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I'd hate to have a really, really, fancy set of objective markers due to some fether ripping them out of the mold. Sigh.

Whups! Posted that as I was reading the unread posts.

Wow. Ouch. Sucks to see such a waste of time, money, and backer goodwill have to occur.

Makes me glad Demigods backed out of their contract. Hopefully Prodos is able to provide for them better, and get you guys some decent figures!

Despicable. I can't believe Titan Forge thought those pieces were fit to ship to customers. I'll be writing off buying any of their products in the future.

For the sake of objectivity, I got my stuff and it is bubble free.

The flash is there though.

http://imgur.com/a/uAVSN

Edit: Yes, it is a necro but, I am updating with pictures to bring hope to other backers.

Well I'm still waiting on my pledge that has yet to arrive still. Apparently it seems there is only communication when they do a new Kickstarter like Lobotomy, then they communicate and send some pledges out... then go radio silent again. It was a good thing I didn't back Lobotomy, even though it looked interesting that I might like it... I wasn't sure they were able to demonstrate that things have changed yet.

Is that a surprise though? The warning signs from the previous kickstarter were there. I understand why folks would want to ignore them (I've done it myself) but issues were raised frequently. I don't recall if in this case the folks raising the issues were told to shut up and stop whining or not though like in so many other troubled kickstarters.

 warboss wrote:
Is that a surprise though? The warning signs from the previous kickstarter were there. I understand why folks would want to ignore them (I've done it myself) but issues were raised frequently. I don't recall if in this case the folks raising the issues were told to shut up and stop whining or not though like in so many other troubled kickstarters.

People raising the issues were told to be quiet.

 warboss wrote:
Is that a surprise though? The warning signs from the previous kickstarter were there. I understand why folks would want to ignore them (I've done it myself) but issues were raised frequently. I don't recall if in this case the folks raising the issues were told to shut up and stop whining or not though like in so many other troubled kickstarters.

No it isn't really a surprise, but I did want to comment as people haven't finished receiving pledges yet. Looking over the comments section of the KS, it appears some did receive them and there is discussion about them but it also looks like communication died down again. I didn't back Lobotomy because they haven't given or shown enough that there has been improvement on communications and fulfillment. It was for these reason that I also didn't back Panzerfauste even though a different company. I just make it a habit to not back KS that still have existing ones that haven't been fully fulfilled or at least showing they are on the way (on a ship). There are only a couple that I will and only because they have shown they do deliver continually instead of just when a new KS is happening.

That is a good habit to keep now that the kickstarter honeymoon is long over.

 RivenSkull wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Is that a surprise though? The warning signs from the previous kickstarter were there. I understand why folks would want to ignore them (I've done it myself) but issues were raised frequently. I don't recall if in this case the folks raising the issues were told to shut up and stop whining or not though like in so many other troubled kickstarters.

People raising the issues were told to be quiet.

Yes, right from the start, really. Most of the users bringing up fair game warnings were told to hush by others. I'd like to think this is a direct factor that allowed so many new comers to back and then get burned with either miscasts or nothing at all. The newer backers to KS quit commenting too, I guess they gave up.

I had a gut feeling they were going to pull this from the start, though I had hoped they would change. (They could be a good 3rd party bits manufacturer/board gamer developer.) I made sure I got my stuff as from the get go I hit up their FB, KS, and their mail/comment section. A backer shouldn't have to do this though, as a backer shouldn't have to worry.

They're also upset that this was pointed this out from the get go. So no warboss, I don't think it was a surprise. I'd like to think this thread here stopped a lot of people from getting burned though, always a plus.

Edit: I fixed some typos, changed post tone. Had my first cup of coffee now.

 Stormwall wrote:
For the sake of objectivity, I got my stuff and it is bubble free.

The flash is there though.

http://imgur.com/a/uAVSN

Edit: Yes, it is a necro but, I am updating with pictures to bring hope to other backers.

The problem with seeing that one guy got his stuff fine, and another got bad casts, is that it makes you think, 'Do I want to flip the coin on which I'm going to receive?'. If you know that the company will replace bad casts and apologise, there's no risk, and you happily purchase. If the company is unresponsive/unwilling to ship replacements though, then it turns every transaction into a gamble, which most people can't be bothered with.

 Ketara wrote:

 Stormwall wrote:
For the sake of objectivity, I got my stuff and it is bubble free.

The flash is there though.

http://imgur.com/a/uAVSN

Edit: Yes, it is a necro but, I am updating with pictures to bring hope to other backers.

The problem with seeing that one guy got his stuff fine, and another got bad casts, is that it makes you think, 'Do I want to flip the coin on which I'm going to receive?'. If you know that the company will replace bad casts and apologise, there's no risk, and you happily purchase. If the company is unresponsive/unwilling to ship replacements though, then it turns every transaction into a gamble, which most people can't be bothered with.

I agree fully. This whole thing was a coin toss. I'm grateful and bothered at the same time that my stuff is borderline flawless and everyone else got miscast garbage. I really think the only reason was timing and my complaining. I got my stuff about midway, so after the first guys who got bad stuff but, before the grainy red resin. I do have some red resin, on the little engines. The white came out good on the tank but, it sucks on everyone else's stuff so I simply got lucky. Only two of the bottom tracks have a bubble or so.

The red engines suck but, they just need a sanding. The red resin seems almost like it is from a 3d printer, and the troops came out great.

Still. Why is my stuff so good and everyone else's miscasts? This means they /can/ produce to a higher quality but, they are /not/.

Also, I only posted that not to sway people as I have been a skeptic from the start actually but, to give other backers hope/show them what they could be getting. At the time there was hardly any pictures circulating of this stuff, compared to now. TF again dropped the ball.

I've been informed that my pledge shipped 10/16/2015 and they provided tracking. Tracking tends to be spotty for showing in the US, usually updated after I've received stuff. At least when I've ordered items shipped from Poland. Probably first couple weeks in Nov I should be seeing it, providing no complications.