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Hey everyone, back to the hobby after 15 years.. This is my 2nd attempt with green stuff.

I am looking for painting/finishing advice for this model, I am relatively happy with it so far but feel stuck.
I've had fun with the new GW Texture/Technical paints so far!

The skin looks dry, though I don't want to get it too glossy... The pictures aren't great, though I feel they get the idea across.











Advice/Constructive criticism appreciated!


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Worked on him some more.. Still not real pleased with the skin.

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So what are you asking? How to make the skin look less dry?

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This needs to be greenish... Now it is just gross

Got milk?

All I can say about painting is that VMC tastes much better than VMA... especially black...

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
So what are you asking? How to make the skin look less dry?


Yes, I'm guessing my dry brushing got a little too dry, and left a little bit of a dusty texture.
   
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NorCal

Multiple thin coats work better than one thick coat. Something I learned via Dakka.

You could try using a VERY thin coating of that Nurgle's Rot you slopped on per Citadel's silly instructions. A thin coat will not alter your base color, and it works wonderfully for mutations. You can also get a "wet" look by repeatedly washing with thinned (50/50 cut) wash & water mix. In the photos the blue & silver sections used the thinned wash technique (using blue and black washes respectively) and the bone & green sections used a thin coat of Nurgle's Rot as a final glaze.

BTW I really like your conversion process. You did a great job with the greenstuff guts.



PS You can still use slopped Nurgle's Rot to get the pus effect. A thin glaze on top of the organic areas will not screw up your color contrast. Hell, you could even do a thin wash of green, yellow, or a green/brown mix to the pus areas and then glaze the whole organic sections.
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I'm thinking the bright red is taking a bit too much away from the pale colors, and fresh blood in general doesn't go very well with the whole diseased Nurgle feeling. I'd try replacing that with more pale color and maybe a bit of purple/blue wash.

Also the metal looks a bit too dark, I might try a bit of bright rust, or maybe copper with some verdigris. Also could make a couple of rusty bullet holes in metal plates, especially in the mouth part. The ooze/blood covered shoulder doesn't look good.

The skin looks pretty good, but it could use some light purple/blue/green/yellow wash areas to make it look more unhealthy.

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Adding more greens and purple to show deader flesh works.

Also if you really want to you can always just hit it with a bit of gloss or semi gloss varnish to add a sheen.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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 Peter Wiggin wrote:
Multiple thin coats work better than one thick coat. Something I learned via Dakka.

You could try using a VERY thin coating of that Nurgle's Rot you slopped on per Citadel's silly instructions. A thin coat will not alter your base color, and it works wonderfully for mutations. You can also get a "wet" look by repeatedly washing with thinned (50/50 cut) wash & water mix. In the photos the blue & silver sections used the thinned wash technique (using blue and black washes respectively) and the bone & green sections used a thin coat of Nurgle's Rot as a final glaze.

BTW I really like your conversion process. You did a great job with the greenstuff guts.



PS You can still use slopped Nurgle's Rot to get the pus effect. A thin glaze on top of the organic areas will not screw up your color contrast. Hell, you could even do a thin wash of green, yellow, or a green/brown mix to the pus areas and then glaze the whole organic sections.


Thank you for the advice, I guess patience is a virtue.. and I know better than to glob on paint but still did in some areas.

I'm a little afraid to cover all of the organic area in a wash, but I'll water it down and give it a go.

I have at my disposal: Nuln Oil, Orange wash from ~'98, Green wash from ~'98, Orc Flesh wash from '98, and a Red glaze from '98.
The bottles from '98 seem to have had a good seal and are still in workable condition... Would you advise against a green wash on the flesh/tissue?

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I would go purple > black with a spot of green for the ganglyness. (fleshy area with stuff poping out and areas you want bruised)

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 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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 prowla wrote:
I'm thinking the bright red is taking a bit too much away from the pale colors, and fresh blood in general doesn't go very well with the whole diseased Nurgle feeling. I'd try replacing that with more pale color and maybe a bit of purple/blue wash.

Also the metal looks a bit too dark, I might try a bit of bright rust, or maybe copper with some verdigris. Also could make a couple of rusty bullet holes in metal plates, especially in the mouth part. The ooze/blood covered shoulder doesn't look good.

The skin looks pretty good, but it could use some light purple/blue/green/yellow wash areas to make it look more unhealthy.



Thank you!

I agree about the oozy shoulder, I was trying to take away some of the focus from the guts and it didn't work out too well.

Do you have example pictures of where the "unhealthy areas" would be more likely to happen naturally?

I think I need to pick up more washes.


