20 questions liberals can't answer(Apparently)

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**hotsauceman1**

I have no answer because these are nothing but loade questions and used by people who made up their mind that they cant be answered
#7 is hilarious, equating things like CEO pay raises, Criminal labor costs and other things to removing them from the country, despite the fact THEIR STUFF IS STILL SOLD HERE
http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/20-questions-liberals-cant-answer/
All I can say is I know that this was written by a young conservative with no idea what he is talking about. Number 3 is even more head scratching.

1) A few days ago, we were hearing that the Boston Marathon bombers COULD BE conservative, which proved that the Right is evil. Now, when we know that the terrorists are Muslims, how can the same liberals be saying that it means nothing?

2) If you believe we have a “right” to things like health care, food, shelter and a good education, then doesn’t that also mean you believe we also have a right to force other people to unwillingly provide those things at gunpoint?

3) How can you simultaneously want a big government that will make decisions that have an enormous impact on the lives of every American while also saying that the character and morals of our politicians don’t matter?

4) What exactly is the “fair share” of someone’s income that he’s earned that he should be able to keep?

5) Why is it that time and time again, revenue paid to the treasury has GONE UP after we’ve cut taxes?

6) Are you pro-choice or pro-abortion? If it’s pro-choice, do you feel people should be able to choose to have an assault weapon, what kind of light bulb they use in their house or whether they’d like to put their Social Security funds into a private retirement account?

7) If corporations are so awful, greedy and bad for the country, then shouldn’t we be celebrating when they decide to close their plants here and move overseas?

8) How can liberal economists like Paul Krugman be right when they claim that our economy isn’t doing well because we aren’t spending enough money when we’re already running massive, unsustainable deficits and spending is going up every year?

9) If Republicans don’t care about the poor,: why do studies consistently show that they give more to charity than Democrats do?

10) Give us a ballpark estimate: If something doesn’t change dramatically, how long do you think it will be until we have an economic crash in this country similar to the one we’re seeing in Greece or Cyprus?

11) Since we “all agree” with the idea that our level of deficit spending is “unsustainable,” what would be wrong with permanently freezing federal spending at the current level until we balance the budget by increasing revenue, cutting spending or some combination thereof?

12) If we change God’s definition of marriage to make gay marriage legal, then what’s the logical argument against polygamy or even adult siblings supposed to be?

13) In a world where people can easily change states and can, with a bit more difficulty, permanently move to other roughly comparable parts of the globe, do you really think it’s feasible over the long haul to have a tax system where 86% of the income taxes are paid by the top 25% of the income earners?

14) If you win a lawsuit that’s filed against you, why should you have to pay huge legal bills when you did nothing wrong while the person who filed the suit pays no penalty for wrongly accusing you?

15) How can you oppose putting murderers to death and be fine with killing innocent children via abortion?

16) A minimum wage raises salaries for some workers at the cost of putting other workers out of jobs entirely. What’s the acceptable ratio for that? For every 10 people who get a higher salary, how many are you willing to see lose their jobs?

17) The earth has been warming and cooling for thousands of years with temperature drops and increases that are much larger than the ones we’ve seen over the last century. Since we can’t adequately explain or model those changes, what makes us think we can say with any sort of confidence that global warming is being caused by man?

18) We live in a world where people have more choices than ever before in music, entertainment, careers, news sources and what to do with their time. Shouldn’t government mirror that trend by moving towards federalism and states’ rights instead of centralizing more and more power in Washington, DC?

19) If people in the middle class aren’t willing to pay enough in taxes to cover the government services that they use because they don’t think it’s worth the money, shouldn’t we prune back government to a level people do feel comfortable paying for in taxes?

20) If firms can get by with paying women 72 cents on the dollar for the same quality of work as men, then why don’t we see any firms with all female labor forces using those lower costs to dominate the marketplace?

**Verviedi**

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**motyak**

I'm going to get a warning in early with a thread like this, before the discussion starts. Keep it clean or else warnings will fly and the thread will get locked up.

**hotsauceman1**

I agree, lets keep it civil.

**Verviedi**

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**trexmeyer**

Verviedi wrote:
You're on the Internet. Prepare for the left wing to descend upon you and call you a bigot fascist nazi capitalist.
Duck and cover, for there is no help here.

You made extremely good points (such as 15), but people are going to scream at you for using "strawmans" and being "regressive reactionary oppressor".

Oh wait. You're one of them too. You're one of them! You're one of them! Nooooo!

Actually Hotsauceman1 disagrees with all of the points the young conservative is trying to bring up. Oh wait, you already noticed that.

FYI Hotsauce, Conservatives actually do give more to charities than Liberals/Democrats/Leftists/etc by a wide margin.

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motyak wrote:
I'm going to get a warning in early with a thread like this, before the discussion starts. Keep it clean or else warnings will fly and the thread will get locked up.

I really doubt this thread will make it more than two pages. Vocal posters here are largely left leaning. This is going to turn into another conservative bashing thread like all of them already do.

