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Would a Destroyer Lord joined to a unit of Wraiths even be able to do a Trust Move? After all, the Trust Move are talking about Jet Pack units, not models, and as he is joined to the Wraiths, is it not a Beasts unit?

 Redemption wrote:
Would a Destroyer Lord joined to a unit of Wraiths even be able to do a Trust Move? After all, the Trust Move are talking about Jet Pack units, not models, and as he is joined to the Wraiths, is it not a Beasts unit?

It's questions like these that makes me want GW to actually read the FAQs we send them.

Also keep in mind that joining a Destroyer Lord to a units of Wraiths makes them lose the benefits from Fleet, even further slowing them down.

Attath Destroyer lord to unit of deathmarks, give him Str7 AP2 flamer and use the Deathmark interception deepstrike rule.

BOOM You've got yourself a new Despairtek.

Even better, an intercepting Despairtek-squad!

can someone link to monolilth stats I missed that? Please say it was minorly buffed at least.

Jaq Draco lives wrote:
can someone link to monolilth stats I missed that? Please say it was minorly buffed at least.

Flux arcs are heavy 3 s5 ap4 independent targeting. Which is cool - except the particle whip is still ordnance

 Redemption wrote:
Would a Destroyer Lord joined to a unit of Wraiths even be able to do a Trust Move? After all, the Trust Move are talking about Jet Pack units, not models, and as he is joined to the Wraiths, is it not a Beasts unit?

It's a mixed unit. The destroyer lord can make a thrust move in the assault phase provided he does not break coherency since he is a Jet Pack unit in a mixed unit of a single model Jet Pack unit and multiple model Jump Pack unit .

Just have him start in front before movement and trail at the back at the end of movement (trailing wraiths to keep him in coherency). Move them all together in shooting, Then during assault jet pack leapfrog him back to the front. On average he moves a little bit more combined than wraiths.

I've not seen much discussion on the flying Croissants, did they change much? Is it safe to say they will still be spammed?

 tetrisphreak wrote:

Jaq Draco lives wrote:
can someone link to monolilth stats I missed that? Please say it was minorly buffed at least.

Flux arcs are heavy 3 s5 ap4 independent targeting. Which is cool - except the particle whip is still ordnance

Thinking about it though, now that flayed ones are pretty amazing is there not a reasonable case to be made for either deep striking or moving it forward 6" disembark flayed ones 6" and a 7" average charge?

19" charge should allow for second turn hassle free charge, I can usually find a target within 25" if I started a Monolith at the front of the line.

I've never used one so I'm a little unfamiliar as to how that teleport trick works.

Jaq Draco lives wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

Jaq Draco lives wrote:
can someone link to monolilth stats I missed that? Please say it was minorly buffed at least.

Flux arcs are heavy 3 s5 ap4 independent targeting. Which is cool - except the particle whip is still ordnance

Thinking about it though, now that flayed ones are pretty amazing is there not a reasonable case to be made for either deep striking or moving it forward 6" disembark flayed ones 6" and a 7" average charge?

19" charge should allow for second turn hassle free charge, I can usually find a target within 25" if I started a Monolith at the front of the line.

I've never used one so I'm a little unfamiliar as to how that teleport trick works.

You can get protected Deep Strike for up to 2 monoliths if you use the Obelisk formation. Serious invasion force. Monoliths get a buff if used in this formation.

DaPino wrote:
Attath Destroyer lord to unit of deathmarks, give him Str7 AP2 flamer and use the Deathmark interception deepstrike rule.

BOOM You've got yourself a new Despairtek.

Except, unlike Death and Despair in a Scythe, there's no way to keep them from scattering at all... Bleh.

Requizen wrote:

DaPino wrote:
Attath Destroyer lord to unit of deathmarks, give him Str7 AP2 flamer and use the Deathmark interception deepstrike rule.

BOOM You've got yourself a new Despairtek.

Except, unlike Death and Despair in a Scythe, there's no way to keep them from scattering at all... Bleh.

I've mishapped with Deathmarks a grand total of twice. Generally the worst thing that happens is a few dangerous terrain checks.

col_impact wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
Would a Destroyer Lord joined to a unit of Wraiths even be able to do a Trust Move? After all, the Trust Move are talking about Jet Pack units, not models, and as he is joined to the Wraiths, is it not a Beasts unit?

It's a mixed unit. The destroyer lord can make a thrust move in the assault phase provided he does not break coherency since he is a Jet Pack unit in a mixed unit of a single model Jet Pack unit and multiple model Jump Pack unit .

Just have him start in front before movement and trail at the back at the end of movement (trailing wraiths to keep him in coherency). Move them all together in shooting, Then during assault jet pack leapfrog him back to the front. On average he moves a little bit more combined than wraiths.

It's a beast unit, not a jump unit.

Requizen wrote:

DaPino wrote:
Attath Destroyer lord to unit of deathmarks, give him Str7 AP2 flamer and use the Deathmark interception deepstrike rule.

BOOM You've got yourself a new Despairtek.

Except, unlike Death and Despair in a Scythe, there's no way to keep them from scattering at all... Bleh.

How about buying them a Scythe? Yeah it's gotten more expensive but nothing stopts you from doing it.

Destroyer Lords cannot enter a Night Scythe, which is stupid because the old one could even transport Tomb Blades fcs.

Jaq Draco lives wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:

Jaq Draco lives wrote:
can someone link to monolilth stats I missed that? Please say it was minorly buffed at least.

