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Codex: Skitarri confirmed by name (thanks to Warseer for spotting it):



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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Yep, but that'd put you at 0/0/1 immediately.

If I add that it will be a multi-part plastic kit with multiple options to choose from, can I get 1/0/0 instead ?

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarri Rangers:

Harnessing the energies of forge worlds within their curious weaponry, the Rangers of the Skitarii are implacable and relentless hunter-killers. For them, an engagement is not over until their enemy is destroyed - even if this means stalking them across galaxies and over decades.

That seems quite un-Mechanicus-like tactics to me. I would have thought them more “In your face”, less “I will kill you. In a decade or too…”.

I think the idea is they will always get their prey, no matter how long it takes.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
I have a Magos (the forge world mechanical slug men thing) and 20 guys that look like the Skitarri Vanguard ish. If I got a walker and a box of rangers would that be a a legal ish force? Or is the Magos dominus or whatever completely different?

the forge world stuff is for 30k. not 40k, we've yet to receive any info on admech HQs. so it's risky. that said I imagine once the 'dex is out and the line is "complete" forge world'll swiftly fill in the gaps

Ok, yea I will wait regardless before doing anything. At worst maybe I can use the magos as a counts as and have a mini force or something.

worst case sceniero there's unbound. no one's going to object if you basicly run an admech CAD with a lone Magos making it unbound

Unbound is fine here, I may end up doing it too. Cheers dude.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Yep, but that'd put you at 0/0/1 immediately.

If I add that it will be a multi-part plastic kit with multiple options to choose from, can I get 1/0/0 instead ?

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarri Rangers:

Harnessing the energies of forge worlds within their curious weaponry, the Rangers of the Skitarii are implacable and relentless hunter-killers. For them, an engagement is not over until their enemy is destroyed - even if this means stalking them across galaxies and over decades.

That seems quite un-Mechanicus-like tactics to me. I would have thought them more “In your face”, less “I will kill you. In a decade or too…”.

Think of the Terminator.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Codex: Skitarri confirmed by name (thanks to Warseer for spotting it):



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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Yep, but that'd put you at 0/0/1 immediately.

If I add that it will be a multi-part plastic kit with multiple options to choose from, can I get 1/0/0 instead ?

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Adeptus Mechanicus Skitarri Rangers:

Harnessing the energies of forge worlds within their curious weaponry, the Rangers of the Skitarii are implacable and relentless hunter-killers. For them, an engagement is not over until their enemy is destroyed - even if this means stalking them across galaxies and over decades.

That seems quite un-Mechanicus-like tactics to me. I would have thought them more “In your face”, less “I will kill you. In a decade or too…”.

I think the idea is they will always get their prey, no matter how long it takes.

Does this mean that it will come with enough special weapons to make any type of weapon combination (like 3 plasma weapons?)?

 Swastakowey wrote:
Does this mean that it will come with enough special weapons to make any type of weapon combination (like 3 plasma weapons?)?

Somehow I doubt it because there is only one of each on the sprues.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
I have a Magos (the forge world mechanical slug men thing) and 20 guys that look like the Skitarri Vanguard ish. If I got a walker and a box of rangers would that be a a legal ish force? Or is the Magos dominus or whatever completely different?

the forge world stuff is for 30k. not 40k, we've yet to receive any info on admech HQs. so it's risky. that said I imagine once the 'dex is out and the line is "complete" forge world'll swiftly fill in the gaps

Ok, yea I will wait regardless before doing anything. At worst maybe I can use the magos as a counts as and have a mini force or something.

worst case sceniero there's unbound. no one's going to object if you basicly run an admech CAD with a lone Magos making it unbound

That is, if your group allows 30k models. I don't even know what a Magos does and how it would interact with AdMech though.

Isnt that blurb incorrect then? Since I am unable to make anyb combination allowed? Since it doesnt come with the required bits? I thought it was illegal to do things like that?

Unless you are willing to supply the advertised contents etc.


