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 BrookM wrote:
Skitarii do vary from forge world to forge world.

Well yes, sure, I'm just saying I'd have preferred the more aggressive aesthetic to Scions-in-hooded-tabards(hey, cut me some slack, not every release is as easy to take the piss out of as "Dinobots" ).

Having read the Mars series I didn't get a Barbarian vibe from the Skitarri. Sure, a purpose built for war and violence, but not a wild barbarian feel.

Here is a pic without the iphone thingamajigs

And if there is one thing Mars is known for is putting everyone in red robes.

You know it's almost like they were some kind of cult.

Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the nickname of the planet?

 Yodhrin wrote:
Seems I'm in the minority then; I was really hoping they'd go with the more interesting techno-barbarian built-for-war angle on Skitarii from the Titanicus and ...of Mars novels, the totally-not-Vostroyans-with-hoods-honest-guv look is just disappointing.

Don't worry According to Lords of Wargaming, there will be two Tempestus-like book releases each accompanied by new models before AdMech hits in May. That's plenty of release space for a variety of styles.

What we see now is only the first book

 BrookM wrote:
Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the nickname of the planet?

What? The blue planet? I don't see a connection... maybe Tau related...

On another note didn't the early rumors talk about a bipedal walker with the crew strapped to the front? I commented that it sounded more like a Penitent Engine but was "corrected" and shown the errors of my ways...

That cover IS sexy as feth. I really can't wait for better pictures, the Tempestus Scions kit is beautiful, the masked heads some of my favorites, I really want to see what they did with the Skitarii.

I suppose if you wanted to mix things up a bit you could buy some tech thralls or Solar Auxilia to vary the appearance of them. Also I should point out that we've seen ONE model from the box of TEN. So, lets dial the mardy comments back until we see the whole kit.

Hmmm. I feel like I have to say this way too often on here lol.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
And if there is one thing Mars is known for is putting everyone in red robes.

You know it's almost like they were some kind of cult.

IIRC they can also be white robes from the older fluff...............

 BrookM wrote:
Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the nickname of the planet?

Gee, that would be a real coinkydink.

Seriously, I don't get the complaints about the idea of models in robes. That's something that the Mechanicus is really known for. I mean look that the DH Lathe Worlds books, it's all robes on the Mechanicus classes.

The Skitarii to me in all the novels I've read seem to be huge muscle bound techno barbarian looking people but utterly ruthless and chocabloc full of stimm injectors, mechanical add on's and lights for eyes. Heck even the ones from whatshername's forge in the HH novel Mechanicus were brutal and she was more of a "keep things normal but under the covers the thing in question will be utterly deadly" approach, the image we've seen literally just seems like a slighty more techy guardsman in my eyes...

But again as releases go this is just one model so I shall be holding full judgment until we see everything I.E the whole sprues and the 360 views, cause more often than not that has saved things.

Editied as I derped and forgot to finish it!

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
On another note didn't the early rumors talk about a bipedal walker with the crew strapped to the front? I commented that it sounded more like a Penitent Engine but was "corrected" and shown the errors of my ways...

Still a chance of that being a thing. Could be the alternate kit option for the Dunecrawler.


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 tomball0706 wrote:
The Skitarii to me in all the novels I've read seem to be huge muscle bound techno barbarian looking people but utterly ruthless and chocabloc full of stimm injectors, mechanical add on's and lights for eyes. Heck even the ones from whatshername's forge in the HH novel Mechanicus were brutal and she was more of a "keep things normal but under the covers the thing in question will be utterly deadly" approach, the image we've seen literally just seems like a slighty more techy guardsman in my eyes...

But again as releases go this is just one model so I shall be holding full judgment until we see everything I.E the whole sprues and the 360 views, cause more often than not that has saved things.

Editied as I derped and forgot to finish it!

Even if they're just a techno Guardsman remember that even if they are muscle bound, they're not as big as Marines are, so would just come across as extra buff humans.

Honestly I think we're just arguing taste here, which is never a good thing.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
That cover IS sexy as feth. I really can't wait for better pictures, the Tempestus Scions kit is beautiful, the masked heads some of my favorites, I really want to see what they did with the Skitarii.

