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I kinda doubt that rumor.. I can't see a reason for it to be true. Either way I will never re-base my models.

I'm doing elaborate bases for all my newer miniatures, drilling and pinning them to resin bases (40K), slate, milliput cobblestone (LOTR)...I'm using Army Painter grass tufts, flower tufts, barbed wire...No fething way am I switching base sizes.

This might sense for larger models like Terminators, Centurions, Tyranid Warriors and Obliterators, but not man sized models.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I'm doing elaborate bases for all my newer miniatures, drilling and pinning them to resin bases (40K), slate, milliput cobblestone (LOTR)...I'm using Army Painter grass tufts, flower tufts, barbed wire...No fething way am I switching base sizes.

This might sense for larger models like Terminators, Centurions, Tyranid Warriors and Obliterators, but not man sized models.

And that rumor is probably false, so don't worry.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
If this turns out to be true then I want to be on record predicting GW will soon switch all their games from inches to cubits and sell proprietary cubit rulers and tape measures.

I'm pretty sure measurements in future GW products will be in "grims".

Oh come on, "Skulls" surely?!

With blast markers now measured in "Skulls Squared"

Hehehe... this thread is funny and painful all in one!
1) If it is a groundless rumor it certainly makes you think for a minute and feel that flash of anger as you think back on all your models.
2) If it is true, rage-quit may not quite happen but a pointed ignoring them may be the result (GW, you sorry you do not hold tournaments to enforce this now??).
3) Some crazy people may stoically start swapping bases, looking at it as an opportunity to touch-up their models and make them better.
4) The horde army people will look at GW with a crazed look in their eye and say "too bloody bad" and none of us will comment if we know what is good for us.
So yeah, no freak-out or drama really in the cards I figure.

Perhaps I missed it, but are folks forgetting the long-held and not-likely-to-change GW rule that you can use whatever base the model was sold with.

I have my doubts about the rumor, but even if it happens, there's no re-basing that will be necessary unless someone wants to.

 Eilif wrote:
Perhaps I missed it, but are folks forgetting the long-held and not-likely-to-change GW rule that you can use whatever base the model was sold with.

I have my doubts about the rumor, but even if it happens, there's no re-basing that will be necessary unless someone wants to.

ya, i see old termies on lil bases all the time

Since when has the standard not been bases it came with or current base size? Closest of an issue I've seen is square base demons and baby termies on 25mm. People seem to be making an issue of nothing.

Okay, it seems to be true; new BA Tacticals are on bigger bases.

Seems like it:



Maybe a hint to some form of lesser "bulky" rule in the future?

Glad I don't play Blood Angels then.

Anyone else have a problem with the Sgt's Aquila periscope?

Looks like Smaug the Golden is in there too...

Oh... delicious. So very delicious- More room for scenic basing for all the future Tacticals I guess.

If they're true scale, I'll forgive GW's transgression in using a new base.

Not holding my breath though.

Well, I was really wrong about this!

So, it seems all marines are represented by the 32mm bases (with terminators on the 40mm obviously). It doesn't appear that the genestealers are so is this going to be something like a marine-specific change to create more contract between them and punier humans?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
If they're true scale, I'll forgive GW's transgression in using a new base.

Not holding my breath though.

I think a number of designers have gone on record saying that the current marines are true scale. I just wish their descriptions in the fluff and models were at least consistent!

That picture reminds me of just how much I hate the greco-bowl-cut hairdo they chose for the Blood Angel helmet-less miniatures.

If Marines alone are getting new bases and being scaled up a bit, that's not a bad thing as far as game continuity is concerned. Old timers figures will feel a bit puny, but that's kind of always been the case. It would be fitting for marines to finally be bigger than the average Guardsman.

 Accolade wrote:

I think a number of designers have gone on record saying that the current marines are true scale. I just wish their descriptions in the fluff and models were at least consistent!

Do you mean the upcoming marines or the current line? Because either the Marines are true scale or the Imperial Guard are true scale. When you figure in power armor and such they're the same size so both can't be true.

This is of course setting asside the fact that GW hasn't made an imperial miniature with "True Scale" proportions (true height maybe, but not true-scale) in a couple of decades now.

I meant the current line of Space Marines. I know it doesn't make sense, and you're right that IG end up being the same height (though I keep hearing when Marines aren't in a "crapping" position they are a bit taller)... I think it just comes down to the fact that the regular humans GW produces are grossly out of scale- FW does a much better job. I suppose the switch to 32mm bases specifically for just Marines would help drive home the "superhuman" concept a bit more.

