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2015/01/26 18:21:46
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Galorian wrote: Scarabs took a hit with their overall price increase and aren't quite as scary as they used to be against vehicles but can now hurt any MC in the game, which is nice.
Lychguards for 25 ppm is INSANE. Wonder how much the S&B upgrade costs?
I read that to be 33 ppm with shield
Really? The tyranid guy said 5pts for the upgrade.
and also 140 for 5, which isn't 25 ppm
2015/01/26 18:23:31
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Galorian wrote: Scarabs took a hit with their overall price increase and aren't quite as scary as they used to be against vehicles but can now hurt any MC in the game, which is nice.
Lychguards for 25 ppm is INSANE. Wonder how much the S&B upgrade costs?
I read that to be 33 ppm with shield
Really? The tyranid guy said 5pts for the upgrade.
and also 140 for 5, which isn't 25 ppm
That's for praetorians.
Lychguard are 125 for 5, no upgrades.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
2015/01/26 18:25:26
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
There's a depressing amount of 'one use only' in those artefacts.
Also, 2+ save and Fear for 35pts... what are the designers smoking? O_o
Also, who on Earth priced the Resurrection Orb?
blood reaper wrote: I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote: Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote: GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
2015/01/26 18:29:22
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
vipoid wrote: There's a depressing amount of 'one use only' in those artefacts.
Also, 2+ save and Fear for 35pts... what are the designers smoking? O_o
Also, who on Earth priced the Resurrection Orb?
Someone who played Dawn of War, probably.
"Oh hey, the res orb in DoW is an activated item that ressurrects dudes. Lets translate that into the tabletop, instead of leaving it as a passive effect!"
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
2015/01/26 18:31:43
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Desubot wrote: Ahhahahahahahahaah all the special rule culling. i love it
Nebuloscope: nice they kinda needed a way to actually ignore cover.
Wasn't it a Tomb Blade upgrade last codex?
What are tomb blades /trollface
honestly dont know. il go take a look but i always get complaints that besides templates they dont have any ignore cover. though i am mistaking it as a relic wargear i think.
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Wowowow, I leave work and all of a sudden a massive information dump happens. Surprised how accurate the rumours were. Let's see:
-Lychguard 25 pts/model, +5 for sword + shield Ehhhh... That's pretty bad in honesty. 25 inc shield would be good, 30 is very steep for a non-shooty, footslogging unit. Bleh. Not the units fault really, just a flaw with assault in 40k generally.
-Whip coils now +3I To be honest, that's probably better. Whip coils only applied in base to base, so tarpits still regularly struck first. More of a sidegrade than a nerf or buff, and much simpler which I appreciate.
-Scarabs 20 pts/model. Uh, wut. Entropic touch is now 100% identical to gauss? That can't be right, surely? Well, assuming one of them is wrong, meh, but overall this is cool. 20 pts is too much IMO, but I think this technically works out as a buff?
-Doom Scythe does have blast AKA Doom Scythe is dead.
-Flayed ones do get shred Anyone who used the IA12 list knows this is surprisingly decent. That's a lot of attacks and really quite cheap. Not good, but fun and maybe usable.
-Reanimation nerfed to 6+ with ID Sucks. Fluffy, but sucks. Never mind, we wouldn;t get it at all with FNP I guess.
-Night Scythes 130 points Mmmm, yeah, that's okay. I can deal with that.
-Gauss auto wounds on a 6, and auto glances on a 6. No double strength. As mentioned above, this is literally identical to entropic strike now? Odd. On the other hand, getting auto wounding back is really nice for fluffy armies. Doesn't affect too much though,
-Tomb Blades have twin linked gauss blasters. These can be exchanged with twin linked Tesla Carbines for free, or Particle Beamers for 2 points / model And someone told me 2 point upgrades were weird :p Anyway, that points drop is nice but I suspect gauss still wins overall.
-Anrakyr is 160 points. What? He went UP in points? Did he gain something insane then?