It's a bit unfortunate that whoever is their cover artist ATM has a tendency to avoid drawing faces. Most of the covers so far have goggles/helmets, I think it takes away from the vibe.

The AM cover would look ace if the skitarii had a bit of face showing underneath the mechanical bits - now he looks more like a robot. Showing an angry berserker face have been fitting for the Khorne codex, as well.

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 tomball0706 wrote:
The Skitarii to me in all the novels I've read seem to be huge muscle bound techno barbarian looking people but utterly ruthless and chocabloc full of stimm injectors, mechanical add on's and lights for eyes. Heck even the ones from whatshername's forge in the HH novel Mechanicus were brutal and she was more of a "keep things normal but under the covers the thing in question will be utterly deadly" approach, the image we've seen literally just seems like a slighty more techy guardsman in my eyes...

But again as releases go this is just one model so I shall be holding full judgment until we see everything I.E the whole sprues and the 360 views, cause more often than not that has saved things.

Editied as I derped and forgot to finish it!

Even if they're just a techno Guardsman remember that even if they are muscle bound, they're not as big as Marines are, so would just come across as extra buff humans.

Is it me or does the walker look more like one of the listening post turrets from Dawn of War, given legs?

Cause it looks more like that, then it does a Defiler. Still Defiler's are awesome so...we will see.

 tomball0706 wrote:

I've always imagined that they were space marine height or just under? About 6ft 5 if not higher as isn't that he general consensus for SM height?

According to Goodwin average Marine height is 7ft, plus they're quite broadly built as well. A Marine is a wall of muscle while a 7' person, even a muscle bound one, wouldn't be able to match that.

 tomball0706 wrote:
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I've always imagined that they were space marine height or just under? About 6ft 5 if not higher as isn't that he general consensus for SM height?

Space marines are around about 8ft, but the models are considerably shorter, which is why true-scale is a thing,

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 tomball0706 wrote:
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 tomball0706 wrote:
The Skitarii to me in all the novels I've read seem to be huge muscle bound techno barbarian looking people but utterly ruthless and chocabloc full of stimm injectors, mechanical add on's and lights for eyes. Heck even the ones from whatshername's forge in the HH novel Mechanicus were brutal and she was more of a "keep things normal but under the covers the thing in question will be utterly deadly" approach, the image we've seen literally just seems like a slighty more techy guardsman in my eyes...

But again as releases go this is just one model so I shall be holding full judgment until we see everything I.E the whole sprues and the 360 views, cause more often than not that has saved things.

Editied as I derped and forgot to finish it!

Even if they're just a techno Guardsman remember that even if they are muscle bound, they're not as big as Marines are, so would just come across as extra buff humans.

I've always imagined that they were space marine height or just under? About 6ft 5 if not higher as isn't that he general consensus for SM height?

According to Goodwin average Marine height is 7ft, plus they're quite broadly built as well. A Marine is a wall of muscle while a 7' person, even a muscle bound one, wouldn't be able to match that.

Nosebiter wrote:
Well that was disapointing after all the wait.

A box on defiler legs.

Where is all the mechanicus weirdness, the fusion between man and machine. Where is all the mechandrites and weird guns?

Forgeworld.

 tomball0706 wrote:
But the Skitarii are as close to humans as space marines are, don't they spend years being injected with chemicals and the lot and on top of that all the mechanical improvements to me would make them as physically imposing as a space marine?

Not really. Your typical Skitarri is still smaller than Marines in every instance I've ever seen them in the fluff.

And a Marine is chosen prior to puberty and ends up much more massive than a Skitarri because of it. Skitarri don't benefit from that. Flipside is Skitarri have a lower attrition rate on new recruits.


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DaddyWarcrimes wrote:

Nosebiter wrote:
Well that was disapointing after all the wait.

A box on defiler legs.

Where is all the mechanicus weirdness, the fusion between man and machine. Where is all the mechandrites and weird guns?

Forgeworld.

We don't know what the alternate walker or the Ranger (or if that was a Ranger, the Vanguard) options look like yet though, so I wouldn't rule out possible weirdness yet.

And the guns are likely to be weird, as are character/HQ models. I don't expect Skitarri to have mechandrites or the really weird stuff though.

