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Herzlos wrote:

That thing on the right of the base is likely to be Bilbo. Not that it helps with scale too much, but it's big.

That actually just makes it around 4-5" to the shoulder. 'Big' compared to WHFB dragons, but not particularly big.

Howe about this then?

Herzlos wrote:


I hope they do drop the LOTR entirely, so that someone else can pick up the franchise and do it properly. That would be amazing.

Only if they also picked up the existing miniature line, but I can't see GW selling it to anyone else.

I have to say, from that one pic, I'm a little underwhelmed. The pose is far less dynamic than I was expecting, basically a straight line from head to tail; I was hoping for/expecting something curled round or rearing up, more like the Weta one from a few weeks back.

I'll reserve full judgement until I've seen if of it, but at this point I'm not overly irate that there is no way I can afford this.

Unfortunately, I expect this Hobbit supplement in WD next week to really be the last rules support for The Hobbit (not a huge issue as the rules are fine and complete as they are), and we won't see any releases after Feb next year at the latest. While there's not really a lot more they can add to the line, I hope it remains on sale for a good while longer; it will be a shame when the system finally goes.

But then, there never was much hope. Only a fool's hope...

Hmm.... I remember the last time they did a Smaug model - with the Warmaster-scale Battle of Five Armies.

That was an awesome model - in mid-swoop, essentially balanced on a wingtip, cutting through flames.

 LuciusAR wrote:

Herzlos wrote:


I hope they do drop the LOTR entirely, so that someone else can pick up the franchise and do it properly. That would be amazing.

Only if they also picked up the existing miniature line, but I can't see GW selling it to anyone else.

Other companies are capable of producing miniatures, you know?

 insaniak wrote:

Herzlos wrote:

That thing on the right of the base is likely to be Bilbo. Not that it helps with scale too much, but it's big.

That actually just makes it around 4-5" to the shoulder. 'Big' compared to WHFB dragons, but not particularly big.

I get closer to 8" at the shoulder comparing the photo to the hobbits I have on my shelf.
I think the model looks fantastic. Easilly worth the same amount as a similar sized model, like a Baneblade or Stompa for example. I'd even pay a premium for the licence. Pity GW is rumoured to be charging 3 times that much for him though.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:


Other companies are capable of producing miniatures, you know?

But it's specifically the GW range of minis that I want to remain available.

 LuciusAR wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:


Other companies are capable of producing miniatures, you know?

But it's specifically the GW range of minis that I want to remain available.

Agreed. While there are companies I am sure could do the licence justice, such as Knight Models, Red Box Games or even CB in terms of sculpt quality, the vast majority of the GW range, particularly the LotR stuff, is pretty much perfect. Outstanding attention to detail, great sculpting, they weren't just miniatures, they we're everything that made the movies great, but in 28mm. I'd go so far as to say that the LotR line is possibly the best GW produced. Maybe not as technical as the 40k or WFB stuff, or as varied, but taken as they are, pretty much perfect.

 Paradigm wrote:
I have to say, from that one pic, I'm a little underwhelmed.

This appears, at this stage, to be the general consensus.

I'm very disappointed - I was thrilled to hear GW were doing a Smaug, then stunned to hear the price tag, and then "WTF?" at the photo...

What else was everyone expecting?


It's a plastic model...

And for that, it looks amazing.

And fricking huge!!

It's a resin model that costs $490.

It's a finecast model.

Anyone have any idea who the sculptor is? Or will we have to wait 'til that WD is out?

StarFyre wrote:I can't stand the carmine dragon. think it looks pathetic for a dragon IMHO

Blimey. I thought I was the only one.

Padre wrote:(That's a compliment, by the way. I mention NQ because it's full of b****y crocs...)

I once went to Queensland because it was full of crocs.

Azreal13 wrote:He's a big boy, no doubt, but this pic...

seems to show him on a 100mm base

Nah, if you line up the four maggots on 25mm bases, they don't quite reach far enough to match.

Daemonslave wrote:The base is actually three CD's glued together, which is 120mm.

Ah, well. There you are.

angelofvengeance wrote:There's guaranteed to be some uber Tolkien nerd who wants this lol.

As an uber Tolkien nerd... kinda. But not at that price, and maybe not with PJ's slabber all over it.

Oh, and Cang looks like a dude wearing an iguana mask.

Official pricing here courtesy of LutherMax

Jesus, seeing the amount written out like that is quite the shock

You could start a new 40k army for that price, and be reasonably well off. That's ridiculous.

If not gold then is it solid plastic or something?

im not seeing the value here.

At that price and size i could go rescue a corgi or something. (and feed it for like a year)

Well, so far all I know is that it's impossible to fething make out anything from that bloody awful photo.

