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Hey, I got this from warseer:

Quote Originally Posted by antaonix View Post
I got some news from my source. I translate it to english. "reanimation protocol now activates like Fantasy's ward save. if you failed a Armor save or cannot make armor save, you immediately make a reanimation protocol roll. It still 5+."
"Also, resurrection orb is now one use only. If you use it, you can reroll current phase's protocol." "Doom scythe's Death ray changed to S10 ap1 Small template Weapon." "If you wanna know more things about necron, buy codex and check."

Other thing he said was about the Harlequin, like this "Harlequin's kiss, Harlequin's hugg. Do you wanna join it?"

That sounds very unpleasing to me; at least on first reaction-reflex.

Again, will take anything from Warseer with a pinch of salt.

 adamsouza wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Dr. Delorean wrote:
Does anyone know what time pre-orders usually go up, specifically in Australia?

6am AEST.

Is it today or next firday the pre-orders go up ?

I refuse to buy my codexes direct from GW anymore, but Necron Dice and Datacards hard to ensure from another source.

Pre-orders are today. They should appear on the GW site at 1pm Central today... give or take and hour.
Support your FLGS as much as you can, but GW is making that hard with the creation of so many web exclusives.
Was I blind, or did I some how miss seeing the dice on the product list?

I don't remember seeing any dice either, closest thing I can think of are the 6 metal objective markers you get with the Cryptek edition.

No dice listed, just Datacards.

Independents should get allocated Datacards as they're not generally a web exclusive...and this is 40k, not Fantasy. The cards and dice are just what is referred to as a "Splash Release".

 Kanluwen wrote:
No dice listed, just Datacards.

Independents should get allocated Datacards as they're not generally a web exclusive...and this is 40k, not Fantasy. The cards and dice are just what is referred to as a "Splash Release".

so, we cannot get the datacards from independent stores?

No, you SHOULD be able to.

If you want to be guaranteed to get them? Ask your independent if they're getting them. If not, have the independent order them for you.

 Kanluwen wrote:
No, you SHOULD be able to.

If you want to be guaranteed to get them? Ask your independent if they're getting them. If not, have the independent order them for you.

Thank you.

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
Actually, for a game such as 40k, fluff is the primary reason for a mechanic or rule to exist. Reanimation Protocols exists because of the fluff. They Shall Know No Fear exists because of the fluff. Warp Storm exists because of the fluff....I could go on for several paragraphs, but you should be able to see my point. Every 40k game mechanic that is unique to an army is based on that army's fluff.

Your example of the heroic dreadnaught is flawed, because that is a one-off " story time" fluff piece and not a general description of the unit in question, where as the C'Tan shards are described in general as unwilling slaves.

So actually we should put in a rule where C'tans choose the best attack for the situation, even when the player wants to use a sub-optimal power.
Unless you are saying that these Star Gods are dumb?

Kangodo wrote:

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
Actually, for a game such as 40k, fluff is the primary reason for a mechanic or rule to exist. Reanimation Protocols exists because of the fluff. They Shall Know No Fear exists because of the fluff. Warp Storm exists because of the fluff....I could go on for several paragraphs, but you should be able to see my point. Every 40k game mechanic that is unique to an army is based on that army's fluff.

Your example of the heroic dreadnaught is flawed, because that is a one-off " story time" fluff piece and not a general description of the unit in question, where as the C'Tan shards are described in general as unwilling slaves.

So actually we should put in a rule where C'tans choose the best attack for the situation, even when the player wants to use a sub-optimal power.
Unless you are saying that these Star Gods are dumb?

Well, obviously they are or they wouldn't be enslaved star gods.

Didn't see this one on here yet:

 agnosto wrote:

Kangodo wrote:

 ClassicCarraway wrote:
Actually, for a game such as 40k, fluff is the primary reason for a mechanic or rule to exist. Reanimation Protocols exists because of the fluff. They Shall Know No Fear exists because of the fluff. Warp Storm exists because of the fluff....I could go on for several paragraphs, but you should be able to see my point. Every 40k game mechanic that is unique to an army is based on that army's fluff.

