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So many extra points if all upgrades are free, dirt cheap vanguard/rangers with special weapons if that applies if thats how its reading and ignores get hot lol

 pretre wrote:
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Spoiler:

How hard is it to hold the camera still?

It's a law of the universe. Those who leak cannot take pics worth a damn.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
So many extra points if all upgrades are free, dirt cheap vanguard/rangers with special weapons if that applies if thats how its reading and ignores get hot lol

Free Plasma Calivers for everyone!

So now to figure out the minimum points for that formation.

 pretre wrote:
So now to figure out the minimum points for that formation.

Minimum? Two 5 man units of vanguard, a tech priest, 2 min units of kataphorons and a knight.

Plasma calivers... plasma calivers everywhere...

Is it battle maniple or skitarii maniple? iirc one is the "one of everything" formation and one is the detachment type.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 pretre wrote:
So now to figure out the minimum points for that formation.

Minimum? Two 5 man units of vanguard, a tech priest, 2 min units of kataphorons and a knight.

That's nothing. Yikes.

 obsidiankatana wrote:
Is it battle maniple or skitarii maniple? iirc one is the "one of everything" formation and one is the detachment type.

Oh, that's right. I forgot they used the same name for both... what a pain. If it's the Battle Maniple meh, too many forced points in that one.

 obsidiankatana wrote:
Is it battle maniple or skitarii maniple? iirc one is the "one of everything" formation and one is the detachment type.

God I hope it's the you must take one of everything one. Because the formation is lame in it's overpoweredness otherwise. But who knows it may be the take whatever you want mantiple so GW can sell more stuff.

 obsidiankatana wrote:
Is it battle maniple or skitarii maniple? iirc one is the "one of everything" formation and one is the detachment type.

Battle Maniple, so one of everything.

I assume it means Battle Maniple, so 1x Vanguard, 1x Rangers, 1x Onager, 1x Rustalkers, 1x Infiltrators, 1x Dragoon *or* 1x Ballistarii.

If so bare minimum cost is 600 points for the dragoon or 610 for the Ballistarii *edited for accuracy*

I may well be wrong. But if the options are free everywhere I do not really care!

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I assume it means Battle Maniple, so 1x Vanguard, 1x Rangers, 1x Onager, 1x Rustalkers, 1x Infiltrators, 1x Dragoon and 1x Ballistarii.

If so bare minimum cost is 655 points.

I may well be wrong. But if the options are free everywhere I do not really care!

1x Dragoon or Ballistarii.

nudibranch wrote:
Plasma calivers... plasma calivers everywhere...

Aquebuses on Rangers might ordinarily suck, but for free. They arent bad.


Also triple onager with neutron lasers arent that bad for only 270 points

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I assume it means Battle Maniple, so 1x Vanguard, 1x Rangers, 1x Onager, 1x Rustalkers, 1x Infiltrators, 1x Dragoon and 1x Ballistarii.

If so bare minimum cost is 655 points.

I may well be wrong. But if the options are free everywhere I do not really care!

So:

Battle Maniple:
1x Vanguard, 1x Rangers, 1x Onager, 1x Rustalkers, 1x Infiltrators, 1x Dragoon and 1x Ballistarii. - ~655 Points

plus
a tech priest, 2 min units of kataphorons - ~200-300 points

and a knight. - ~300+

Yikes. Easy to fit that in a list.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I assume it means Battle Maniple, so 1x Vanguard, 1x Rangers, 1x Onager, 1x Rustalkers, 1x Infiltrators, 1x Dragoon and 1x Ballistarii.

I may well be wrong. But if the options are free everywhere I do not really care!

I believe the one of everything is Dragoon or ballistari.

But yea I think the generic mantiple and that specific one are both named the same.

So wait, who gets Volkite?

Please tell me the Electro Priests. I really wanna use them, but they kinda suck.

 obsidiankatana wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I assume it means Battle Maniple, so 1x Vanguard, 1x Rangers, 1x Onager, 1x Rustalkers, 1x Infiltrators, 1x Dragoon and 1x Ballistarii.