**daddyorchips**

i must say that i'm not a liberal. i'm a revolutionary communist. but it wouldn't matter - those aren't a serious list of questions unless you're an idiot (either questioning or answering). there's a couple that are ok, but mostly the questions are designed to get incomplete or unsatisfactory answers. this is done by creating straw man arguments, comparing two things that arent unrelated, or asking questions of the type "when did you stop beating your wife". and it only requires a moderately intelligent person to take these questions apart (though that would leave them open to accusations of not answering the questions.

personally i would advise people of all political persuasions to ignore stuff like this unless it;s a friendly debate with people you know who will listen, debate, and ultimately not hate you for your different opinion (and you them).

**hotsauceman1**

trexmeyer wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
You're on the Internet. Prepare for the left wing to descend upon you and call you a bigot fascist nazi capitalist.
Duck and cover, for there is no help here.

You made extremely good points (such as 15), but people are going to scream at you for using "strawmans" and being "regressive reactionary oppressor".

Oh wait. You're one of them too. You're one of them! You're one of them! Nooooo!

Actually Hotsauceman1 disagrees with all of the points the young conservative is trying to bring up. Oh wait, you already noticed that.

FYI Hotsauce, Conservatives actually do give more to charities than Liberals/Democrats/Leftists/etc by a wide margin.

I am liberal and I just gave to a charitie, and my cousin, who is conservative says charities are a waste of time.
Its all a matter of the individual person, Liberal and conservative does not automatically make someone a good/bad person.

**Verviedi**

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**trexmeyer**

Anecdotal evidence of two individuals is not pertinent when discussing the actions of entire communities. Of course there are Liberals that give and Conservatives that don't give.

**Verviedi**

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**hotsauceman1**

Of course it anecdotal, but that question is poised to make all liberals look like hypocrites, when all it accomplices is insulting individuals and not looking at the broader picture.

**Verviedi**

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**Peregrine**

Verviedi wrote:
You made extremely good points (such as 15)

I'm sorry, but I have to laugh at the idea of calling #15 an "extremely good point". It's a terrible argument that relies on blatant lying about abortion. Killing a blob of cells with less capacity for human thought/feelings/etc than a cockroach (which you gladly kill without hesitation) is not the same as killing a fully-developed human who may or may not be guilty of the crime you're killing them for.

And the rest of the questions aren't any better, they're all extremely weak arguments that even a brief amount of research into what liberals tend to believe would have answered. Perhaps if you think they're so good you should pick out which ones you think are the best so that we can explain why they're a joke?

**hotsauceman1**

I did always find that funny, That conservatives tended to be more "Pro-Deathpenalty" but somehow "Pro-choice" apparently a bunch of cells is more important then a fully formed human being

**Goliath**

Verviedi wrote:
You're on the Internet. Prepare for the left wing to descend upon you and call you a bigot fascist nazi capitalist.
Duck and cover, for there is no help here.

You made extremely good points (such as 15), but people are going to scream at you for using "strawmans" and being "regressive reactionary oppressor".

Oh wait. You're one of them too. You're one of them! You're one of them! Nooooo!

You know how you say "Duck and cover, for there is no help here"? Posts like yours are part of the problem. Immediately descending into a political thread with a comment about how the left wing is stupid isn't helpful, it only provokes flaming and anger, rather than reasoned discussion.

**Hordini**

hotsauceman1 wrote:Of course it anecdotal, but that question is poised to make all liberals look like hypocrites, when all it accomplices is insulting individuals and not looking at the broader picture.

Of course, liberals on the other hand, would never stoop to such tactics.

hotsauceman1 wrote:I did always find that funny, That conservatives tended to be more "Pro-Deathpenalty" but somehow "Pro-choice" apparently a bunch of cells is more important then a fully formed human being

Why is it funny? Whether you agree with it or not, it's not difficult to understand at all on a conceptual level.

**hotsauceman1**

Because, they think one type of killing is fine, while another is wrong.

**insaniak**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Because, they think one type of killing is fine, while another is wrong.

Indeed. It's almost as though the situations are different.

Can I be anti-death penalty but still eat steak?

**hotsauceman1**

Yes, because a Steak is from a cow, and not killing a living thing

**Ouze**

Flamebait from April 2013; the real question that can't be answered is why this wasn't just instalocked.

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yes, because a Steak is from a cow, and not killing a living thing

**insaniak**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yes, because a Steak is from a cow, and not killing a living thing

You get that extracting the steak generally involves killing the cow... right?

**hotsauceman1**

But is not human.

**insaniak**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
But is not human.

Ah.

So one kind of killing is ok, while another kind is wrong?

**hotsauceman1**

If it doesnt have a concept of death and what that entails beyond survival instinct. Which is why we dont kill chimps or elephants.

**Verviedi**

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**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

insaniak wrote:
Can I be anti-death penalty but still eat steak?

No. You must become vegan. Pro-death penalty must become vegan too, if that is any relief to you.

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Verviedi wrote:
Yes. Animals are nonsapient, and should serve humanity as we are more highly evolved than them.
Also,

hotsauceman1 wrote:
If it doesnt have a concept of death and what that entails beyond survival instinct. Which is why we dont kill chimps or elephants.

This thread makes me afraid now. I am likely going to be banned somehow if I decide to continue this conversation.

**Verviedi**

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**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

Not the political argument. The eating meat argument. I can get pretty passionate about this.

**Verviedi**

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