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Surely they would put a Knight as a LoW option in AdMech, though a seperate detachment with one IK makes pretty much no difference.

 Rippy wrote:
Surely they would put a Knight as a LoW option in AdMech, though a seperate detachment with one IK makes pretty much no difference.

with the way Knights work there's no reason to make Knights a LOW choice as no one with a Knight would bother wasting a LOW slot on a Knight when they could just take a Knight detachment.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
Surely they would put a Knight as a LoW option in AdMech, though a seperate detachment with one IK makes pretty much no difference.

with the way Knights work there's no reason to make Knights a LOW choice as no one with a Knight would bother wasting a LOW slot on a Knight when they could just take a Knight detachment.

A knight as a Lord of War would add percieved value to the Admech codex by iving it a lord of war model that fluff and mechanically fits perfectly in the role. It would also reduce the number of books needed to play the army (which may be an argument against the likelyhood of the idea, but I digress), and they could expand on the Knight, perhaps giving it access to pieces of wargear from the mechanicum list.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
Surely they would put a Knight as a LoW option in AdMech, though a seperate detachment with one IK makes pretty much no difference.

with the way Knights work there's no reason to make Knights a LOW choice as no one with a Knight would bother wasting a LOW slot on a Knight when they could just take a Knight detachment.

A knight as a Lord of War would add percieved value to the Admech codex by iving it a lord of war model that fluff and mechanically fits perfectly in the role. It would also reduce the number of books needed to play the army (which may be an argument against the likelyhood of the idea, but I digress), and they could expand on the Knight, perhaps giving it access to pieces of wargear from the mechanicum list.

The latter would imply new bits, which I just don't see them doing, and there have been no rumors to support that at all.. the last that we had was the rumor that Forgeworld was coming out with Knight bits, and that kinda came and went.

drbored wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
Surely they would put a Knight as a LoW option in AdMech, though a seperate detachment with one IK makes pretty much no difference.

with the way Knights work there's no reason to make Knights a LOW choice as no one with a Knight would bother wasting a LOW slot on a Knight when they could just take a Knight detachment.

A knight as a Lord of War would add percieved value to the Admech codex by iving it a lord of war model that fluff and mechanically fits perfectly in the role. It would also reduce the number of books needed to play the army (which may be an argument against the likelyhood of the idea, but I digress), and they could expand on the Knight, perhaps giving it access to pieces of wargear from the mechanicum list.

The latter would imply new bits, which I just don't see them doing, and there have been no rumors to support that at all.. the last that we had was the rumor that Forgeworld was coming out with Knight bits, and that kinda came and went.

depends on what gear you give it. Maybe its a special lubricant that allows the Knight to move an extra inch per turn

thing is Knights DON'T fit as LOWs for the admech. they're not part of the admech. I could however see GW taking the oppertunity to update the rules for titans by sliding em into the admech book as LOWs

Wasn't there some mention of Ordinatus being released? A giant AdMech artillery piece would fit better as a LOW.

BlackSanguinor wrote:
Wasn't there some mention of Ordinatus being released? A giant AdMech artillery piece would fit better as a LOW.

For FW Mechanicum that is.

Perhaps the tech priests can "summon" an imperial knight.
Discard a vehicle of choise within 6" and replace it with an imperial knight.
"look, I builded something!"

Edit: Im not serious though, just having fun, thinking about the daemonkin thing

There are two hints about the upcoming Codex. In the GW webshop product description for the Skitarii infantry web-bundle (pointed out earlier in this thread), it mentions a Codex: Skitarii. And in the new videos released today (WarhammerTV youtube channel) at the end the title calls them Warhammer 40,000 - Adeptus Mechanicus - Skitarii in the same way they did with Eldar - Harlequins. Skitarii don't have their own webshop tab though, instead it is Adeptus Mechanicus and not Skitarii. GW's no-information about future products policy is a huge pile of gak

Warhams-77 wrote:
GW's no-information about future products policy is a huge pile of gak

Really? That's your take away from this? "Nuh-uh! They do give information away!".

AHAHAHA!

If there is going to be a Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus further down the line, does that mean Codex: Skitarii is essentially pointless and just for those who can't wait?

I'll just get the models to begin with lol.

Yeah the whole AdMech tab thing on the webstore makes me feel a lot more confident about a proper codex being a thing (and not just a Skitarii minidex)

Bell of Lost Souls just reported a rumour of 3 AdMech books being released. That could be interesting.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Yeah the whole AdMech tab thing on the webstore makes me feel a lot more confident about a proper codex being a thing (and not just a Skitarii minidex)

Just the usual GW sleeziness really; those "in-the-know" when the Stormtrooper book came out knew the Guard one would be right around the corner because they we already had pictures of other Guard mdoels being released. As this is a whole new army, we don't really know the timescale; will a full ad-mech codex come out two weeks after Skitarii, 6 months or will there be multiple mini-dexes for some time and eventually a main book? GW doesn't provide any answers in hoping you BUY ALL THE THINGS.

Frankly, they can go suck a goat. I would just use the leaked rules online and wait to see what they do, rather than invest in $50 codexes which could become obsolete in days.

That'd be pretty similar to what they did with Militarum Tempestus, no? Everyone was saying that they'd have taken stormtroopers out of the Imperial Guard book, and then when it came along, there they were... the benefit from the Militarum Tempestus book was warlord traits and datasheets, so I'm expecting a similar trick here - the Skitarri codex will have rules for this stuff in, and some warlord traits and stuff, and then an AdMech codex later with less of a Skitarri focus.

