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I'm currently working my way back up to USN Carriers and I am finding the Wyoming surprising enjoyable. I never liked Battleships in the closed beta but I am obviously a sufficiently better shot to allow me to rack up the damage, 12 guns helps a little bit with this as well.

I love vapourising cruisers with a single salvo

Yeah, it definitely helps that the Wyoming has the extra guns, so "wasting" one of them to check targeting isn't too bad. I suppose I'll eventually get to be a good enough shot that I won't have to use targeting shots, but those BB reload times mean you can't afford to miss with the full salvo.
Got my first carrier, the Langley, yesterday. I've already played several games with it. Playing as a carrier is very different from the other ships. I sometimes feel like my only role is to use my one piddly fighter squadron to do some initial scouting and then to intercept as many of the enemy's bombers as I can. I actually manage to sink a ship with my own torpedo bombers every other game, most times I just do a good bit of damage with them or completely miss. Although, I'm surviving a lot more battles now, or at least I'm one of the last ships to go down.

Still looking forward to moving on from the Wyoming BB to the New York class (as it is the USS Texas). Will probably stop there for BBs, as the carrier takes up a lot of my time.

The warspite is the only battleship I own after wipe. I just don't care for the current in game navies so I'm just training my British captain up.

Also, this ship gives me these kind of results.

Im a pretty good shot in the game... for whatever reason I have trouble landing hits with the Myogi though. Im lucky to get a citadel hit with the Myogi, other ships I get 3+ per game. The Wyoming has been known to get me 3 citadel hits *per salvo*.

I think youll get better with torp bombers in time, there are some stupidly good carrier drivers out there who manage to put down unavoidable spreads of torpedos against the big ships. Last night one of the matches came down to a lone carrier vs 3 BBs and a Carrier. The lone carrier set fire to our carrier w dive bombers twice in a short period, making it impossible for him to launch anything, than torpedoed it. I managed to track him down in my myogi and put some shells into him but he torpedoed me, and then killed one of the two wyomings on the other end of the map. Game ended in defeat for my team at that point.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Will probably stop there for BBs, as the carrier takes up a lot of my time.

Carrier gameplay is quite broken just now. The difference between the effectiveness of fighters between tiers is hopelessly unbalanced to the extent that I was able to completely lock down 2 enemy carriers 1 tier below me with my fighter loadout Ranger in closed beta. Dive bombers are pretty much useless due to their terrible accuracy and low damage while torp bombers are obviously good but they are fairly easy to avoid, even with battleships (turn into the sqn and kill your speed when they start their attack run). I like carrier gameplay but it needs a lot of work before it is even close to balanced.

I just experienced the tier disparity in my last game. I was up against a Bogue that had two fighters and one bomber. His fighter squadrons were faster than mine and just one killed mine in a matter of seconds. And one player on my team was all like "lure them to the AA, you suck." I would gladly lure them into some AA, but that would have required the AA to be parked right next to me for that entire battle.

A game before that was my Langley plus another Langley against a Hosho and a Zuiho. Sure, our fighters are stronger than theirs and have no problems taking out their fighters and bombers, but our two fighter squadrons can't be everywhere at once to counter all of their bomber squadrons. By a minor miracle we still won because a destroyer or cruiser on our team hauled ass to the other side of the map and got their carriers.

 doc1234 wrote:
Well, that and the other reason for wanting the Kongo

Spoiler:

You. I like you. *high five*

Burning Love 4Eva!

Haven't played massive quantities after the start of the open beta. I'm still in the Myogi hell, I had enough of that ship in CBT, right now it's being so damn hard to reach my beautiful Kongo.

Things were just fine until they opened the beta up, now the derps have invaded and I seem to get more of the derpy teams than the thinkers.

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Things were just fine until they opened the beta up, now the derps have invaded and I seem to get more of the derpy teams than the thinkers.

Thought is a sin! Torp your team mates! LEEEEEROOOOOYY JENKINSSS!

