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Bit disappointed with the ramming action. Two billion ton warships collide and they bounce off other like tin cans? I want to see crumpling of hulls while the losing ship gets ripped a new one.
Again, alpha stage footage. I'm sure they'll give it some polish as release time draws nearer.
Game looks really awesome. Sign me up! I'll admit, though, I cringed super hard when he said "Sluhneesh". I do hope they include the other races' fleets in the future. Tyranid ships would be especially cool.
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Highly cool, but I'm confused as to the sudden influx of PC games based in abandoned GW tabletop franchises.
There's a Total War set in Warhammer.
There's a Blood Bowl 2 coming.
Now there's Battlefleet Gothic.
It's like you play these games and realise, "wow, I'd love to play the actual game these PC games are based on", only to find they've been axed. Sort of weird since these games could have served as fantastic advertisements for GW's primary product sector. This is classic GW backwardness though I suppose, never really understood all the GW hate but this is starting to put the picture together. It's some silly stuff.
legio_ultra wrote: Highly cool, but I'm confused as to the sudden influx of PC games based in abandoned GW tabletop franchises.
There's a Total War set in Warhammer.
There's a Blood Bowl 2 coming.
Now there's Battlefleet Gothic.
It's like you play these games and realise, "wow, I'd love to play the actual game these PC games are based on", only to find they've been axed. Sort of weird since these games could have served as fantastic advertisements for GW's primary product sector. This is classic GW backwardness though I suppose, never really understood all the GW hate but this is starting to put the picture together. It's some silly stuff.
Well, to play against AI, it doesn't require another person. To play against another person, it doesn't require you to be in the same room, to name but a few.
Whilst the games are great, they were niche, and niche means a small(er) fan base. This makes it even harder to find player to play against. Battlefield gothic in my opinion was always going to be perfect as a computer game rather than an actual model game, for the reasons stated above. As great as the models and the game was, it was just never going to be a he and lingering success, not to mention that playing a video game version of the game saves the player considerable time (assembling and painting models) and money.
The only fundamental reason a game of 40k where you can custom anything and everything as you would a normal army has never been on the table is due to the amount of money GW would lose off of it. As much as I like my models, I'd love to not have to buy multiple tactical squads and rhinos and what not, I'd be more than happy just buying the models I like as I'd do all my gaming online then.
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2015/09/15 23:20:53
Subject: Re:Battlefleet Gothic - RTS Game Announced!
Thing is, though, even if the BFG game is a perfect and faithful recreation of the tabletop game, and while I would devote many hours to it, I would still want to play the real thing. Generally speaking, most of us don't play tabletop wargames because they don't already exist as computer games. We play them because they are tabletop wargames. There's just something completely different about physically moving our little soldiers/tanks/spaceships around the table, rolling the dice, taking measurements, and chatting with our friends that no computer can (yet) recreate.
There is also the fact that the computer version may never represent all of the tabletop options. Will I get to recreate my Grey Knights fleet, complete with Inquisitorial Blackship? Will I get to field my AdMech fleet? What about my Ramilies Starfort?
Besides, even when it isn't a "niche" game, GW has utterly failed to capitalize on these things before. When Dawn of War came out, did GW do even one thing to try to lure those players in? Nope. One issue of White Dwarf had some pics of some scratchbuilt terrain based on the game and a converted character, but never any real rules or models were ever released, nothing with a big "Dawn of War Players Buy This Now" tag on it.
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The reason there are so many games based on old licenses supposedly has something to do with British copyright/IP law, I dont fully understand it, but it was something along the lines of they would lose the rights to the IP (or rather the IP would become public domain) if its out of print/production for more than 10 years at a time.
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2015/09/16 00:58:57
Subject: Re:Battlefleet Gothic - RTS Game Announced!
There's no danger of them losing any of the IP for BFG in that way, at least. There are constant references to BFG ships and pics of them scattered throughout the 40K books (and the FWHH books).
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2015/09/16 01:12:51
Subject: Re:Battlefleet Gothic - RTS Game Announced!
Tannhauser42 wrote: There's no danger of them losing any of the IP for BFG in that way, at least. There are constant references to BFG ships and pics of them scattered throughout the 40K books (and the FWHH books).
Yes and no. While the names are mentioned, a lot of the art is new. And the actual name Battlefleet Gothic hasn't been mentioned since IA 11. (My names in the FAQ credits, and I don't even get a call from these guys...)
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Darth Bob wrote: Game looks really awesome. Sign me up! I'll admit, though, I cringed super hard when he said "Sluhneesh". I do hope they include the other races' fleets in the future. Tyranid ships would be especially cool.
I think the "Sluhneesh" cringe spread to everyone who's watched that video lol.
Bit disappointed with the ramming action. Two billion ton warships collide and they bounce off other like tin cans? I want to see crumpling of hulls while the losing ship gets ripped a new one.
Again, alpha stage footage. I'm sure they'll give it some polish as release time draws nearer.
Yes, I would point out that both graphically and in terms of model physics, that that's probably going to be one of the most complex interactions in the game, so is not something that we're going to be seeing complete this early on.
Of course the fact that we've seen it's got ramming included has got me pretty chuffed. *Dreams of Ork Ramships* Sigh.
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chaos0xomega wrote: Did they say we would be getting bridge views? Considering its an RTS I wouldnt expect to see that included, but it would be nifty if they did.
No they didn't mention it, I was just being hopeful!
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2015/10/22 13:39:59
Subject: Re:Battlefleet Gothic - RTS Game Announced!
All glory to the Emperor!
We are about to launch an alpha test and are looking for highly motivated players to play and give their feedback.
All the info on the official forums
We are thrilled to see your enthusiasm for Battlefleet Gothic: Armada.
We are about to launch an alpha test and are looking for highly motivated players to play and give their feedback. This is a private alpha and all alpha testers will be under NDA. No screenshots, streaming, or video capture of any kind is permitted, and players must not talk about their experience outside of the official alpha forum threads.
To apply for this alpha participation, you must subscribe for the alpha HERE.
Then we'll select some of you according to your profile. The alpha will last 2 weeks and we count on you to report cogent and cohesive feedback: this is a step of the game development process, and not the release of the game. Players should expect an unstable environment, subject to changes.
See you in space, marine!
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2015/10/29 09:02:40
Subject: Re:Battlefleet Gothic - RTS Game Announced!
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
.. which is, believe it or not, a teaser for the trailer coming next week.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2015/12/16 11:51:15
Subject: Re:Battlefleet Gothic - RTS Game Announced!
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
Every trailer gets me more pumped for this. The quick glimpse we got of the Eldar ship was cool as well. At the very least they have nailed the graphics and aesthetics of each faction but I see great promise in the gameplay as well if the trailers are anything to go by.
Why couldn't they have made this turn-based like the board game. Cyanide made a port of Blood Bowl that was faithful to the minis game. Why not BFG?
I hate RTS games. Hate them with a passion. I tried DoW, REALLY hoping to like it. Nope. Hated it. I suck at them, so they are completely not enjoyable. Even a turn-based option would be fine.
I'm the reverse and absolutely can't stand turn based games. They just aren't engaging enough imo. I was worried this game was going to be turn based given the first videos and bits of information that came out.
2015/12/16 17:45:42
Subject: Re:Battlefleet Gothic - RTS Game Announced!
Super stoked to see this releasing soon. Glad to see (so far anyway) that it's not just some shovelware mobile game.
While I'm not 100% sold on the "micro-warp jump" bit (since that's not really represented in classic BFG), I think I can forgive it for the sake of mechanically adapting the game to the digital format.
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I want to see crumpling of hulls while the losing ship gets ripped a new one.
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