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 BrookM wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
There is also something for Solar Auxilia from Forgeworld in this issue.

TELL ME! I MUST KNOW!

Found that page from the upcoming WD online today. Wrong thread but you asked so why not answering here? I guess these models have already been seen, haven't they?

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I just realized that if I wanted to use those as Penitent Engines to convert and save a few dollars, I might as well buy a Penitent Engine. They are 15$ cheaper. I'm shocked!

Do we actually know what the size comparison is though? From what Ive seen, the Ironstrider/Dragoon Look quite a bit bigger than the penitent engine. I feel like the major issue on this model for me is the price vs the points cost. Looking at the model itself, the the $49 price tag doesnt seem to out of line with how a lot of other similarly sized models are priced. Where I have trouble is the point cost. Its just a lot of money for an inexpensive unit.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Whilst I do like them, I think they are maybe a little bit 'too clean' for my liking... It may be the paint job though, I'm sure they will look outstanding when some of the better painters on here get hold of them.

My only other slight criticism is that they are a little bit too uniformed (linked back to being clean) and robotic for my liking in the skitari themselves. The walker is outstanding and everything that the should look like, but the messed up forging of flesh and metal should be shown in the skitari themselves, not jus looking like they are wearing a suit and in that back to the uniformed clean look, one should have a bionic leg whilst another shouldn't etc.

I know what you mean, I also need flesh and metal. I think you have to remember these are just part of the mechanicus Militaris, and these would be the ones normally designated hypapsists. The most "guard" like unit type in the Militaris. The good old flesh and metal mashup would be more eminent in praetorians and gunservitors (herakli). If those unit types will be part of the release is a different matter though - they should if GW wants to field a genuine Skitarii force but you never know. We'd also need Secutor Magi and sagittarii BTW - so get on with the codex release GW!!!!

Some one requested the decal:

 Manus wrote:

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Whilst I do like them, I think they are maybe a little bit 'too clean' for my liking... It may be the paint job though, I'm sure they will look outstanding when some of the better painters on here get hold of them.

My only other slight criticism is that they are a little bit too uniformed (linked back to being clean) and robotic for my liking in the skitari themselves. The walker is outstanding and everything that the should look like, but the messed up forging of flesh and metal should be shown in the skitari themselves, not jus looking like they are wearing a suit and in that back to the uniformed clean look, one should have a bionic leg whilst another shouldn't etc.

I know what you mean, I also need flesh and metal. I think you have to remember these are just part of the mechanicus Militaris, and these would be the ones normally designated hypapsists. The most "guard" like unit type in the Militaris. The good old flesh and metal mashup would be more eminent in praetorians and gunservitors (herakli). If those unit types will be part of the release is a different matter though - they should if GW wants to field a genuine Skitarii force but you never know. We'd also need Secutor Magi and sagittarii BTW - so get on with the codex release GW!!!!

Some one requested the decal:

*Puts Mechanicus Illuminati symbol on everything

 Dramagod2 wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I just realized that if I wanted to use those as Penitent Engines to convert and save a few dollars, I might as well buy a Penitent Engine. They are 15$ cheaper. I'm shocked!

Do we actually know what the size comparison is though? From what Ive seen, the Ironstrider/Dragoon Look quite a bit bigger than the penitent engine. I feel like the major issue on this model for me is the price vs the points cost. Looking at the model itself, the the $49 price tag doesnt seem to out of line with how a lot of other similarly sized models are priced. Where I have trouble is the point cost. Its just a lot of money for an inexpensive unit.

I know they are not aligned with the titan, but from this they look somewhat bigger than a dread/pentinent engine. I saw someone say they are the size of GK knight, I have no idea if they are right though.

Someone mentioned that the crab walker looks similar to the soulgrinder/defiler. Maybe we are seeing that it is the unit that those chaos models are based off of for size.

Also those walkers look huge, price point makes a little more sense

Oh you know that that Illuminati symbol will be everywhere

I need me a sheet of them decals for sure.

 BrookM wrote:
I need me a sheet of them decals for sure.

Well hopefully we get something in the walkers and Skittari. I cant justify 8 quid ( i think) on a sheet that ill only use one type from.

migooo wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I need me a sheet of them decals for sure.

Well hopefully we get something in the walkers and Skittari. I cant justify 8 quid ( i think) on a sheet that ill only use one type from.

Once again...
This is looking to be the exact same situation as what we saw with the Imperial Knights book. They had a "generic" transfer sheet that comes in the box and a more in-depth sheet that was available only from the webstore.

The second sheet was almost on par with a Forge World offering.

 Kanluwen wrote:

migooo wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I need me a sheet of them decals for sure.

Well hopefully we get something in the walkers and Skittari. I cant justify 8 quid ( i think) on a sheet that ill only use one type from.

Once again...
This is looking to be the exact same situation as what we saw with the Imperial Knights book. They had a "generic" transfer sheet that comes in the box and a more in-depth sheet that was available only from the webstore.

The second sheet was almost on par with a Forge World offering.

I didn't deny this however I only like the look of some, and it would be a waste.

just got the news that I received a scholarship of several thousands dollars. I wonder if they would still give it to me if they knew how it will be wasted on plastic little men.

this release is spectacular so far. Can't wait to see the rest of it.

and if the rumoured genestealer cult is as good as this, i'll probably need to re-start my career as a hitman to be able to afford all the little plastic men i'll need to be happy.

The price for the walkers seems fair given the size of them. I mean a carnifex is $45.00. Sure it is a better model for the game, but they are similar in size. Sometimes GW overprices stuff like Sisters of Slaughter being twice the price of a similar sized kit like Dark Eldar wyches, but this price seems appropriate even if you are paying close to a $1.00 per point.