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Requizen wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
I have a Magos (the forge world mechanical slug men thing) and 20 guys that look like the Skitarri Vanguard ish. If I got a walker and a box of rangers would that be a a legal ish force? Or is the Magos dominus or whatever completely different?

the forge world stuff is for 30k. not 40k, we've yet to receive any info on admech HQs. so it's risky. that said I imagine once the 'dex is out and the line is "complete" forge world'll swiftly fill in the gaps

Ok, yea I will wait regardless before doing anything. At worst maybe I can use the magos as a counts as and have a mini force or something.

worst case sceniero there's unbound. no one's going to object if you basicly run an admech CAD with a lone Magos making it unbound

That is, if your group allows 30k models. I don't even know what a Magos does and how it would interact with AdMech though.

I can use what I want really. Ultimately its just another model. It all depends on the codex anyway. I hate finding FW rules etc, a real pain.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Yep, but that'd put you at 0/0/1 immediately.

If I add that it will be a multi-part plastic kit with multiple options to choose from, can I get 1/0/0 instead ?

Nope. 0 True 0 False 1 Too Vague

they have the bundle up on the GW site now,

10 skitari is 50$ apprx,

the bundle is two squads of ten + transfer sheet (slightly bigger one then what you get from the single box)

for ~125$...


am i missing something? is the bundle just paying an extra 25$ for a transfer sheet?

There's a paint pot. It's the same price as normal.

Does anyone else find it interesting that the new minis are under a new 'Adeptus Mechanicus' tab and not one titiled 'Skitari' on the GW webstore? (unlike like IG and MT)

I think GW may have unwittingly confirmed that there's going to be a proper AdMech codex...

 easysauce wrote:
they have the bundle up on the GW site now,

10 skitari is 50$ apprx,

the bundle is two squads of ten + transfer sheet (slightly bigger one then what you get from the single box)

for ~125$...


am i missing something? is the bundle just paying an extra 25$ for a transfer sheet?

Web Bundles are never deals afaik. They are thoughtful shortcuts for GWs many clients that pay for internet access on a per mouse click basis.

WTF! there's only one transuranic arcquebus in the box !? I wanted to have 3 of those in my 10 man ranger squad :(

 RedFox wrote:
WTF! there's only one transuranic arcquebus in the box !? I wanted to have 3 of those in my 10 man ranger squad :(

Buy the rip off bundle, then complain to GW because it did not have the components to make "(enough to make any combination allowed for in Codex: Skitarii)" and get stuff.

 Swastakowey wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
WTF! there's only one transuranic arcquebus in the box !? I wanted to have 3 of those in my 10 man ranger squad :(

Buy the rip off bundle, then complain to GW because it did not have the components to make "(enough to make any combination allowed for in Codex: Skitarii)" and get stuff.

Yeah I don't think that will work. You can make any combination, just only one of each.

 RedFox wrote:
WTF! there's only one transuranic arcquebus in the box !? I wanted to have 3 of those in my 10 man ranger squad :(

Welcome to the magical world of kitbashing and 3rd party proxy bits.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
WTF! there's only one transuranic arcquebus in the box !? I wanted to have 3 of those in my 10 man ranger squad :(

Buy the rip off bundle, then complain to GW because it did not have the components to make "(enough to make any combination allowed for in Codex: Skitarii)" and get stuff.

Yeah I don't think that will work. You can make any combination, just only one of each.

That wouldn't be "any combination" though, one of each is a single combination. For them to be able to make any combination, they would need to include as many of each weapon option as can be taken.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
WTF! there's only one transuranic arcquebus in the box !? I wanted to have 3 of those in my 10 man ranger squad :(

Buy the rip off bundle, then complain to GW because it did not have the components to make "(enough to make any combination allowed for in Codex: Skitarii)" and get stuff.

Yeah I don't think that will work. You can make any combination, just only one of each.

Thats not any combination though it it?

Any combination allowed for, means you should be able to make a 3 plasma gun combination of weapons.