Also definitely have my fingers crossed for Mechancium stuff to become available for use in an Ad Mech army just because that'd really help flesh out the size of the force you can play with.

That Admech walker is a big letdown. With all the great art out there for 20+ years for Ad Mech including some blanche stuff that generally I don't like but works for Admech, they came up with what a 10 years old novice to the hobby would build while kitbashing a sentinel and a defiler if he didn't have the complete kits to make either. I hope that's not a heavy stubber on the top cupola; if they're the guardians of the lost tech secrets of Mars, I'd hope they'd be able to outfit their vehicles with something more advanced than a necromunda ganger could get. I'm not particularly a fan of the FW HH Mech stuff but at least it has some style and obvious thought put into the retrofuture Flash Gordon look. I know GW proper only occasionally follows FW's lead (like with the valkyrie) but you'd think they'd want the first tech plastic kit to at least somewhat visually match what their subsidiary has been putting out for a couple of years.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
The 2 (tiny) model pics from Warseer:




Unsure whether the robed guy is going to be a Skitarii/Tribune or a Tech Priest... Probably a Skitarii/Tribune though.

And that walker looks to be the size of a defiler.

The Skitarii is about what was to be expected. I can't complain there.

The walker... The turret just doesn't fit. I'm guessing this is the sorta heavier sentinel type walker that was rumored. I think the turret would be ok if it was an IG vehicle but I was thinking something different for the Mechanicus. I didn't even expect the bottles of liquid and cables prevelant in the art... This is the first we've seen of the Skitarii and it's important to remember they are the Skitarii and not really the techpriests portion of the Mechanicus. It make sense they'd look more standardized and less experimental.

 aka_mythos wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
The 2 (tiny) model pics from Warseer:




Unsure whether the robed guy is going to be a Skitarii/Tribune or a Tech Priest... Probably a Skitarii/Tribune though.

And that walker looks to be the size of a defiler.

The Skitarii is about what was to be expected. I can't complain there.

The walker... The turret just doesn't fit. I'm guessing this is the sorta heavier sentinel type walker that was rumored. I think the turret would be ok if it was an IG vehicle but I was thinking something different for the Mechanicus. I didn't even expect the bottles of liquid and cables prevelant in the art... This is the first we've seen of the Skitarii and it's important to remember they are the Skitarii and not really the techpriests portion of the Mechanicus. It make sense they'd look more standardized and less experimental.

I can get behind that, but it feels a little too uniform to me...but, it does provide for good conversion opportunities.

As long as the infantry look good, i don't care about the walker.

I can always build something to use-as or convert it into something i like better.

I don't like mechanical walkers with a lot of legs, unless it is an AT-AT. I don't like the Defiler as-is either; i put that torso on tracks instead.

So is there actually going to be an AdMech book or is it just going to be a Skitarii release?

Also, do you guys think there's a chance the Forgeworld Mechanicum models will see rules for use in 40k alongside these guys? Would be pretty cool to get some of those Thallax or Castellax models.

Requizen wrote:
So is there actually going to be an AdMech book or is it just going to be a Skitarii release?

Hopefully both! Rumour is two books.

Requizen wrote:
Also, do you guys think there's a chance the Forgeworld Mechanicum models will see rules for use in 40k alongside these guys? Would be pretty cool to get some of those Thallax or Castellax models.

No. They've said they'll remain separate.

Requizen wrote:
So is there actually going to be an AdMech book or is it just going to be a Skitarii release?

Also, do you guys think there's a chance the Forgeworld Mechanicum models will see rules for use in 40k alongside these guys? Would be pretty cool to get some of those Thallax or Castellax models.

They didn't choose to do so with most other stuff (FW tau stuff with the codex redo? Nope.. Orks? Nope... Marines? Nope... IG? A little). I'd say it's unlikely that the standalone codex will include much beyond just a small handful of GW plastic kit rules judging from the stormtrooper and harlequin books.

Now that I'm thinking about this, what is the reason for two books? Are they going the Militarum Tempestus route and just tossing out a garbage codex so they can bank an extra $50 off people making AM armies or is there potentially something more there? The only thing I could think of that *might* be valid is Dark Mechanicus, but after the no-Chaos-Knights decision, I'm not confident that is the direction they are going.