What, the feth, is wrong with GW? Every single time, these pics get leaked before the official ones, and every single time the initial impact is disappointing because you are having to view from a shaky hand-held camera phone shot that was taken in the Polish printer's toilet.

"Oh well it shouldn't get leaked, we need to build a fortress moat" or whatever else other crap they come out with, doesn't make a scrap of difference. Do they realise how much damage it is doing to their new launches, that the first we see of anything is equivalent of looking through a fish aquarium from 20 yards?

It really, really angers me... OK sorry about that, rant over!

Better than some of the leak photos you see on here Pacific! lol.

I swear the quality assurance and proofreading of WD keeps deteriorating...

I mean, look at that typo...

AU$550 for Smaug the underwhelming?

Got to be a typo, right? Right?

Perhaps that's how it all started?

"You fools! You've confused the $ price as the £ price and now all the prices are about 50% higher than they should be!"

"But sir.....they're buying them anyway!"

"Carry on!"

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Howe about this then?

Spoiler:

Wow, that's awesome! Unfortunately only a run of 300 in resin though, and sold out...

https://www.wetanz.com/smaug-the-golden-faux-bronze/

 RiTides wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Howe about this then?

Spoiler:

Wow, that's awesome! Unfortunately only a run of 300 in resin though, and sold out...

https://www.wetanz.com/smaug-the-golden-faux-bronze/

For $200 more you could get this...

https://www.wetanz.com/smaug-the-terrible
41lbs of 1/72 scale polystone!

Wowzers. I was hoping it'd really have been £135, which I could have stomached with a 20% discount. But £295 (I'm reading that correctly aren't I?) direct only is a no go.


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Antonio13 wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

Herzlos wrote:

That thing on the right of the base is likely to be Bilbo. Not that it helps with scale too much, but it's big.

That actually just makes it around 4-5" to the shoulder. 'Big' compared to WHFB dragons, but not particularly big.

I get closer to 8" at the shoulder comparing the photo to the hobbits I have on my shelf.
I think the model looks fantastic. Easilly worth the same amount as a similar sized model, like a Baneblade or Stompa for example. I'd even pay a premium for the licence. Pity GW is rumoured to be charging 3 times that much for him though.

What height do you make Bilbo to be?

It looks like about 5 Bilbo's to the shoulder, and I'd assumed he was only about an inch tall (being a hobbit in a 25mm human game)

Alabaster.clown wrote:

For $200 more you could get this...

Spoiler:

https://www.wetanz.com/smaug-the-terrible
41lbs of 1/72 scale polystone!

Yeah except that (to me at least) is not worth the price tag they've given it. GW's actually looks better than that..

@RiTides: If you wanted that in ACTUAL bronze, the price goes WAY UP to £3,754.37/US$5,900.00/€4,468.00 (and if you're a New Zealander you really get your pants pulled down at NZ$7,064.00) apparently cause it's a made to order item!

As someone who read the book I'd say the wetanz sculpt looks better. As far as dragon designs go, I'm sure something even better is out there somewhere, but as far as buying the thing for its sentimental value, of course I'm going to go with the original. I should really read The Hobbit again...

 Quarterdime wrote:
As someone who read the book I'd say the wetanz sculpt looks better. As far as dragon designs go, I'm sure something even better is out there somewhere, but as far as buying the thing for its sentimental value, of course I'm going to go with the original. I should really read The Hobbit again...

As someone who read the book and has seen Tolkien's illustrations, I can tell you that WETA's Harry-Potter-4-style "bat-dragon" with wings attached to the forelegs isn't terribly true to the book. Also, still no talking Wargs making fun of Orks

Wonderwolf wrote:

 Quarterdime wrote:
As someone who read the book I'd say the wetanz sculpt looks better. As far as dragon designs go, I'm sure something even better is out there somewhere, but as far as buying the thing for its sentimental value, of course I'm going to go with the original. I should really read The Hobbit again...

As someone who read the book and has seen Tolkien's illustrations, I can tell you that WETA's Harry-Potter-4-style "bat-dragon" with wings attached to the forelegs isn't terribly true to the book. Also, still no talking Wargs making fun of Orks

That doesn't sound anything like this

 Quarterdime wrote:

Wonderwolf wrote:

 Quarterdime wrote:
As someone who read the book I'd say the wetanz sculpt looks better. As far as dragon designs go, I'm sure something even better is out there somewhere, but as far as buying the thing for its sentimental value, of course I'm going to go with the original. I should really read The Hobbit again...

As someone who read the book and has seen Tolkien's illustrations, I can tell you that WETA's Harry-Potter-4-style "bat-dragon" with wings attached to the forelegs isn't terribly true to the book. Also, still no talking Wargs making fun of Orks

That doesn't sound anything like this

Spoiler: