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Nah, just like with anything, you get used to it. From a distance a bolter looks like a flamer looks like a meltagun looks like a plasma gun to a generic shlub, until you get used to it.

Pledged at 110. Those models are too beautiful and I'm a fan of Andy Chambers (coughcoughSSTcoughcough)

This is insane. I had not expected it to be this popular

they better put up some stretch goals.


Prediction: it'll make 500k and be called a failure, like Warpath kickstarter

Grabbed a 500 to be safe but will probably downgrade to 110 unless my club gets in on it. I'm so god damn in, ANDYYYYYY

 judgedoug wrote:
they better put up some stretch goals.


Prediction: it'll make 500k and be called a failure, like Warpath kickstarter

I doubt it (that it'll be called a failure). Mantic has earned alot of both praise and flak for how they run their kickstarters/business. I don't see the same ire towards Hawk. I'm thinking this will top the $1 million dollar mark personally but that just may be my bias showing (despite the fact that I don't plan on pledging beyond $1.00 and will wait till retail).

 Mymearan wrote:
Grabbed a 500 to be safe but will probably downgrade to 110 unless my club gets in on it. I'm so god damn in, ANDYYYYYY

Hmm if you do let me know. My and my buddy were eyeing the 500 level and then poof they all vanished


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 warboss wrote:
I doubt it (that it'll be called a failure).

well of course not, because

bias

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 warboss wrote:
I don't plan on pledging beyond $1.00 and will wait till retail).

I might have considered that but the exclusive ship just roped me right in. Buzzword to open Doug's wallet = success

From the Beasts of War interviews they have a clear plan of what they want to do, but also what they don't want to do via KS (and that they don't want to fund anything too far out in the dev process),

so don't be surprised if they say We've Finished at some point rather than just throwing up more and more stretch goals

 judgedoug wrote:

 Mymearan wrote:
Grabbed a 500 to be safe but will probably downgrade to 110 unless my club gets in on it. I'm so god damn in, ANDYYYYYY

Hmm if you do let me know. My and my buddy were eyeing the 500 level and then poof they all vanished


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 warboss wrote:
I doubt it (that it'll be called a failure).

well of course not, because

bias

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 warboss wrote:
I don't plan on pledging beyond $1.00 and will wait till retail).

I might have considered that but the exclusive ship just roped me right in. Buzzword to open Doug's wallet = success

Will do!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
From the Beasts of War interviews they have a clear plan of what they want to do, but also what they don't want to do via KS (and that they don't want to fund anything too far out in the dev process),

so don't be surprised if they say We've Finished at some point rather than just throwing up more and more stretch goals

I'd much prefer more companies do the "ok we're done" approach than overpromise and have to do multiple waves, cutting into their shipping budget and annihilating the quality of the original items produced. aka being a victim of their own success

 judgedoug wrote:

I might have considered that but the exclusive ship just roped me right in. Buzzword to open Doug's wallet = success

Or Andy... or Alessio... or "not the current niche market leader but rather a nicely done alternative". Those keywords all seem to work on you.

 warboss wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

I might have considered that but the exclusive ship just roped me right in. Buzzword to open Doug's wallet = success

Or Andy... or Alessio... or "not the current niche market leader but rather a nicely done alternative". Those keywords all seem to work on you.

It's only because I'm not actively involved in discussions about AoS, WMH, DZC - all of which I play... and Bolt Action, which I rep for!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
From the Beasts of War interviews they have a clear plan of what they want to do, but also what they don't want to do via KS (and that they don't want to fund anything too far out in the dev process),

so don't be surprised if they say We've Finished at some point rather than just throwing up more and more stretch goals

I'll have to watch that later tonight. I'm curious to see what Dave/Hawk will say regarding this. If I hadn't already dipped my toe into the space combat pool for the first time in over a decade with Halo, I'd be picking up the captain pledge as well.

Have pledged for £200 because I am interested in other fleets.

I wasn't interested in the beta testing but hope there will be an opportunity to bolt on stuff that admirals get included otherwise.

I'm a little confused on the difference between Frigates and Fleet Carriers. Is there only one configuration for Fleet Carriers, and the sprue only lets you build 2 of each (rather than 4 of one type)?