Torps no know allegiance

Just got my Bogue, yay. I was able to somewhat powerlevel my way through the Langley as I had earned a "confederate" achievement earlier, giving me a bunch of flags that add 50% XP in a battle.

I've seen a few idiots in the game. Apart from the one who thought my one T4 carrier fighter squadron would be a match for 2 T5 carrier fighter squadrons, I once had some guy in a cruiser or destroyer collide with my battleship. I'm in a battleship, I am slow and steer like a cow, and your fast and agile ship still couldn't avoid me? It's not like I appeared out of nowhere. I've also seen the ones that don't pay attention before firing their torpedoes. There are also the ones who are apparently ex-Navyfield players who like to shoot some torps right away. not realizing the things have a fairly short range (launching torps at someone 11km away ain't gonna work).

My favourite are people who try and reverse behind islands while underfire in destroyers.

I just had a very iconic game. My Wyoming was left to cover a flank essentially on my own (a South Carolina supported me but didn't last long) against 3 enemy Battleships. I managed to kill 2 with gun fire but I was obviously pretty badly damaged, on fire and with a couple of crippled turrets. The remaining BB was about 4 KM on nearly full health firing broadsides at me. I had only 1 option left, RAMMING SPEED! 3 enemy battleships sunk and a shiny medal for my Captain's widow.

I won the battle but as usual my team lost the war.

I always stay miles away from torp capable allies. They are the real enemy.

Trying it, and honestly, just not into it I guess... the tiers feel like they're less one sided than in WoT so that's a plus, but the grinding is still there and still tedious.

I really wanted to get to the Aircraft carriers but the first two battleships I've played are so unfun XD.

Just not for me I guess.

Carriers are tricky, and take some skill mastering as you have to switch from carrier-to-squadron-to-squadron-to squadron, and master the way to lock onto the targets, and get to carrier again to move it from harm.

BBs are slow and methodical and take patience but can hurl powerful salvos at the enemy, Wyomings are beasts! each BB does seem to have special issues like the mixed fire control problems of the Kawachi, or the way the Arkansas Beta, or SC wallow like 800hogs in mud

Cruisers, all around with speed decent enough to be fun to run, firepower that hurts the enemy, and some come with torps.

DDs fastest things around, but delicate, need to smoke screen to hide, and the devastation in closed areas of torps

Yes, many do not realize the short range of WW-2 era torps. the longest range torps of that time I recall were the Japanese Oxygen jet torps which had double the range of propeller driven US torps.They were however less prevalent than the standard Japanese propeller torps, so yeah past 7km the torps are useless, they are close in weapons, and one has to make use of small islands to lop around as fire of the enemy is absorbed by the terrain and then lob the torps at close quarters, most cruisers die to 3 torps if they are full health, got 6 torps? BB can be dead meat at close range, but watch the BB salvos!

Tanks, Planes and ships are all gonna be grinds.

The torp spotting mechanics ensure that long range torps are essentially useless unless your target is AFK or asleep.

I have finally gotten past the horrific grind that is the Wickes (the only good thing to say about that pile of gak is that it is fast) and into the semi reasonable Clemson. Only 20k or so exp until I get my Nicholas back.

They may not hit, but the torps can be handy for shepherding enemy ships in the direction you want to go, and if you can get them stuck in a position where they can't turn out of the way even better. The torps are weapons of opportunity.


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I'm questioning the lack of Tenryu reskins



Just got the ship, rather enjoying it as an over armoured destroyer. Going to assume ship reskinning will be a bit annoying till the game leaves beta, I seem to remember that they changed the skin location in the files a good few times with World of Tanks.

Skin Mods:

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/7725-xerb-kancolle-mod-wows/

Check the latest post. Tenryu is there.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:
Skin Mods:

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/7725-xerb-kancolle-mod-wows/

Check the latest post. Tenryu is there.

Huh I must have found the wrong one then, another thread came up when i googled it that seemed like it was from the alpha/closed beta and was mostly outdated. Ah well, thanks !


