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 streamdragon wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Fango wrote:
Im assuming they are themed on the clans? Eshin, Moulder, etc... Which one is Pestilens?

Guessing the Skull faced one.

Definitely. The brown robe over green armor makes it, given the Plague Monks wear dirty brown/green habits.

The Clan Mors (Red) one looks pretty amazing also.

Is that what the red one is? I love it, looks like a giant Stormvermin. Stormvermin are some of my favourite Warhammer models.

The variant with the double sickles looks absolutely sick. Haha.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Fango wrote:
Im assuming they are themed on the clans? Eshin, Moulder, etc... Which one is Pestilens?

Guessing the Skull faced one.

Definitely. The brown robe over green armor makes it, given the Plague Monks wear dirty brown/green habits.

The Clan Mors (Red) one looks pretty amazing also.

Is that what the red one is? I love it, looks like a giant Stormvermin. Stormvermin are some of my favourite Warhammer models.

There are the 4 major clans, and then the warrior clans of which Clan Mors (who paint their armor red) are the biggest and strongest.

Stormvermin models are indeed amazing. I started putting a box together the other day and holy crap are they detailed.

They all "Have a little captain in them!"

 chiefbigredman wrote:
I'm liking the head of these two:





I like the weapon choices and how the horns don't all look the same because the first one had a little too much horns for my taste.

Not sure about the hair on that second PIC but nothing a little bit of clipping couldn't change.


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Wow just looked at how bad the feet look on these models....not a fan of those 2 claws

The top one must be eshin (look at the rules for the eshin one and the throwing star attacks) whereas i'm not sure about the other one with a skull face. I'm totally digging these other vermin lords though esp. the green colored one. It's probably the best one i've seen so far.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 chiefbigredman wrote:
I'm liking the head of these two:





I like the weapon choices and how the horns don't all look the same because the first one had a little too much horns for my taste.

Not sure about the hair on that second PIC but nothing a little bit of clipping couldn't change.


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Wow just looked at how bad the feet look on these models....not a fan of those 2 claws

The top one must be eshin (look at the rules for the eshin one and the throwing star attacks) whereas i'm not sure about the other one with a skull face. I'm totally digging these other vermin lords though esp. the green colored one. It's probably the best one i've seen so far.

The top one is the deceiver by the looks of things.

Yeah, like he said, the Eshin one. The skull faced one will be Pestilens.

These latest two heads look better, but man am I going to be sick of that pose before long (a problem with a lot of the big, dynamically posed GW plastic kits).

The skull faced one looks like he'd match up nicely with my beastmen actually. They all look pretty neat, and this is a case where I don't mind giving GW my money for a nicely sized model with lots of options.

I'm hoping there's a way to get the foot on the pedestal, regardless of which clan, and still have him holding the long polearm.

A Verminlord does not a Wolfen Lonewolf make.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
The skull faced one looks like he'd match up nicely with my beastmen actually. They all look pretty neat, and this is a case where I don't mind giving GW my money for a nicely sized model with lots of options.

I'm hoping there's a way to get the foot on the pedestal, regardless of which clan, and still have him holding the long polearm.

A Verminlord does not a Wolfen Lonewolf make.

It should be super simple. just remove the bottom end of the pole arm and slap on the rock feet.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 catharsix wrote:
Has there been a price point leaked for the Great Rat mix kit? I'm afraid to ask because I want one, and whenever that happens I'm always hugely disappointed by the sticker shock...

The base size and variety of options makes me think he'll be $76-$80(Maggoth Lord price range) rather than $100+(Nagash+Glottkin price range).

I could be entirely wrong though.

They are just a smidge above the Nagash softcover price point apparently.

That puts them at Maggoth Lord price range then.

Neat.

Not as big as Nagash either. Look at the base. I think it looks a lot like the broad Chariot ones.

Looking at the feet, I am saddened that the sculptor has no clue about animal anatomy.

They should tell him rats don't have horns either...

 Kanluwen wrote:
That puts them at Maggoth Lord price range then.

Neat.

Except for us ozzies and kiwis anyway...

 Haight wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:


So this is up. I haven't exactly been keeping up with things but uh.. did Ulthuan sink?

Yes sir, Valkia basically sieged and destroyed the mainstay dark elf city, and the events of End Times Khaine culminate in Ulthuan sinking below the waves.

The survivors of the three elven nations are now all living in Athel Loren.


If you're saying "WTF", that's an appropriate response, but it plays out pretty cool in the book.

I... I don't know what to say to that.

I'll accept that its played out well in the book since I haven't read it but what the ?
All elves have been reduced to living in the colonies? Why? What purpose could this possibly server? Where do we go from here? This suddenly seems a lot worse than 'just' killing off a bunch of characters. Doesn't it immediately tear all the best parts of the high elves out if there are no longer separate provinces? And Dark Elves marching with high elves was hard enough to believe before, now they live together?


I'll stop ranting now and add some on topic stuff to this post real quick: moving from game piece painting to display piece painting must have turned me into a snob because those rats just look like toys too me. I don't understand why the fur just stops and starts where it does, it should be all over and simply get longer in those areas or else they should be naked skin with *random* patches of fur if you want to play up the mutated aspects. Either way that harsh skin to long fur line you can clearly see with no transition has no excuse at all.

