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I just copied what I liked from other lists and put all together. This list maybe lacks AA but a single Sicaran plus Tri las pred can handle a moderate amount of flyers.

HQ
Sang. priest (combi-grav, bike) 90 (goes with bike squad)
Librarian (ML.2, P.Axe, jp) 105 (goes with DCx7 squad)

Elites
DCx8 (PF, PS, jp) 224
DCx7 (PF, jp) 186
Furioso (Frag. cannon, HF, Pod) 175

Troops
Tacx5 (HF, combi-fl, LAS/PLAS razorback) 175
Tacx5 (HF, melta bombs, LAS/PLAS razorback) 170

Fast attack
ASMx5 (meltax2, combi-m, Pod) 115
ASMx5 (meltax2, combi-m, Pod) 115
Bike squadx4 (gravx2, combi-grav) 124
MM Attack bike 55

Heavy support
Sicaran (laser sponsons) 175
Predator (Tri Las, overcharged engines) 140

Total: 1849 points

Quite decent armor saturation (3 AV13s), plenty AT, fast, all-rounded list imo. Thoughts?

I prefer the sicaran with the bolters and the monster hunter over the las cannon.

 Icelord wrote:
I prefer the sicaran with the bolters and the monster hunter over the las cannon.

Thats an option to consider but Sicaran purpose in this list is just pure anti-tank (serpent), flyer and MC.

No feedback apart from alt sicaran sponsons?
I can swap heavy support to two ravens with few tweaks whenever complains about FW happen. I like the list as it is, pretty minmaxed, mobile and competitive, regardless.

Looks a good list, but im not familiar with forge world stuff. Perhaps consider replacing a unit (bikers?) for another tactical squad in a razorback or two. This is an option I have been considering (4 5man tactical squads in las/plas razorbacks) This would give you the bonus of more shooting potential from both the razorbacks mounted weapons and the tacticals, as well as more scoring units.


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Alternatively, you could replace the librarian and 7 man death company for the following unit
Dante- 220pts
Sanguinary Guard
5man
Banner, PF, Infernus Pistol
-210pts

if there are any spare points you could add angels wing and valours edge to the priest.
This unit would give you a beast all purpose descent of angels unit with the angels wing also allowing you to re-roll pretty much every reserve and deep striking rolls for the sanguinary guard (on top of dante doa!)


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Alternatively, you could replace the librarian and 7 man death company for the following unit
Dante- 220pts
Sanguinary Guard
5man
Banner, PF, Infernus Pistol
-210pts

if there are any spare points you could add angels wing and valours edge to the priest.
This unit would give you a beast all purpose descent of angels unit with the angels wing also allowing you to re-roll pretty much every reserve and deep striking rolls for the sanguinary guard (on top of dante doa!)

I don't know FW either.

InsTincT_OP wrote:
Looks a good list, but im not familiar with forge world stuff. Perhaps consider replacing a unit (bikers?) for another tactical squad in a razorback or two. This is an option I have been considering (4 5man tactical squads in las/plas razorbacks) This would give you the bonus of more shooting potential from both the razorbacks mounted weapons and the tacticals, as well as more scoring units.


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Alternatively, you could replace the librarian and 7 man death company for the following unit
Dante- 220pts
Sanguinary Guard
5man
Banner, PF, Infernus Pistol
-210pts

if there are any spare points you could add angels wing and valours edge to the priest.
This unit would give you a beast all purpose descent of angels unit with the angels wing also allowing you to re-roll pretty much every reserve and deep striking rolls for the sanguinary guard (on top of dante doa!)

I´ve never tried a bike squad with a priest so that was the main idea for the list. I still find sanguinary guard a luxury that can be replaced (and outperformed) by many goodies that BA have access to. I love Dante tho, but the list doesnt seem to fit him if its not with sanguard.

Fyi Sicaran has these stats:
Base cost is the same as a C:BA “Autolas” Predator
Heavy Support
AV 13/12/12, Fast
Relic of the Armoury (need a Reclusiarch should you want two or more with this rule)
Turret-mounted Twin-linked Accelerator Cannon (48”, STR 7, AP 4, Heavy 6, Rending, Rapid Tracking [no Jink saves allowed])
Heavy Bolter, Extra Armour, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight
Can take Lascannon or Heavy Bolter sponsons, aswell as the usual vehicle upgrades

I don't think you need the attack bike, you have quite a lot of anti tank especially with the grav bike squad.

I would use the points dropped from that to get some more DC (they are gonna attract a lot of fire) or some relics on your guys. Angels Wings would be pretty good on the Libby, assuming the DC are Deep Striking.

I prefer assault cannons on my Razorbacks but that's personal preference due to the higher shots and able to threaten armour and troops.

Remember to take Bolters on your Power Fist DC.

 PastelAvenger wrote:
I don't think you need the attack bike, you have quite a lot of anti tank especially with the grav bike squad.

I would use the points dropped from that to get some more DC (they are gonna attract a lot of fire) or some relics on your guys. Angels Wings would be pretty good on the Libby, assuming the DC are Deep Striking.

I prefer assault cannons on my Razorbacks but that's personal preference due to the higher shots and able to threaten armour and troops.

Remember to take Bolters on your Power Fist DC.

Yeah, although more melta is always nice I think that the attack bike can be dropped. There are plenty units that will attract a lot of fire aside from DC, especially grav bikes, fragioso, Sicaran and tri las pred. Also two fast razorbacks with hf+combi-fl inside and triple melta ASM squads in pods is something to take in mind as well. I usually like las/plas in fast vehicles over AC, I think it makes the best use of them.