Its a big deal really, companies cannot advertise falsely and if they do, they must provide what was advertised. In this case, they would need to supply you with enough parts for every combination as advertised, or you did not get what you paid for.

Yeah I know that, but I just found a possible loophole, and I'm a 19 year old kid. I'm sure a lawyer would be able to talk their way out of it easily enough. You're not gonna get stuff because there's only one of each gun on the sprue.

Wasn't that always the case of GW sprues? That they don't have all the options?

I suppose you could cannibalize the guns from other sets.
Get 3 boxes, and you can have 3 of those rifles. Which is probably what GW was planning.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Yeah I know that, but I just found a possible loophole, and I'm a 19 year old kid. I'm sure a lawyer would be able to talk their way out of it easily enough. You're not gonna get stuff because there's only one of each gun on the sprue.

Yes. Its against the law in many countries to falsely advertise. Weather its misleading, has hidden costs or anything deceptive.

They must include what they say they include.

So by bringing it up to them, they will have to compensate to ensure you got what you paid for and then they would likely change the blurb ASAP. But anybody who purchased it when the blurb is as is will not be getting what they paid for. Which is illegal. Well it is here in NZ anyway.

It's hardly deceptive when they have the photos of the sprues on the website.

 ImAGeek wrote:
It's hardly deceptive when they have the photos of the sprues on the website.

It is deceptive. They cant say they offer something, then say "you could have checked the product to see if we are lying to you first" to get out of it.

It is definitely illegal.

Unless of course, they add in all the options if you buy the bundle. Or the codex states you may only take one of each weapon.

Not really. Its fuzzy.
Do they flat out say that there are X number of gear per set?
"Any combination" isn't a really clear basis for a court case.

Seriously, they literally show you everything you get. The blurb might be a little deceptive but good luck actually getting anything to stick. It's also pretty clearly not deliberate, just poor wording. They mean you can make any of the different combinations, just not multiples of each.


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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Not really. Its fuzzy.
Do they flat out say that there are X number of gear per set?
"Any combination" isn't a really clear basis for a court case.

Exactly.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Not really. Its fuzzy.
Do they flat out say that there are X number of gear per set?
"Any combination" isn't a really clear basis for a court case.

It is, they say the item you are purchasing can be set up to contain any combination in the codex.

Does it come with 6 of each special weapon? If not, it doesn't fit what they are advertising. I have then been mislead to believe I can do what the product says when it cannot do it. This is not unreasonable for someone to think after carefully looking at what they are about to buy.

I mean, its only some plastic, it doesnt matter at the end of the day (ish), but they cant do that. No company can do that. Here anyway. I know, its my job to make sure the people where I work dont put up stupid mistakes in our advertising that could cost us thousands (if a price has been stuffed up, or no end of sale date supplied for example).

I guess the bitz will show up on ebay in a couple of weeks....

So excited that this actually happened. Great work Gdubs!

 RedFox wrote:
I guess the bitz will show up on ebay in a couple of weeks....

You could always trade for the ones you don't want on here.

 RedFox wrote:
I guess the bitz will show up on ebay in a couple of weeks....

You have nothing to lose by asking for what they said you will receive. Laws like this are to make sure companies are careful to make sure the consumer is not in any way ripped off or mislead. They are there FOR YOU to get what you pay for. It applies to anything a company sells you.

If someone did this on Ebay, would you not query them or report it to Ebay when you got the package without all the contents? Why should GW be exempt from this?

This is what the NZ page on the matter says:

The Fair Trading Act applies to anyone in trade – from big organisations like hotel chains, airlines and department stores, to small or temporary businesses like a souvenir stall or ice cream stand.

The Act makes it illegal for businesses to mislead
consumers, give false information, or use unfair trading practices.

The Fair Trading Act covers:

all aspects of the promotion and sale of goods and services
anything said about a product or service, either verbally or in writing
any impressions given by pictures, advertisements, or promotional material.

Ultimately, its up to whoever buys this to do whatever. But usually big companies are really strict on this sort of thing.