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Hey dakka.

I recently finally got to start Warmachine! Some of the most fun I have had in a very very long time. I started Cryx with the battlebox and was thinking of extending it to this list. Please go easy! I am very new.

Warwitch Deneghra
Skarlock Thrall
Defiler
Deathripper x2
Malice
Satyxis Raiders x9 w/ leader
Bane Thralls x5 w/ leader and officer w/standard

Please please please critique! I want to be careful with my purchases....

Ok, a couple of suggestions.

Your loadout is a bit all over the place. I know you're starting from the battlebox, which gives you more nodes than you really need.

Denny really doesn't like to run more than two nodes for jacks. She can, but primarily she likes to cast and upkeep all the super nasty debuffs she has. That makes powering jacks difficult. Malice is cool, but kind of cornercase. If you wanted a character jack, Nightmare or Deathjack are better choices.

The skarlock is good, but I'd also consider a Warwitch siren. Great solo, and can save Denny focus by giving one to a jack.

I love me some Satyxis, but you'll want to get the Sea Witch unit attachment as well. The unit gets pathfinder and extra range protection and the mini feat (one time ability) really spikes damage.

Banes are good, but you might as well buy the plastic ones that come with a full unit. And the additional UA is good as well.

Finally, the Satyxis raider captain, and bane Lord Tarterus are also good solos for eventually. The captain is pretty good for combat, and can give the raiders an extra 2" of movement. Tarterus is a beast, his curse can make the banes more effective and if he kills living models he can make more banes.

Hope that helps, let us know if you have more questions.

 novaspike wrote:
Ok, a couple of suggestions.

Your loadout is a bit all over the place. I know you're starting from the battlebox, which gives you more nodes than you really need.

Denny really doesn't like to run more than two nodes for jacks. She can, but primarily she likes to cast and upkeep all the super nasty debuffs she has. That makes powering jacks difficult. Malice is cool, but kind of cornercase. If you wanted a character jack, Nightmare or Deathjack are better choices.

The skarlock is good, but I'd also consider a Warwitch siren. Great solo, and can save Denny focus by giving one to a jack.

I love me some Satyxis, but you'll want to get the Sea Witch unit attachment as well. The unit gets pathfinder and extra range protection and the mini feat (one time ability) really spikes damage.

Banes are good, but you might as well buy the plastic ones that come with a full unit. And the additional UA is good as well.

Finally, the Satyxis raider captain, and bane Lord Tarterus are also good solos for eventually. The captain is pretty good for combat, and can give the raiders an extra 2" of movement. Tarterus is a beast, his curse can make the banes more effective and if he kills living models he can make more banes.

Hope that helps, let us know if you have more questions.

Thanks for the info! I was considering the Warwitch siren actually as well as the sea witch and a bigger unit of banes with UA but all of those jacks from the battlebox ended up in the list. Are the units together a good composition over all or is it too all over the place to actually work? Coming from warhammer i'm trying to purge the 1HQ 2 troops thought process from my head....

Gotta ask first, if it's from the battlebox, it's a Slayer helljack and not Malice right? Two claws vs a harpoon and a claw?

With everything you have and want, you can make a list. Sort of a cool thing, list composition isn't as crazy as 40k, and pDenny is considered the ultimate turd polisher (she can make anything work). That being said, you can tweak things a bit.

For a 35 point list with what you listed, I'd aim for:

pDenny
-skarlock thrall
-slayer
-deathripper
-defiler
Warwitch Siren
Bane thralls, full (aka leader and 9 grunts)
-bane thrall UA
Satyxis Raiders, full (same, leader + 9)
-raiders UA

Denny doesn't really need/want a heavy (aka the Slayer), but there's no reason not to use it if you've got it. With that many jacks I would definitely want a warwitch siren though.

The raiders can run forward to jam and engage early, or flank. Between Denny's feat, crippling grasp, and parasite, everything can hit like a truck (and accurately too). Thralls already hit hard, but have MAT issues, but as mentioned, she has the tools to make that not a problem.

All that stuff is good for other lists too, so I wouldn't regret any purchases. Most likely the Slayer and one of the nodes won't see regular play, but there are uses for them.

Hope that helps.

 novaspike wrote:
Gotta ask first, if it's from the battlebox, it's a Slayer helljack and not Malice right? Two claws vs a harpoon and a claw?

With everything you have and want, you can make a list. Sort of a cool thing, list composition isn't as crazy as 40k, and pDenny is considered the ultimate turd polisher (she can make anything work). That being said, you can tweak things a bit.

For a 35 point list with what you listed, I'd aim for:

pDenny
-skarlock thrall
-slayer
-deathripper
-defiler
Warwitch Siren
Bane thralls, full (aka leader and 9 grunts)
-bane thrall UA
Satyxis Raiders, full (same, leader + 9)
-raiders UA

Denny doesn't really need/want a heavy (aka the Slayer), but there's no reason not to use it if you've got it. With that many jacks I would definitely want a warwitch siren though.

The raiders can run forward to jam and engage early, or flank. Between Denny's feat, crippling grasp, and parasite, everything can hit like a truck (and accurately too). Thralls already hit hard, but have MAT issues, but as mentioned, she has the tools to make that not a problem.

All that stuff is good for other lists too, so I wouldn't regret any purchases. Most likely the Slayer and one of the nodes won't see regular play, but there are uses for them.

Hope that helps.

Helps a lot. Thanks for the responses! And yeah I was gonna add a character jack to replace slayer but I think slayer is fine for now

Thanks a lot I am basically in the same boat as OP here and this helped a lot.