One nice thing I just noticed with the new models is that they haven't plastered every surface with mechanicus logos. Though I will be buying some of these specifically for mechanicus, as someone who loves converting things this is very good. I rather dislike having to file of dozens of the insignias most recent models are covered in...

nudibranch wrote:
One nice thing I just noticed with the new models is that they haven't plastered every surface with mechanicus logos. Though I will be buying some of these specifically for mechanicus, as someone who loves converting things this is very good. I rather dislike having to file of dozens of the insignias most recent models are covered in...

Indeed if somebody wanted to do a DM version it would be fairly simple to do so. as you would just need to do some points and horns on the skull part.

I'm growing quite a fondness for those walkers, actually.
They remind me a bit of Dune, for some reason.

Also, I'm a sucker for walkers. I just like the idea of a tank on legs.

That looks like another gun type on the walker. Doesn't look like the mentioned autocannons or lascannons.

Was there a third option I missed?

Huh, dragoon on the left seems to have the jezzail.

 Medium of Death wrote:
That looks like another gun type on the walker. Doesn't look like the mentioned autocannons or lascannons.

Was there a third option I missed?

Yeah, the dragoon can replace his taser lance with a jezzail.
So you can either go stabby or snipey

On the plus side, it seems like it wont take much to magnetize between the dragoon and the ironstrider. Just the arms and head, plus the weapon mount. If it's doable at least that will mitigate the walker cost slightly

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
That looks like another gun type on the walker. Doesn't look like the mentioned autocannons or lascannons.

Was there a third option I missed?

Yeah, the dragoon can replace his taser lance with a jezzail.
So you can either go stabby or snipey

And another weapon too. That phosphorus one.

migooo wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
That looks like another gun type on the walker. Doesn't look like the mentioned autocannons or lascannons.

Was there a third option I missed?

Yeah, the dragoon can replace his taser lance with a jezzail.
So you can either go stabby or snipey

And another weapon too. That phosphorus one.

That one doesn't replace a weapon though.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
The wooden gun really looks like a musket. Although I like the other one.

Yeah. A musket with a PTRS muzzle break, for some reason, despite that it's probably firing lightning or lasers or something.

It's kind of sad. One of the reasons I like the Ad Mech is they they generally look more high tech then the rest of the imperium. Yet here they are using a fething wooden gun. And, with my luck, it's going to turn out to be their best weapon...

The Imperium is a society that doesn't generally understand Tech and is taught to trust tried and tested technology. Older is better, so when they make new tech it is designed to replicate what has gone before. It's why spacehips have cathedrals and flying buttresses on the outside and wooden panelled control panels with brass knobs on!

If I can add these guys to my Chaos force I will be one happy, but broke, man nerd. I may even buy some for some tech cultists to run with a warpsmigh and deamon engines. Oh, the ideas this is putting in my head!

 notprop wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
The wooden gun really looks like a musket. Although I like the other one.

Yeah. A musket with a PTRS muzzle break, for some reason, despite that it's probably firing lightning or lasers or something.

It's kind of sad. One of the reasons I like the Ad Mech is they they generally look more high tech then the rest of the imperium. Yet here they are using a fething wooden gun. And, with my luck, it's going to turn out to be their best weapon...

The Imperium is a society that doesn't generally understand Tech and is taught to trust tried and tested technology. Older is better, so when they make new tech it is designed to replicate what has gone before. It's why spacehips have cathedrals and flying buttresses on the outside and wooden panelled control panels with brass knobs on!

And the wood could be simulated, like certain station wagons, when it actually is metal.

 ProtoClone wrote:

 notprop wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
The wooden gun really looks like a musket. Although I like the other one.

Yeah. A musket with a PTRS muzzle break, for some reason, despite that it's probably firing lightning or lasers or something.

It's kind of sad. One of the reasons I like the Ad Mech is they they generally look more high tech then the rest of the imperium. Yet here they are using a fething wooden gun. And, with my luck, it's going to turn out to be their best weapon...

The Imperium is a society that doesn't generally understand Tech and is taught to trust tried and tested technology. Older is better, so when they make new tech it is designed to replicate what has gone before. It's why spacehips have cathedrals and flying buttresses on the outside and wooden panelled control panels with brass knobs on!

And the wood could be simulated, like certain station wagons, when it actually is metal.

First Mars and other Forge Worlds don't strike me as the type of places that have wood. The use of an exotic material may just be an excercise in producing something bordering on master craftsmanship. Second the Mechanicum are using worshiped archeotech and other ancient templates. So if the pre-Martian humans used wood the Mechanicus would likely keep using wood just to avoid twisting or distorting the machine spirit. Third, maybe it's a super exotic space wood from the core of Million year old trees that are stronger or result in ideal material properties for this design. Fourth maybe it's not suppose to be wood but who ever painted the miniature just painted it that way.... Ya ya ya fantasy, ya ya ya grim dark.

The wood thing doesn't bother me. In the Gaunt's Ghosts novels they talk about the people of Tanith being largely focused on exporting their wood, which is used to make guns and all sorts of stuff throughout the Imperium.

One of the characters even managed to get some of the wood before they left the planet, if I remember rightly.

Yeah, one of the key aspect of the Mechanicus is an obsession with archeotech, ancient relics of the Dark Age of Technology that were often designed to decorative and act as a status symbol. And honestly? IMHO it just simply looks cool.

 scottmmmm wrote:
The wood thing doesn't bother me. In the Gaunt's Ghosts novels they talk about the people of Tanith being largely focused on exporting their wood, which is used to make guns and all sorts of stuff throughout the Imperium.

One of the characters even managed to get some of the wood before they left the planet, if I remember rightly.

Vostroyans have wood stocks for their lasguns as well.