Flux arcs are heavy 3 s5 ap4 independent targeting. Which is cool - except the particle whip is still ordnance

Thinking about it though, now that flayed ones are pretty amazing is there not a reasonable case to be made for either deep striking or moving it forward 6" disembark flayed ones 6" and a 7" average charge?

19" charge should allow for second turn hassle free charge, I can usually find a target within 25" if I started a Monolith at the front of the line.

I've never used one so I'm a little unfamiliar as to how that teleport trick works.

It can now also regenerate lost hull points through the new Living Metal rule, as it is Heavy. I don't think they can charge when they use the Eternity Gate though, as it's not an assault vehicle and it counts like disembarking a Transport.

Can someone post the literal wording from the Formation for the Judicator the one with the Triarch Stalker and Praetoreans.

Getting mixed bonus abilities on it and what it does, one side says it's only shooting from models in that formation another says it's any shooting. Would like a clarification.

Is anyone else kind of annoyed that we don't get any plastic flayed ones, or even special dice? It makes me sad

Kangodo wrote:
Destroyer Lords cannot enter a Night Scythe, which is stupid because the old one could even transport Tomb Blades fcs.

Does it have a special rule against transporting very bulky?

It's that it doesn't have a rule that overrides that it can transport only Infantry, which all transports have by default.

DaPino wrote:

Kangodo wrote:
Destroyer Lords cannot enter a Night Scythe, which is stupid because the old one could even transport Tomb Blades fcs.

Does it have a special rule against transporting very bulky?

I'm fairly certain that the BRB rules for transports disallow Jump and Jet infantry, so unless a specific clause is written to allow it, they cannot enter the Nightscythe.

Edit: Ninja'd!

Also. Bulky and Very Bulky on non infantry is for entering buildings.

DaPino wrote:

Kangodo wrote:
Destroyer Lords cannot enter a Night Scythe, which is stupid because the old one could even transport Tomb Blades fcs.

Does it have a special rule against transporting very bulky?

in 7th a transport can only transport infantry unless otherwise stated.

Double Ninja'd

toonkirby wrote:
Is anyone else kind of annoyed that we don't get any plastic flayed ones, or even special dice? It makes me sad

There are still rumors of a new destroyer kit on the horizon. Perhaps we will get a plastic flayed ones box as well. Those both would be at least 3-6 months out, if not more.

Chessex will make custom dice for you. 36 of the larger 16mm dice with a custom engraving on one side would cost around $30 before shipping. That's probably cheaper than what GW would charge.

Flayed Ones are extremely easy to make on your own from Necron Warriors and a bit of GS. I got about 70 of 'em.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Flayed Ones are extremely easy to make on your own from Necron Warriors and a bit of GS. I got about 70 of 'em.

Post a couple pics for guidance and inspiration?

 Anpu-adom wrote:

toonkirby wrote:
Is anyone else kind of annoyed that we don't get any plastic flayed ones, or even special dice? It makes me sad

Chessex will make custom dice for you. 36 of the larger 16mm dice with a custom engraving on one side would cost around $30 before shipping. That's probably cheaper than what GW would charge.

I was so pumped about the Necron release I was willing to pay the ridiculous prices GW asks for their custom dice.

Checked on Chessex

http://www.chessex.com/Dice/Custom_Dice_Home.htm

Pricing:

10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes

• These prices are for the 16mm six-sided dice and include the die itself.
• All orders must be accompanied with a credit card.
• Shipping costs are added to all orders with a $5.95 minimum.

Anyone have a decent Necron line art image that would look great on a 16mm die ?

 adamsouza wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:

toonkirby wrote:
Is anyone else kind of annoyed that we don't get any plastic flayed ones, or even special dice? It makes me sad

Chessex will make custom dice for you. 36 of the larger 16mm dice with a custom engraving on one side would cost around $30 before shipping. That's probably cheaper than what GW would charge.

I was so pumped about the Necron release I was willing to pay the ridiculous prices GW asks for their custom dice.

Checked on Chessex

http://www.chessex.com/Dice/Custom_Dice_Home.htm

Pricing:

10-25 dice: $1.00 per side
26-99 dice: $0.75 per side
100-199 dice: $0.60 per side
200-499 dice: $0.50 per side
500-999 dice: $0.42 per side
1000+: please ask for quotes

• These prices are for the 16mm six-sided dice and include the die itself.
• All orders must be accompanied with a credit card.
• Shipping costs are added to all orders with a $5.95 minimum.

Anyone have a decent Necron line art image that would look great on a 16mm die ?

Why not just the Ankh of the Triarch?

I've seen screen shots of some example symbols from the new codex. I'd wait and see what that page brings. You could look at the old water transfer sheets as well... I have about a dozen that I don't use. It seems that each Lord and Overlord has their own ... well, cartouche.


NOTE: I just had a double post... possible side effect of this thread going past 100 pages, or some other shenanigans. I didn't comment on it and it was fixed in less than 30 seconds.

Hollismason wrote:
Can someone post the literal wording from the Formation for the Judicator the one with the Triarch Stalker and Praetoreans.

Getting mixed bonus abilities on it and what it does, one side says it's only shooting from models in that formation another says it's any shooting. Would like a clarification.

Hollis,

I don't have the book on me atm but it works like this:

The judicator battalion benefits are for the units in the formation only, but with no range or coherency restrictions between units. The only requirement is that the stalker is able to draw LOS to the target (it could not even be in range technically)

The praetorians do not have to be within any range of the stalker or the target (except within the range of their own weapons to benefit from actually shooting at the target!)

The benefits are re-rolls for to-hit, to wound, and armor pen, but only in the shooting phase