Your example of the heroic dreadnaught is flawed, because that is a one-off " story time" fluff piece and not a general description of the unit in question, where as the C'Tan shards are described in general as unwilling slaves.

So actually we should put in a rule where C'tans choose the best attack for the situation, even when the player wants to use a sub-optimal power.
Unless you are saying that these Star Gods are dumb?

Well, obviously they are or they wouldn't be enslaved star gods.

There's no protection against the mind of a 14 year old stuck in the body of a middle-aged writer!

"The only way to make this even more devastating is to check out the bonus they get if they are part of a decursion Detachment"

Does this mean that all the units get Relentless, MTC, re-roll 1's on RP AND something else....? Depending if that's the case this detatchment might be pretty sweet after all.

"Everyone Wins?"

What is this gak.

 Desubot wrote:
"Everyone Wins?"

What is this gak.

They've been saying that gak forever. There're loads of WD articles about the best games are when noone "wins" and so on.

But they are correct.
Old: Formations and standard Detachments.
New: Formations, Detachments ánd Decurion-style.

So everybody wins.

I'll tell you this: Move through cover, coupled with Rerolling 1's on RP makes the decurion not terrible. And, if you have a CC Overlord supporting a unit, Relentless isn't too bad.

Dunno if I'll bite though. I prefer more freedom in building my army. We'll see.

Haha, if I can use Zhandrekh to give 20 Warriors Furious Charge then I am totally going to charge with them

Kangodo wrote:But they are correct.
Old: Formations and standard Detachments.
New: Formations, Detachments ánd Decurion-style.

So everybody wins.

Cue the Psy remix....
Op, op, op op
Oppa Decurion-style

But yes.. it sounds that each attachment within the Decurion Detachment will have special rules of their own, on top to the detachment wide rules.

Every formation having their own rules could be pretty amazing actually. I'm not sure how I feel about them turning Necrons into a ground slogging army but if the formation rules are good, I am down with it. It's still a pretty heavy tax to pay having to take four units I might not otherwise take to get it though. If they keep tomb blades to units of one for 20pts, that's not terrible. If they keep warriors and immortals to units of five, that isn't terrible either. It looks like all the formations are 0+ so I should be able to take as many of the formations of the same type that I can afford in whatever points I am playing. Tax would only be 235 to get all of those units at the bare minimum. It's good to have units to take objectives anyway.

I guess we just need to wait a week and see what happens.

And they're up as of 2:10 EST...earlier than usual.

Cryptek Edition Ordered.

Gah, my browser won't even load GW.

Just a thought, that new Necron FoC Formation thing has compulsary tomb blades along with Immortals and Warriors, given that both the latter two are troops could that potentially indicate a shift of tomb blades to the troops section?

 Kanluwen wrote:
And they're up as of 2:10 EST...earlier than usual.

Yay!

Got special edition codex, C'tan cards, new overlord model and white dwarf issue.

...And now we wait.

WOOT got mine ordered and on the way, along side the new lord (: now its having patients...

NOTE: WORDING FROM NECRON CARDS

This set of Datacards contains 7 large-format cards detailing the Powers of the C’tan, the psychic powers from Codex: Necrons. There are 6 powers on individual cards and the seventh card explains how to use them. Also included is a full set of 36 Tactical Objectives cards, including the 6 unique Necrons Tactical Objectives from Codex: Necrons.

Unknown if this is just a comparison or if C'tan are legitimately psykers now.

Requizen wrote:
Unknown if this is just a comparison or if C'tan are legitimately psykers now.

... or if GW just screwed up the description on the web store.

Codex: Necrons Cryptek Edition is online for preorder. 1000 individually numbered copies with codex, 22 datasheets, 6 objective markers (metal), and double-sided poster.

It will be gone in a few minutes, so get it now if you want it.

$200 Canadian.