*edit* yeah, kind of like what MajorStoffer said, except the MT book does have some benefits of its own if you want a full scion army.

 MajorStoffer wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Yeah the whole AdMech tab thing on the webstore makes me feel a lot more confident about a proper codex being a thing (and not just a Skitarii minidex)

Just the usual GW sleeziness really; those "in-the-know" when the Stormtrooper book came out knew the Guard one would be right around the corner because they we already had pictures of other Guard mdoels being released. As this is a whole new army, we don't really know the timescale; will a full ad-mech codex come out two weeks after Skitarii, 6 months or will there be multiple mini-dexes for some time and eventually a main book? GW doesn't provide any answers in hoping you BUY ALL THE THINGS.

Frankly, they can go suck a goat. I would just use the leaked rules online and wait to see what they do, rather than invest in $50 codexes which could become obsolete in days.

Oh don't worry, there is 0 chance of me getting the Skitarii minidex with a basically-confirmed (for me, at least) AdMech dex around the corner, no matter how far away said corner is.
I honestly doubt it will be that far away, though; it'll probably be 1 month after the Skitarii dex. Any longer and I will be surprised.

 MajorStoffer wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Yeah the whole AdMech tab thing on the webstore makes me feel a lot more confident about a proper codex being a thing (and not just a Skitarii minidex)

Just the usual GW sleeziness really; those "in-the-know" when the Stormtrooper book came out knew the Guard one would be right around the corner because they we already had pictures of other Guard mdoels being released. As this is a whole new army, we don't really know the timescale; will a full ad-mech codex come out two weeks after Skitarii, 6 months or will there be multiple mini-dexes for some time and eventually a main book? GW doesn't provide any answers in hoping you BUY ALL THE THINGS.

Frankly, they can go suck a goat. I would just use the leaked rules online and wait to see what they do, rather than invest in $50 codexes which could become obsolete in days.

eh I'd hold off and wait until we see what the codex is called before we leap to any judgements

Where is the spider tank? I hope it's perpetually powered by orgyns wired together underneath the body.

BrianDavion wrote:
thing is Knights DON'T fit as LOWs for the admech. they're not part of the admech. I could however see GW taking the oppertunity to update the rules for titans by sliding em into the admech book as LOWs

True, but there is a lovely big photo of Skitarii Rangers and vanguard with the Walker and a Knight looming in the background in White Dwarf 61. I think they will fit them in the list in one of the books. I am sure that GW would love selling a load more Knights.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
thing is Knights DON'T fit as LOWs for the admech. they're not part of the admech. I could however see GW taking the oppertunity to update the rules for titans by sliding em into the admech book as LOWs

True, but there is a lovely big photo of Skitarii Rangers and vanguard with the Walker and a Knight looming in the background in White Dwarf 61. I think they will fit them in the list in one of the books. I am sure that GW would love selling a load more Knights.

There's also a shot of the new models side-by-side with Ultramarines Sternguard, a Landraider and a Stormtalon on the back cover of that White Dwarf. Doesn't mean Ultramarine-chapter tactics Sternguard should be in the Codex, or does it?

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

 MajorStoffer wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Yeah the whole AdMech tab thing on the webstore makes me feel a lot more confident about a proper codex being a thing (and not just a Skitarii minidex)

Just the usual GW sleeziness really; those "in-the-know" when the Stormtrooper book came out knew the Guard one would be right around the corner because they we already had pictures of other Guard mdoels being released. As this is a whole new army, we don't really know the timescale; will a full ad-mech codex come out two weeks after Skitarii, 6 months or will there be multiple mini-dexes for some time and eventually a main book? GW doesn't provide any answers in hoping you BUY ALL THE THINGS.

Frankly, they can go suck a goat. I would just use the leaked rules online and wait to see what they do, rather than invest in $50 codexes which could become obsolete in days.

Oh don't worry, there is 0 chance of me getting the Skitarii minidex with a basically-confirmed (for me, at least) AdMech dex around the corner, no matter how far away said corner is.
I honestly doubt it will be that far away, though; it'll probably be 1 month after the Skitarii dex. Any longer and I will be surprised.

Aye, time was I'd just have bought it, but with the prices these days, combined with the really cynical "oh you bought that minidex? SURPRISE, here's another 'dex for you to buy with more options!" thing, I think I'll "borrow" a copy and read it through first - if the fluff is good and the art is interesting, I'll buy one, otherwise GW can sit & spin.

Actually flicking through WD 61 three pages (four including the back cover with the aforementioned Ultramarines) have pictures of either Skitarii or the Dragoon/Ballistarii with Knights looming in the background.

Take that for what you will.

So the hint for next week's WD is "Sneaking around". What do we think that is?

What if the striders just idle, rather than run?

That would make more sense.

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
What if the striders just idle, rather than run?

They explode. They have to stay above 50mph.

It turns out the "never stopping" thing is actually due to a misunderstanding of what perpetual motion is.

Perpetual motion doesn't mean that it has to keep moving; it just means that it is not restricted by friction and does not need an external source of energy.

Which makes a hell lot more sense.

So the thing is a perpetual motion machine? Do GW writers just not care anymore?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
So the thing is a perpetual motion machine? Do GW writers just not care anymore?

Yeah, there's a post about it earlier in this thread.
So GW's writers did not go completely insane.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
So the thing is a perpetual motion machine? Do GW writers just not care anymore?

How do these two statements relate to one another? What's wrong with the AdMech having a perpetual motion machine on one specific type of walker that they cannot replicate nor do they understand?