I suspect based on how many common parts you see, you likely will be able to build multiple of each cruiser type per sprue. For UCM it's quite obvious, as the differences (smooth upper hull vs turreted vs laser), (laser vs turreted lower hull), (bare vs fighter vs turreted aft section) plus various bits that bolt into the turret slots means they're fairly modular.

 RiTides wrote:
I'm a little confused on the difference between Frigates and Fleet Carriers. Is there only one configuration for Fleet Carriers, and the sprue only lets you build 2 of each (rather than 4 of one type)?

RiTides, it looks like the carriers are made from the Frigate sprue, as that is where they have it displayed. Same for both races in the starter, the carriers are shown to be buildable variants from the frigate sprues. I think that they're pushing that you make 2 carriers in the starter set per side because that is "how they envision the game being played." As in, they are emphasizing the space-ground integration piece as one of the in-game objectives from what I've read. So, if you got 2 starters, you could have 6 cruisers, 6 frigates and just 2 carriers, so that you deliver troops into the atmosphere but have a large space battle fleet too.

This is all conjecture without having seen the rules. I really think this game will have some great mechanics. Like the models so far!

I really love the maps too. - It kinda looks like a zoomed out Google Earth.

And naturally the ships are awesome!

It's gonna get expensive if I'm wanting a complete PHR, UCM and Scourge fleets.

Are there *any* stretch goals yet?

And is the only way to get the really nice looking KS Exclusive ship to pledge at the £110 level?

I don't think I like the Scourge enough to play that faction, but I do like the UCM...

That's a good point: Assault Carriers (not to be confused with space fighter carriers) are atmosphere lander ships, used to take objectives (which are apparently going to be cities on the map or something). So you probably will absolutely need some, just like how you need some infantry in Dropzone.

So it's not unlikely that some of the frigates on the set will be locked as assault carriers instead of the other types, since you'll need those anyway.

Aye, I read fleet carriers as carrying fighters and bombers for space borne war and assault carriers carrying the ground forces

 RiTides wrote:
I'm a little confused on the difference between Frigates and Fleet Carriers. Is there only one configuration for Fleet Carriers, and the sprue only lets you build 2 of each (rather than 4 of one type)?

The small frigate sized carriers were called 'Strike Carriers', while its possible that the name has simply been changed I think that Fleet Carriers will be the Cruiser sized ones.


The 2 frigates on the right are Strike Carriers while the Cruiser on the left has launch bays.

Yeah Fleet Carriers are cruiser sized, Seattle Class apparently.

Update 1 out, they will add 50 more Admiral level pledges in the next few minutes

That's pretty darn awesome.

Thing is, not being a fan of Shaltari, it's still more efficient for me to stick with captain I think

The first stretch goal has been announced, Shaltari at £130k, so in about half an hour then
I think I will stick to the £60 level, there hasn't been a huge amount of interest locally so there isn't much point in spending a lot on this.

One add on I would be interested in is a PVC mat as the paper ones will never last.

More admiral stretch goals added, but they're going fast!

 Alpharius wrote:
Are there *any* stretch goals yet?

And is the only way to get the really nice looking KS Exclusive ship to pledge at the £110 level?

I don't think I like the Scourge enough to play that faction, but I do like the UCM...

There are a couple of unlocked 'bolt-ons' such as faction pins.

You will need an opponent so split the cost with someone you know who wants to play Scourge.

Puffin, I think that's wrong and here's why -

The list is 6 Cruisers, 4 Frigates, 4 Fleet Carriers in the starter box.

That is 3 Cruisers, 2 Frigates, and 2 Fleet Carriers per side - 7 ships, the same as in the image you posted above.

So, they might be having a misnomer on the exact Carrier type, but in the starter box there are 3 Cruisers, 2 Frigates, and 2 Frigate-sized Carriers per side.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
From the Beasts of War interviews they have a clear plan of what they want to do, but also what they don't want to do via KS (and that they don't want to fund anything too far out in the dev process),

so don't be surprised if they say We've Finished at some point rather than just throwing up more and more stretch goals

I have a sneaking suspicion that events may overtake them somewhat. I wouldn't be surprised if this blasts past their estimates and there'll be backers clamouring for more... After all, Hawk miniatures combined with a game penned by Mr BFG!

Those ships are gorgeous *_*

The previews for game mechanics seem really interesting yet modern too. Three altitude levels with different effects, varying 'ranges' due to detection or non-detection as all ships are operating at some sort of stealth until firing, elegant d6 resolution, heavy objective play...