If so bare minimum cost is 655 points.

I may well be wrong. But if the options are free everywhere I do not really care!

1x Dragoon or Ballistarii.

Whoops, indeed true. So that drops it to 600 (Dragoon) or 610 points (Ballistarii).

So that makes Pretre's list even cheaper to make. A 1500 point army is easy if the rumours are confirmed.

 pretre wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I assume it means Battle Maniple, so 1x Vanguard, 1x Rangers, 1x Onager, 1x Rustalkers, 1x Infiltrators, 1x Dragoon and 1x Ballistarii.

If so bare minimum cost is 655 points.

I may well be wrong. But if the options are free everywhere I do not really care!

So:

Battle Maniple:
1x Vanguard, 1x Rangers, 1x Onager, 1x Rustalkers, 1x Infiltrators, 1x Dragoon and 1x Ballistarii. - ~655 Points

plus
a tech priest, 2 min units of kataphorons - ~200-300 points

and a knight. - ~300+

Yikes. Easy to fit that in a list.

Min units of Kataphrons are 150 min each, so it'll be more like ~300-400, leaning to 400 since ICs are usually priced that way (especially one with his rules). And only the cheapest knight is 300 points (and considered pretty bad).

So probalby more like 655 + 400 + 370 = ~1425, which is most of a list. But, if you were going to bring those things anyway, then yeah it's fracking awesome.

Mr.Church13 wrote:
So wait, who gets Volkite?

Please tell me the Electro Priests. I really wanna use them, but they kinda suck.

Probably just the Techpriest, maybe the datasmiths (their WD entry does say they can take upgrades from the armoury.)

I'd assume it's going to be something similar for the Cult Mechanicus too so 1 unit of breachers, 1 unit of the grav tread dudes, 1 robot unit, 1 of each electro priest unit, and a dominus. So probably not cheap either.

Well hopefully when the translation comes out itll just be the normal mantiple, the 1 of everything one can add up unless you take minimum unit sizes of everything

Wow this formation is definitely made to sell some models. I might even buy my first White Dwarf if its exclusive to the magazine.

Man my freakin wallet.

Seems like a native french speaker on warseer confirmed the wording is "All options including relics from both books"

Free guns for everybody, free knight carapace upgrades. Crazy

That 'exclusive' formation is such a ridiculous cash grab that I will never field it lol.

I think that Hulksmash may well be correct, if so the Cult Mechanicus will weigh in at 850pts at least (290 Kastelans, 165 Destroyers, 150 Breachers and say at least 250 points for the Electro Priests (maybe 2 types of these, so possibly more?) and Dominus.

Still with the Skitarii Maniple and a Knight you pretty much have a 2000 point army.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Well hopefully when the translation comes out itll just be the normal mantiple, the 1 of everything one can add up unless you take minimum unit sizes of everything

The WD leak says Battle Maniple, so it definitely is one of everything.

nudibranch wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Well hopefully when the translation comes out itll just be the normal mantiple, the 1 of everything one can add up unless you take minimum unit sizes of everything

The WD leak says Battle Maniple, so it definitely is one of everything.

Well that one is slightly meh, I have the units to run it except the infiltrators, but would rather not use them anyways

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

nudibranch wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Well hopefully when the translation comes out itll just be the normal mantiple, the 1 of everything one can add up unless you take minimum unit sizes of everything

The WD leak says Battle Maniple, so it definitely is one of everything.

Well that one is slightly meh, I have the units to run it except the infiltrators, but would rather not use them anyways

True. But if all equipment options on all other units, including relics, etc.. (a relic in each squad?) are free, it more than makes up the points for a squad of infiltrators. And the whole formation gets scout, crusader, and whatnot, no? + Skitarii Doctrina + Cult Mechanicus Canticles. Not too shabby.

Yea, but thats another box of units i'd have to buy lol