I remade the list dropping MM attack bikes and adding two DC marines and angel wings to libby. It looks really sweet.

HQ
Sang. priest (combi-grav, bike) 90 (goes with bike squad)
Librarian (ML.2, P.Axe, Angel wings) 90 (goes with DCx8 squad)

Elites
DCx9 (PF, PS, jp) 247
DCx8 (PF, PS, jp) 224
Furioso (Frag. cannon, HF, Pod) 175

Troops
Tacx5 (HF, combi-fl, LAS/PLAS razorback) 175
Tacx5 (HF, combi-fl, LAS/PLAS razorback) 175

Fast attack
ASMx5 (meltax2, combi-m, Pod) 115
ASMx5 (meltax2, combi-m, Pod) 115
Bike squadx4 (gravx2, sarge with combi-grav and melta bombs) 129

Heavy support
Sicaran (las sponsons) 175
Predator (Tri Las, overcharged engines) 140

Total: 1850 points on the dot. Thx for the suggestions.

Nice and diverse and very in your face I couldn't ask for anything better to be honest

You underpaid for the Libby in your second list, Angels Wings Relic costs as much as a power fist, your list is over by that much.

You could always consider dropping the libby for a chaplain? This would add a lot of extra punch to the dc.
You may also want to replace a squad of dc for another scoring unit or something more durable such as assault terminators with th/ss?

True, i just missed that. I could drop a power sword from DCx8 squad and a combi-flamer from a tac squad for the relic. Not much of an issue.


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InsTincT_OP wrote:
You could always consider dropping the libby for a chaplain? This would add a lot of extra punch to the dc.
You may also want to replace a squad of dc for another scoring unit or something more durable such as assault terminators with th/ss?

I´ve never played with a chaplain so I dont know. In fact Libby is there to make the squad more durable. I coud give Chaplain a try for 90 points.

Assault termis (and a transport) would make the list trully expensive and tbh termis aren´t worth their cost to me. DC are still quite durable.

Dont forget you dont get objective secured as it is a command benefit and we trade that for the red thirst

He can use the cad still.

I'd change the DC to 3 groups of 5, drop the Sicaran and Pred for a stormraven or fire raptor, then give each DC squad a PS or 2.

Just my $0.02.

 TranSpyre wrote:
I'd change the DC to 3 groups of 5, drop the Sicaran and Pred for a stormraven or fire raptor, then give each DC squad a PS or 2.

Just my $0.02.

Why would you want DC squads to be smaller? two squads of 8-9 with a PW each (Libby goes with PAxe) are perfectly fine against almost anything, killy, resilient and threatening.

 PastelAvenger wrote:
I don't think you need the attack bike, you have quite a lot of anti tank especially with the grav bike squad.

I would use the points dropped from that to get some more DC (they are gonna attract a lot of fire) or some relics on your guys. Angels Wings would be pretty good on the Libby, assuming the DC are Deep Striking.

I prefer assault cannons on my Razorbacks but that's personal preference due to the higher shots and able to threaten armour and troops.

Remember to take Bolters on your Power Fist DC.

Assault cannons on BA razorbacks is a waste. In practice, I find 24" guns on Pred/Rhino hulls to be disastrously bad.

Martel732 wrote:

 PastelAvenger wrote:
I don't think you need the attack bike, you have quite a lot of anti tank especially with the grav bike squad.

I would use the points dropped from that to get some more DC (they are gonna attract a lot of fire) or some relics on your guys. Angels Wings would be pretty good on the Libby, assuming the DC are Deep Striking.

I prefer assault cannons on my Razorbacks but that's personal preference due to the higher shots and able to threaten armour and troops.

Remember to take Bolters on your Power Fist DC.

Assault cannons on BA razorbacks is a waste. In practice, I find 24" guns on Pred/Rhino hulls to be disastrously bad.

At least Assault Cannons can be effective against both troops and armour. I don't personally like Razerbacks in 7th they blow up far to easy. I like em, I don't use Razerbacks anymore though due to their flimsiness.

If the razorback has a 48" gun, they get a lot more resilient by eliminating a lot of what can shoot them. BA don't need anti-troop shooting. They have anti-troop head-bashing on all their models. This is why I never really liked the dakka Baal. It just was there to add AV 13, but not really fulfill any critical job.

I might also add that everything that isn't multiple-wound and T6 or eternal warrior or lacks 2++ rerollable is pretty flimsy in 40K.

In case of a no FW list and fixing point mistakes. Not deep striking with DC. Still had 5 points to spare so they go to bike squad sarge m-b.

HQ
Sang. priest (combi-grav, bike) 90 (goes with bike squad)
Librarian (ML.2, P.Axe, jp) 105 (goes with DCx7 squad)

Elites
DCx8 (PF, jp) 232
DCx7 (PF, jp) 209
Furioso (Frag. cannon, HF, Pod) 175

Troops
Tacx5 (HF, LAS/PLAS razorback) 165
Tacx5 (HF, LAS/PLAS razorback) 165

Fast attack
ASMx5 (meltax2, combi-m, Pod) 115
ASMx5 (meltax2, combi-m, Pod) 115
Bike squadx4 (gravx2, sarge with combi-grav and melta bombs) 129

Heavy support
Stormraven (AC, MM) 200
Predator (Tri Las, overcharged engines) 150

Total 1850