If this is true and its compulsory for play I think that will be it for me and 40k, I dont really feel like changing my orks or tyranids from one base to another, granted I could start a new army.

If it's not compulsory there is no fething way that I'll be changing anything.

On another not those Blood Angels there do seem thinner and taller, but I doubt they would true scale it.

 Accolade wrote:
I meant the current line of Space Marines. I know it doesn't make sense, and you're right that IG end up being the same height (though I keep hearing when Marines aren't in a "crapping" position they are a bit taller)... I think it just comes down to the fact that the regular humans GW produces are grossly out of scale- FW does a much better job. I suppose the switch to 32mm bases specifically for just Marines would help drive home the "superhuman" concept a bit more.

I see.

The GW line about the crapping position is just something they say to distract from the fact that back in '99 or so they made their Plastic Catachans too tall and almost every IG release since then has been of a similar height to the Catachans. Having the marines straighten up might add a smidge to their height, but not much and certainly not enough to put them in proper proportion to IG figures. Most IG are in leaning positions too.

I'll be the first to kick GW around for the inevitable price raise that will accompany true-height marines, but I have to admit that it would be an appropriate resize.

 Eilif wrote:

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 Accolade wrote:
I meant the current line of Space Marines. I know it doesn't make sense, and you're right that IG end up being the same height (though I keep hearing when Marines aren't in a "crapping" position they are a bit taller)... I think it just comes down to the fact that the regular humans GW produces are grossly out of scale- FW does a much better job. I suppose the switch to 32mm bases specifically for just Marines would help drive home the "superhuman" concept a bit more.

I see.

The GW line about the crapping position is just something they say to distract from the fact that back in '99 or so they made their Plastic Catachans too tall and almost every IG release since then has been of a similar height to the Catachans. Having the marines straighten up might add a smidge to their height, but not much and certainly not enough to put them in proper proportion to IG figures. Most IG are in leaning positions too.

I'll be the first to kick GW around for the inevitable price raise that will accompany true-height marines, but I have to admit that it would be an appropriate resize.

You're right about the re-positioning of the legs, it doesn't do a whole ton. The "good news" for GW is most of their IG troop line is pretty bad and out-of-date, so they have the opportunity to shrink down any new IG troop kits if they're working on a re-sizing of of the game (via 32mm bases), and at least they would be consistent with Forgeworld.

 Accolade wrote:
Well, I was really wrong about this!

So, it seems all marines are represented by the 32mm bases (with terminators on the 40mm obviously). It doesn't appear that the genestealers are so is this going to be something like a marine-specific change to create more contract between them and punier humans?

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
If they're true scale, I'll forgive GW's transgression in using a new base.

Not holding my breath though.

I think a number of designers have gone on record saying that the current marines are true scale. I just wish their descriptions in the fluff and models were at least consistent!

Then the Imperial Guard range is oversized.

Right, what we were talking about in the previous posts.

Forgeworld has the gist of it pretty well with their scale of IG.

 Accolade wrote:
Right, what we were talking about in the previous posts.

Forgeworld has the gist of it pretty well with their scale of IG.

Heh, nevermind then. Didn't read the rest of the comments, got to your comment and immediately replied.

Personally I am good with a 30mm/32mm base. My group has been doing that for a decade now mostly to keep the metal ones from falling over.

So I guess combining the new tax squad preview with Deathstorm we know that marines are moving to 32mm.
Gene stealers still being on 25mm suggests it's not a new normal base size for most infantry.

Hmm...40 conscripts, 60 guardsmen, 40 veteran guardsmen, several command/platoon squads and psykers/priests/commissars... Yeah... No.. I'll stick to the 25mm bases.

 Zewrath wrote:
Hmm...40 conscripts, 60 guardsmen, 40 veteran guardsmen, several command/platoon squads and psykers/priests/commissars... Yeah... No.. I'll stick to the 25mm bases.

It looks to only be Marines so I would not worry about it.

I wounder if a 25mm vs. 32mm base will become something like the 20mm vs. 25mm split in fantesy.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

Then the Imperial Guard range is oversized.

That would have the interesting result that GW is still making 25mm scale models! With a 7 foot marine being 28-29mm to-the-eye, a human would be around 25mm to the eye. And since millimeter scales are based on the height to the eye of an average sized man….

Interesting that only Marines get better protection from blast templates.