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Also is it just me or are the skins not applying with changes to the ships hull module?

I got myself a Kongo, first thing I did was upgrade it with the accuracy mod. Soooooo much better than the Myogi was, but I still cant help but feel that I enjoy playing the Wyoming better, it handles more like what I expect a battleship to feel like. The 12 gun salvo feels more impactful and meaningful than Kongos 6, even if Kongos guns are a bit bigger, Kongo just feels like an oversized cruiser, not quite as fast and with a painfully slow reload time.

Don't forget regardless of her classification in the game as a Battleship, historically the kongo class were Battlecruisers, not battleships. So they really are over sized Cruisers in the same way the Tenryu is a fat Destroyer.

 doc1234 wrote:
Don't forget regardless of her classification in the game as a Battleship, historically the kongo class were Battlecruisers, not battleships. So they really are over sized Cruisers in the same way the Tenryu is a fat Destroyer.

Kongo class got a complete tear down in the mid 30's upgrading them to fast battleships.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 doc1234 wrote:
Don't forget regardless of her classification in the game as a Battleship, historically the kongo class were Battlecruisers, not battleships. So they really are over sized Cruisers in the same way the Tenryu is a fat Destroyer.

Kongo class got a complete tear down in the mid 30's upgrading them to fast battleships.

I know what they became, but given that the games also using ships that are pretty much ww1 era, it seems they're leaning the Kongo more to the battlecruiser side of things. Though the fast battleship upgrade should be more evident in the module upgrades personally.

 doc1234 wrote:

I know what they became, but given that the games also using ships that are pretty much ww1 era, it seems they're leaning the Kongo more to the battlecruiser side of things. Though the fast battleship upgrade should be more evident in the module upgrades personally.

The difference in performance between the first and second hulls I found pretty obvious, but it's not for everyone.

 BaronIveagh wrote:

 doc1234 wrote:

I know what they became, but given that the games also using ships that are pretty much ww1 era, it seems they're leaning the Kongo more to the battlecruiser side of things. Though the fast battleship upgrade should be more evident in the module upgrades personally.

The difference in performance between the first and second hulls I found pretty obvious, but it's not for everyone.

Some of the upgrades seem fairly questionable at times frankly.

Some of the upgrades are undoubtedly downgrades. Notably the top Omaha hull which not only removes a set of torp tubes but also 2 turrets for a handful of extra AAA, well worth 3800 exp.

I got my Nicholas back last night. The Wickes was an absolute tedious grind but the Clemson was a joy that I flew threw; it only took me about 2 days of casualish play to complete and in that time I only had 1 bad game and I generally finished at or near the top in each game.

Speed, excellent guns (for its class and tier) and power torps with sufficient range to use safely make the Clemson an absolute beast.

Been on a massive losing streak with both my Warspite and Myoko. I'm getting games where I do 2-5 kills each time and my team still manages to fall apart enough in the first 5 minutes to leave me hanging in a 1-3 vs 6+ situations.

GETTING REALLY TIRED OF THIS GAK.

Recently started playing and I LOVE the St. Louis just for the sheer amount of cannons it has. Finished up a battle in it with 4 kills and 1 kill was a duel between a battleship and myself.

Just find the ship to be amazing.

 King Pariah wrote:
Recently started playing and I LOVE the St. Louis just for the sheer amount of cannons it has. Finished up a battle in it with 4 kills and 1 kill was a duel between a battleship and myself.

Just find the ship to be amazing.

You would love the Atlanta.

Well, just got myself into a New York, didnt give it a go yet. I'm starting to feel a bit of grind fatigue. The game is tons of fun, but its quickly becoming rather repetitive, especially since it seems that the same 2 or 3 maps make up 90% of all games played (at least for me). Would be nice to get a bit more variety in that. I also think some new scenarios might be nice. Beyond that, the cost of upgrades/getting into higher tiers is ballooning up pretty fast, almost to the point that I've lost interest in continuing to chase after higher tier gameplay (and thus losing interest in playing the game entirely).