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We can see from this discussion that saying "white" and "Whitey McWhiteBoy" are actually not equivalent. In the relevant context, the word "white" just describes the character's race. "Whitey McWhiteBoy" is more than a description; it is an implicit argument about the role of race in creating bland video game protagonists, the same way that "Attitude Brown" is an argument about the role of race in writing and casting parts for black people. There are white characters to whom the term "Whitey McWhiteBoy" does not apply.

 Manchu wrote:
Please explain why.

Explain why Blackey McBlackboy is racist?

 Frazzled wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Please explain why.

Explain why Blackey McBlackboy is racist?

Yes please.

 Manchu wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Please explain why.

Explain why Blackey McBlackboy is racist?

Yes please.

explain why "Black boy" is racist? Thats a classic racist phrase against black men. I don't know about in the North but in Old South, it was a standard derogatory term.

 Frazzled wrote:
explain why "Black boy" is racist? Thats a classic racist phrase against black men. I don't know about in the North but in Old South, it was a standard derogatory term.

So it is a term tied to a long history of racist prejudice against and marginalization of black people?

 Manchu wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
explain why "Black boy" is racist? Thats a classic racist phrase against black men. I don't know about in the North but in Old South, it was a standard derogatory term.

So it is a term tied to a long history of racist prejudice against and marginalization of black people?

A long history on both sides. The term was/is also used by blacks against whites, often prior to a physical attack.

 Frazzled wrote:
A long history on both sides.

Can you tell me more about the long history of racial prejudice against and marginalization of white people in this country?

 Manchu wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
A long history on both sides.

Can you tell me more about the long history of racial prejudice against and marginalization of white people in this country?

I'm impressed by your attempted Aikido wrist spin, but I reply with Kirk Toss!

 Frazzled wrote:
I'm impressed by your attempted Aikido wrist spin, but I reply with Kirk Toss!

No, as usual, you reply with whimsical spam (although surprisingly not about dachshunds in this case). Your argument is that (1) "Whitey McWhiteBoy" is equivalent to "Blacky McBlackBoy" and (2) the latter is racist because "black boy" evokes a long history of racism against black people in this country. Argument (2) actually disproved argument (1).

 Manchu wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
A long history on both sides.

Can you tell me more about the long history of racial prejudice against and marginalization of white people in this country?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

 Ghaz wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
A long history on both sides.

Can you tell me more about the long history of racial prejudice against and marginalization of white people in this country?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

Ummm, that doesn't really work. It's not because they are white.



Also, wasn't blackey an old racial slur?

 Ghaz wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

Ask yourself who was marginializing the Irish and then ask yourself if that is an example of prejudice against people because they are white.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Also, wasn't blackey an old racial slur?

Yes.

 Manchu wrote:

 Aesop the God Awful wrote:

 Casey's Law wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
In any case, I think "Attitude Brown" is a good example of a phrase that points out race as an issue without being racist.

As is "Whitey McWhiteboy".

I'm gonna disagree with that. I don't think Whitey McWhiteboy is a good term at all. It doesn't describe the character in the same way as "Attitude Brown" does, so in that case you're better off just saying "white".

The phrase in question was Scruffy McWhiteboy (or something), which is a good way of describing a common video game/film/TV series protagonist.

We can see from this discussion that saying "white" and "Whitey McWhiteBoy" are actually not equivalent. In the relevant context, the word "white" just describes the character's race. "Whitey McWhiteBoy" is more than a description; it is an implicit argument about the role of race in creating bland video game protagonists, the same way that "Attitude Brown" is an argument about the role of race in writing and casting parts for black people. There are white characters to whom the term "Whitey McWhiteBoy" does not apply.

I actually can't add anything to that. Probably better than I would have put it today.

 Manchu wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
I'm impressed by your attempted Aikido wrist spin, but I reply with Kirk Toss!

No, as usual, you reply with whimsical spam (although surprisingly not about dachshunds in this case). Your argument is that (1) "Whitey McWhiteBoy" is equivalent to "Blacky McBlackBoy" and (2) the latter is racist because "black boy" evokes a long history of racism against black people in this country. Argument (2) actually disproved argument (1).

Actually thats not my argument.

Here's my argument (Kirk Toss!)
*BlackMcBlackboy is racist or at least insenstiive due to its similarity to a racist perjorative.
*WhiteyMcWhiteboy is racist or at least insensitive due to its similarity to a recist perjorative.
Neither have a place on Dakka.

 Frazzled wrote:
WhiteyMcWhiteboy is racist or at least insensitive due to its similarity to a recist perjorative.

What racist pejorative?

Whitey
Whiteboy

Frankly if a term is insensitive towards any group of people it shouldn't be on Dakka regardless.

 Frazzled wrote:
Whitey
Whiteboy

Can you explain to me why you think these terms are racist?

 Frazzled wrote:
Frankly if a term is insensitive towards any group of people it shouldn't be on Dakka regardless.

I disagree because "insensitive" could mean anything all the way down to "I don't like it." "Insensitivity" is certainly not the same thing as racism.

Can you explain why you think Blackey and McBlackey is racist or insensitive.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/codi-bott/2014/07/racism-against-white-people-exists/

White people aren't the only people who can be racists. Anyone who hates someone because of a 'biological difference' (their skin color, nationality, religion, etc.) is racist.

Racism against white people simply is widely accepted or not looked into.

"Everybody's a little bit racist."

 Ghaz wrote:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/codi-bott/2014/07/racism-against-white-people-exists/

White people aren't the only people who can be racists. Anyone who hates someone because of their skin color, nationality or religion is racist.

People aren't saying racism against whites doesn't exist. It's about whether or not a specific term should/could/would be considered racist.

If it isn't already then this starting to turn into a brilliant popcorn thread.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
"Everybody's a little bit racist."

That is true and it makes sense. People always look for self-affirmation and race is one example for a group you identify with. By over-identifying (and racism is one form of it), you increase your self-affirmation.

 Casey's Law wrote:
If it isn't already then this starting to turn into a brilliant popcorn thread.

That's racist.

 Aesop the God Awful wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/codi-bott/2014/07/racism-against-white-people-exists/

White people aren't the only people who can be racists. Anyone who hates someone because of their skin color, nationality or religion is racist.

People aren't saying racism against whites doesn't exist. It's about whether or not a specific term should/could/would be considered racist.

http://www.rsdb.org/race/whites

Did anyone else spot Whitey?

 Sigvatr wrote:
Did anyone else spot Whitey?

http://www.rsdb.org/slur/whitey

Yeah...I was kinda pointing out that it is on the list indeed

 Sigvatr wrote:
Yeah...I was kinda pointing out that it is on the list indeed

Just for the sight-impaired

 Frazzled wrote:
Can you explain why you think Blackey and McBlackey is racist or insensitive.

Because they evoke (including by being a part of) a long history of racist prejudice against and marginalization of black people.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Racism against white people simply is widely accepted or not looked into.

I'/m not sure if racism against white people is "widely accepted or not looked into" but I am sure that in the USA racism against white people is ineffective.