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 Desubot wrote:
I would go purple > black with a spot of green for the ganglyness. (fleshy area with stuff poping out and areas you want bruised)


Okay, the only purple I have is an old Liche purple, I'll look into picking up a lot of washes today or tomorrow!

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PotatoFlakeSTi wrote:


Do you have example pictures of where the "unhealthy areas" would be more likely to happen naturally?


Googling 'nurgle flesh', 'nurgle skin' etc. would probably give you a lot of ideas and examples. First rule of painting minis: always google and steal

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I took some of the advice, looks much better now.. Especially in person

Not sure what to do about the left chest guard peice

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Original legion color?

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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 Desubot wrote:
Original legion color?


Didn't even think of that! Thank you.


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NorCal

PotatoFlakeSTi wrote:
 Peter Wiggin wrote:
Multiple thin coats work better than one thick coat. Something I learned via Dakka.

You could try using a VERY thin coating of that Nurgle's Rot you slopped on per Citadel's silly instructions. A thin coat will not alter your base color, and it works wonderfully for mutations. You can also get a "wet" look by repeatedly washing with thinned (50/50 cut) wash & water mix. In the photos the blue & silver sections used the thinned wash technique (using blue and black washes respectively) and the bone & green sections used a thin coat of Nurgle's Rot as a final glaze.

BTW I really like your conversion process. You did a great job with the greenstuff guts.



PS You can still use slopped Nurgle's Rot to get the pus effect. A thin glaze on top of the organic areas will not screw up your color contrast. Hell, you could even do a thin wash of green, yellow, or a green/brown mix to the pus areas and then glaze the whole organic sections.


Thank you for the advice, I guess patience is a virtue.. and I know better than to glob on paint but still did in some areas.

I'm a little afraid to cover all of the organic area in a wash, but I'll water it down and give it a go.

I have at my disposal: Nuln Oil, Orange wash from ~'98, Green wash from ~'98, Orc Flesh wash from '98, and a Red glaze from '98.
The bottles from '98 seem to have had a good seal and are still in workable condition... Would you advise against a green wash on the flesh/tissue?


Looks a lot better! To answer your question, I like applying green washes for shading on organic tubing....pretty much exactly like you did on the gun arm.

Nuln Oil cut with water makes a great shading tool for silvers. Its pretty much my go to for metal armor since its so simple & easily duplicated. You can also mix Nuln Oil with blue wash and use it for gunmetal wash if you want certain metallic areas darker & clearly differentiated from bright sections. On those copper metallic sections, you could use a brown wash for shading (which also shades red paint nicely).

Nurgle's Rot as a light glaze is interesting. It gives the whole model a nice sheen and makes colors pop.The stuff was marketed as "use to make puddles of puss & slime" but with a more delicate usage it can really add life to a model. Side bonus: It acts as a protectant and gives the model a cool tacky texture.

The guts look way better. I've always been curious to see what Blood For The Blood God looks like as a light glaze on red paint.

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Thank you again for your input, it was invaluable. Along with everyone else too, of course.

Here are the "finished for now" look, it's just for table top use and I'm tired!




   
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GJ. If this is your first big nurgle model, the conversion parts look nice and the paint job looks disgusting - in a proper way

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I second the above! I missed this during its build process but it does look absolutely filthy in the way nurgle always should.

Second GS enocunter? you have a talent good sir! Guts look fantastic.skin colour looks great with the green washes.

is the nurle's rot stuff the gloopy yellow stuff? ive never encountered it....ahh after a google yes it is

I am assuming that you used some pigments for the rust effect on the metal work. Personally, id potentially use some green pigments when working on nurle skin, your washes have done wonders but I find powders can work miracles for getting really nice skin tones in regards to other colours (hard tto describe what I mean). I use soft pastels ground up, but then pastels have been a love of my art life since I can remember

overall wicked job, I would also point you to the UHU glue techniques as something you may find of interest. basically you can make nurgle rot styled effects using this glue and inks (therefore making it any shade you like), as i find nurgles rot is definitely not green and pussy enough for me!

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I really like the depth of color you acheived. Plenty of contrast in the right places, plus the pile of guts & puss looks absolutely disgusting.

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prowla wrote:GJ. If this is your first big nurgle model, the conversion parts look nice and the paint job looks disgusting - in a proper way


Tim 121RVC wrote:Sick!


Peter Wiggin wrote:I really like the depth of color you acheived. Plenty of contrast in the right places, plus the pile of guts & puss looks absolutely disgusting.


Thanks everyone, I'm glowing putrid green with pride... I owe much to you guys for helping with the scheme of the skin, and accessories/rust.

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