Honestly, end times as a whole looked like a way to breath some life back into Fantasy and get people like me who loved it only a couple of years ago back into the game. What I'm seeing happen however is GW slaping some unessesarily large models together in CAD, butchering the fluff to suit some unknown agenda and dividing the playerbase with odd, semi optional rules like they have in 40k.

 Ozymandias wrote:
They should tell him rats don't have horns either...

Unless the physical manifestation of the great horned rat? Come on worlds fastest and most intelligent, you knew that!

 Red Corsair wrote:
They all "Have a little captain in them!"

Aaaargh! Here-Here, have an exalt!

I suppose I'm going to have to get all five, aren't I? Sigh...

 jonolikespie wrote:
All elves have been reduced to living in the colonies? Why? What purpose could this possibly server?

Consolidating the range. I imagine GW doesn't see the point in maintaining three separate elf lines with how poorly WHF has been doing lately. Far easier and probably cheaper to just roll them all into one.

 Sidstyler wrote:

 jonolikespie wrote:
All elves have been reduced to living in the colonies? Why? What purpose could this possibly server?

Consolidating the range. I imagine GW doesn't see the point in maintaining three separate elf lines with how poorly WHF has been doing lately. Far easier and probably cheaper to just roll them all into one.

I imagine a future book won't list separate units for High Elf Spearmen and Dreadspears, but rather a single unit, possibly with an option (or requirement) to 'upgrade' them to High or Dark or Wood Elves. I'm sure other units could be consolidated in the same way (Black Guard and Phoenix Guard, for example).

 Ozymandias wrote:
They should tell him rats don't have horns either...

Well actually the grey seers do because of their connection to the great horned rat and same with the current vermin lord. The horns may be a little over the top but they are supposed to represent the great horned rat in a way.

I imagine a future book won't list separate units for High Elf Spearmen and Dreadspears, but rather a single unit, possibly with an option (or requirement) to 'upgrade' them to High or Dark or Wood Elves. I'm sure other units could be consolidated in the same way (Black Guard and Phoenix Guard, for example).

I think you hit the nail on the head right there. Might just be possible that GW have realized that they have split the fantasy range off into far too many factions for them to comfortably manage and still make money. Look at the product line, it´s massive!

I really wish people would stop posting speculation as fact.

 tarnish wrote:

I imagine a future book won't list separate units for High Elf Spearmen and Dreadspears, but rather a single unit, possibly with an option (or requirement) to 'upgrade' them to High or Dark or Wood Elves. I'm sure other units could be consolidated in the same way (Black Guard and Phoenix Guard, for example).

I think you hit the nail on the head right there. Might just be possible that GW have realized that they have split the fantasy range off into far too many factions for them to comfortably manage and still make money. Look at the product line, it´s massive!

GW has said that NO factions with be removed. This includes combining armies to make one unified book. There will STILL be 15 different army books, none are being eliminated.

All of this crazy speculation about the future of WHFB and the direction of the story is a moot point being that the STORY IS NOT OVER YET. We havent seen the conclusion. If you think their is no way that they could ever go back with some of the stuff that has been done then you obviously dont know GW. Speculation is fine but axe the doom and gloom and let the story play itself out and lets see what the world looks like at the end of this going into 9th edition.

 namiel wrote:
GW has said that NO factions with be removed. This includes combining armies to make one unified book. There will STILL be 15 different army books, none are being eliminated.

Where was this said? I thought all indications pointed to the opposite, that combining of some armies was extremely likely...

 RiTides wrote:

 namiel wrote:
GW has said that NO factions with be removed. This includes combining armies to make one unified book. There will STILL be 15 different army books, none are being eliminated.

Where was this said? I thought all indications pointed to the opposite, that combining of some armies was extremely likely...

The problem is, simply put, that those "indications" are being used for nothing but speculation based upon player perception of their areas and things like "Fantasy just doesn't sell".

GW can retain the End Times as an "advancement of the story" while still retaining individual army books and ignoring the advancement of the story at the same time.
They've done it for years now by having characters who are dead as part of the army books(Konrad, Vlad, and Isabella von Carstein were all dead as of the current timeline. Vlad only is back because Nagash brought him back).

 RiTides wrote:

 namiel wrote:
GW has said that NO factions with be removed. This includes combining armies to make one unified book. There will STILL be 15 different army books, none are being eliminated.

Where was this said? I thought all indications pointed to the opposite, that combining of some armies was extremely likely...

by gw corporate

 namiel wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

 namiel wrote:
GW has said that NO factions with be removed. This includes combining armies to make one unified book. There will STILL be 15 different army books, none are being eliminated.

Where was this said? I thought all indications pointed to the opposite, that combining of some armies was extremely likely...

by gw corporate

GW said no factions will be removed, not that they won't combine army books into unified books.

I'm with Kanluwen, wish people would stop speculating as if it was fact. Especially where GW are concerned, their decisions are hard to read and sometimes illogical, we have literally no way of telling what they might do.