-Triarch Praetorians are 140 points for a squad of 5. Their Rod of Covenant has a 12" range. Meet out not-quite-plasma assault marines everyone. Costly, but... maybe worth that now? I mean, you basically hit like an MC and fire 5 S5 AP2 shots a turn base. That's not great, but it;s nowhere close to bad. In fact, I'm not even convinced that it's not great either to be honest. Will need to see how they play.
-Doomsday Ark Is still bad, as expected.
-Spyder Same as old, but no points given and doesn't look like it's 1-3 any more either.
-Cryptek Aurghgrh, that's a sharp point increase. Not sure if I'll be taking them - depends on how good that wargear is. Better be flipping good.
-CCB 135 point inc Overlord ...
...
Whoa. GW, what are you doing? You took something good and made it BETTER? That's a full 55 pt decrease! Crazy.
-Destroyers I'm in love with these guys. Jet pack Lascannons are real. Okay, they're 50 points but... jet pack PE lascannon. On a T5 W2 model. It's like a Crisis suit with a big gun and more armour (okay, for a lot of points but come on).
2015/01/26 18:37:18
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Eyjio wrote: Wowowow, I leave work and all of a sudden a massive information dump happens. Surprised how accurate the rumours were. Let's see:
-Lychguard 25 pts/model, +5 for sword + shield Ehhhh... That's pretty bad in honesty. 25 inc shield would be good, 30 is very steep for a non-shooty, footslogging unit. Bleh. Not the units fault really, just a flaw with assault in 40k generally.
point 1) every THSS terminator would like to have a word with you id love it if we got a points reduction like that.
Edit: Whip coils i think was just to stop that silly wombo combo with times arrow. a lot of it seems to be various simplification like changing chronometron to a save instead of rerolling a dice and stuff.
Edit: Also CCB cant get a 3+ invul anymore too sooooooo yeah.
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Eyjio wrote: Wowowow, I leave work and all of a sudden a massive information dump happens. Surprised how accurate the rumours were. Let's see:
-Lychguard 25 pts/model, +5 for sword + shield Ehhhh... That's pretty bad in honesty. 25 inc shield would be good, 30 is very steep for a non-shooty, footslogging unit. Bleh. Not the units fault really, just a flaw with assault in 40k generally.
point 1) every THSS terminator would like to have a word with you id love it if we got a points reduction like that.
Edit: Whip coils i think was just to stop that silly wombo combo with times arrow. a lot of it seems to be various simplification like changing chronometron to a save instead of rerolling a dice and stuff.
Okay you can be 30 points, but you have to power swords instead of Thunderhammers
My win rate while having my arms and legs tied behind by back while blindfolded and stuffed in a safe that is submerged underwater:
100%
2015/01/26 18:40:52
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Have to say very tempted to play with Necrons. That army box they have (temporarily out of stock :() looks actually somewhat decent for only $185, but I fear like everything else you'll pay out the wazoo to bulk it out properly.
Lychguard and Praetorians still junk? Said army box says it has 5 Lychguard but that seems to be a kit that can make 5 Praetorians or Lychguard.
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- Wayne
Formerly WayneTheGame
2015/01/26 18:44:27
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Chronometron Aww, I was hoping this wouldn't change. Still, that's an interesting way to buff foot armies. 20 man warrior blobs with 4+/5++ and better FNP is no laughing matter.
D shield Expected nerf honestly, rule basically never came into play.
Fab claws Same as before, still bad.
Gloom Prism Worse, but not bad still.
MSS Bad. Expected.
Nebuloscope Very good, depending on what can take it and where.
Phase shifter I'll take a 4++ instead of a 3++ if it's down 20 points honestly.
Phylactery Probably still won't take it.
Res orb It dead. It soooo dead.
Other stuff needs a whole write up, so will miss that for now. Nightmare shroud is way too expensive, but if it's our only 2+ save... :(
2015/01/26 18:45:28
Subject: Re:Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
How is the gloom prism worse? It's 3" bubble was useless, unless you want to get nuked. But yeah, RIP Res Orb. There goes an iconic bit of Necron gear.
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
~4100
~1660
