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This is based on the premise that there are less experienced members of the Reclusiam (Chaplains) and more experienced chaplains (Reclusiarchs) in the same way that there are less experienced of the Librarium (Codiciers & Lexicanums. The latter is absent for some reason) and more experienced Librarians (Epistolaries). By default, Space Marine librarians in a tabletop army are Codiciers and they can upgrade to Epistolaries for a certain amount, which is shown by their gaining of a mastery level, as they are more experienced. The proposed rule is this: For a fixed amount (30-50pts) a Chaplain (Less Expierinced) can upgrade to a Reclusiarch (More Experiened). Doing this would give them "Zealot On Steroids" if you will. It would still make the unit fearless, but it would also give them mega-hatred. On the subject of what this would be, I have 2 ideas.

1. Re-Rolls to hit throughout combat
2. Re-Rolls to hit & to wound on the first round of combat

Thoughts?

This is already a thing in the Reclusiarch dataslate.

skolirvarden wrote:
This is already a thing in the Reclusiarch dataslate.

Where can I find that?

And DA allready have Interrogator-Chaplains. And I think skolirvarden talking about Dataslate - Reclusiam Command Squad. This dataslate have enchanced version of Zealot.

Reinokarite wrote:
And DA allready have Interrogator-Chaplains. And I think skolirvarden talking about Dataslate - Reclusiam Command Squad. This dataslate have enchanced version of Zealot.

OK, but that is just one of the ideas. What about re-rolls to hit and wound on the first round of close combat?

Re-rolling hits during all rounds of CC is far more useful than hits and wounds in the first round

skolirvarden wrote:
Re-rolling hits during all rounds of CC is far more useful than hits and wounds in the first round

Maybe, so, but that's beside the point.

skolirvarden wrote:
This is already a thing in the Reclusiarch dataslate.

Yeah, but this doesn't require a command squad and a razorback.

natpri771 wrote:

skolirvarden wrote:
This is already a thing in the Reclusiarch dataslate.

Yeah, but this doesn't require a command squad and a razorback.

Now it just sounds like you want your idea to be praised because it was your idea, even though it already exists in game.

Old school Black Temp. could take a reclusiarch. I would love to have that back into the SM big book as a BT only thing (seeing as they would really be the only ones to use them in any numbers). You could just kinda copy pasta them form the old book with a bit of an update. +1 ws +1A Maaybbee 1 more wound, zealot to all units with in 6 inch and give ferrous charge to his squad, all that at about +30 points to a regular chap?

That would be awesome, but I'd probably crank the points a bit more with those rules. Ever played HoR Kill team with a chaplain? 6 inch zealot bubble (which is how zealot works with him in kill team) is surprisingly insane.

 death_scythe wrote:
Old school Black Temp. could take a reclusiarch. I would love to have that back into the SM big book as a BT only thing (seeing as they would really be the only ones to use them in any numbers). You could just kinda copy pasta them form the old book with a bit of an update. +1 ws +1A Maaybbee 1 more wound, zealot to all units with in 6 inch and give ferrous charge to his squad, all that at about +30 points to a regular chap?

Pretty good, but what about blood angels? Priests give +1 WS and they all have furious charge.