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2014/12/28 12:57:53
Subject: Assaulting out of Deepstrike, Epic game changer or Mehh?
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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 koooaei wrote: Kavish wrote:The new Blood Angels Formation is crazy powerful. Not auto-win because of the points cost of 3 stormravens and 3 tac squads. But in 2000 pts your opponent could have 3 Death Company units in their face turn 1! You can kiss your 3 best units goodbye! If you spread them out though (when on the receiving end) only 1 of said units would disappear. The formation forces the deep strikers to arrive close together.
turn 2
No, turn 1. The formation starts reserve rolls immediately.
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2014/12/28 13:27:09
Subject: Assaulting out of Deepstrike, Epic game changer or Mehh?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Eh, considering that it requires a 1020 pt tax off the bat, and then another two troopmchoices and an hq, it is not that overall impressive.
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 warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
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2014/12/29 07:05:44
Subject: Assaulting out of Deepstrike, Epic game changer or Mehh?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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 AlmightyWalrus wrote: koooaei wrote: Kavish wrote:The new Blood Angels Formation is crazy powerful. Not auto-win because of the points cost of 3 stormravens and 3 tac squads. But in 2000 pts your opponent could have 3 Death Company units in their face turn 1! You can kiss your 3 best units goodbye! If you spread them out though (when on the receiving end) only 1 of said units would disappear. The formation forces the deep strikers to arrive close together.
turn 2
No, turn 1. The formation starts reserve rolls immediately.
Tacticals inside are still not allowed to assault turn 1. And stuff that deepstrikes can't arrive turn 1. Unless they get some other formation with turn 1 arrival which i'm not aware of. I'm not sure about the pods though.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/12/29 07:07:18
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2014/12/30 20:34:14
Subject: Assaulting out of Deepstrike, Epic game changer or Mehh?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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 Crazyterran wrote:I can't wait for someone to drop in near my coteaz grav star for an assault.
you mean like 60 storm boyz that bog you down until the end of the game. the problem with centurion star is that it cant win fights all by itself and when it gets ganged up on and it cant dig out of a serious quality tarpit. ive faced it before and tbh its not that bad, one other way to dismantle it is to bring power dice and some lascannons as eventually you will fail a LOS and it will overmatch their toughness forcing ID. when the inquisitor is in the grav the centurions dont have a prayer. with powerdice piled high you cant get magic off often enough for it to be reliable.
i actually did this recently i had coteaz get wasted by dropping four lascannons in a row which he LOS'd onto the centurions but eventually failed one, he instagibbed and that was the end of the deathstar. i followed up with multi-charging him with a dwcs and some veterans and that was the end of that. powerfists and storm shields solve everything and when you have the MHoC rolling high that day not much you can do
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/12/30 20:44:08
DA army: 3500pts,
admech army: 600pts
ravenguard: 565 pts
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2014/12/30 22:59:50
Subject: Assaulting out of Deepstrike, Epic game changer or Mehh?
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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It would make Warptalons worth the cost, and fit the fluff for them. Maybe only give it to a few units that have high costs?
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2014/12/31 05:15:56
Subject: Assaulting out of Deepstrike, Epic game changer or Mehh?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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koooaei wrote: AlmightyWalrus wrote: koooaei wrote: Kavish wrote:The new Blood Angels Formation is crazy powerful. Not auto-win because of the points cost of 3 stormravens and 3 tac squads. But in 2000 pts your opponent could have 3 Death Company units in their face turn 1! You can kiss your 3 best units goodbye! If you spread them out though (when on the receiving end) only 1 of said units would disappear. The formation forces the deep strikers to arrive close together.
turn 2
No, turn 1. The formation starts reserve rolls immediately.
Tacticals inside are still not allowed to assault turn 1. And stuff that deepstrikes can't arrive turn 1. Unless they get some other formation with turn 1 arrival which i'm not aware of. I'm not sure about the pods though.
The Formation lets the Stormravens roll for reserves turn 1. Then you drop pod assault death company in and they use the formation's teleport homers to assault the turn they arrive.
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