one day they'll be running the company and lording it over the peons.
So this is an incorrect characterization of US workers at desk jobs in general. Plenty, perhaps most, people who work desk jobs have no aspirations whatsoever of achieving managerial or other executive positions, and are content to come to the office, do their job, and get paid for their work And in many skilled positions, workers make more money than their managers do.
Ehm... no they don't. The money-making bit, I mean. No line-worker in a cube-farm makes more money than anyone with the word "manager" in their job title. That's... simply not how corporations work.
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised.
Pretty much this; British workers stuck in a dead-end office job understand that their future consists of awkward Christmas parties, annoying/unreasonable bosses, petty coworkers, and if you're really unlucky customers *shudder*. For some reason American workers stuck in a dead-end office job still really believe, deep down in their soul, that one day they'll be running the company and lording it over the peons.
So this is an incorrect characterization of US workers at desk jobs in general. Plenty, perhaps most, people who work desk jobs have no aspirations whatsoever of achieving managerial or other executive positions, and are content to come to the office, do their job, and get paid for their work And in many skilled positions, workers make more money than their managers do.
Ehm... no they don't. The money-making bit, I mean. No line-worker in a cube-farm makes more money than anyone with the word "manager" in their job title. That's... simply not how corporations work.
I make more money than my manager. I have a cubicle (though I telework 2 days a week).
Perhaps I don't know what you mean by "line-worker". I work as an analyst. Am I a line worker? Other people where I work have the exact same job as me, so I guess so.
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Pretty much this; British workers stuck in a dead-end office job understand that their future consists of awkward Christmas parties, annoying/unreasonable bosses, petty coworkers, and if you're really unlucky customers *shudder*. For some reason American workers stuck in a dead-end office job still really believe, deep down in their soul, that one day they'll be running the company and lording it over the peons.
So this is an incorrect characterization of US workers at desk jobs in general. Plenty, perhaps most, people who work desk jobs have no aspirations whatsoever of achieving managerial or other executive positions, and are content to come to the office, do their job, and get paid for their work And in many skilled positions, workers make more money than their managers do.
I'm sorry, I thought dry humour about the difference between Brits and Americans in a thread specifically about British humour filled with American posters discussing said humour would land, evidently I was incorrect.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
For me if its funny I will watch it don't care who it is.
Favourate US comics has to be Rich Hall and Chris Rock they both have me in stitches.
On the flip side of that I really can't stand Ricky Gervais he really winds me up.
Oh and the whole US/UK history thing, you guys always forget one thing.....if it wasn't for our ancestors you guys would be talking French So I think we are even.
Oh and the whole US/UK history thing, you guys always forget one thing.....if it wasn't for our ancestors you guys would be talking French So I think we are even.
And if it weren't for us, you'd be speaking German
feeder wrote: Frazz's mind is like a wiener dog in a rabbit warren. Dark, twisting tunnels, and full of the certainty that just around the next bend will be the quarry he seeks.