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The Silent King has come back into the Galaxy to reunite the Necrons, and to warm them about the Tyranid threat. But is it possible to reunite all of the dynasties? Each with their own rivalries, and differences. Then there is the Sautekh dynasty lead by Imotekh, I doubt that he would bow to the Silent King.

Silent King probably has the command protocols to unify them all or something.

But when he left, he broke the command protocols and left all of the Necrons to fend for themselves, making them free.

No, he's gonna end up mopping Imotekh's floors with his own face.

I would love to see a literal version of that, Scrub harder you idiot or I'll cut off your right hand!

As stated above, he destroyed those command protocols. The only way he could reunite the Necrons under a general cause would basically be by bribing them. Lets say, for instance that he knew the location of thousands of dormant tombworlds that could be plundered. If he offered those worlds to Phaerons and Overlords who where willing to follow a general plan, I suppose you could consider that semi-unification.

No.

Not only will he fail, but the destroyers will likely turn on the rest of the necrons before his attempt finishes, and the C'tan are always looking for a way to get back on top.

In fact, he might be able to unify the necrons if either the destroyers DID turn on them en masse or if a C'tan managed to become whole again, but without such an existential threat that hits close to home, no way.

Of course, if he gets close, Trazyn may decide that stealing the credit for uniting the Necrons is the next thing he wants and the poor Silent King will be left wondering what happened.

He'll have to get there before Anrakyr.

Unless Anrakyr secretly is the Silent King... Hm.

Well, its implied that Triarch Praetorians hold influence of varying degrees in just about every Dynasties. And the Praetorians answer to the Silent King in absolute... so.... hmm... hard to say. A lot of the Phaerons and Overlords have their own goals and agendas now so I definitely don't think they'll bow their heads like before.

With that being said, He is THE last Silent King and once the ruler of all Necron race. Even without the command nodes, that should hold some influence over every Necron who still has enough sentience to recognize that fact.

I don't think he'll ever achieve total obedience and loyalty like before but a lot of Necron lords will still serve him.

That's actually been something I don't get -- why not abandon the galaxy?

Out of all the races in 40k, they're the ones who can most easily just up and leave and migrate to a new galaxy. Why stay in a galaxy where you have Chaos (who you hate with a passion), Eldar (who you hate with a passion), Tyranids (who'll be a hard fight) and some other races considered vermin/ chaff.

Why don't they just feth off to another galaxy? They have the means and its not like they're going to grow old as they travel between galaxies. Hell, they could leave all infected Destroyer or Flayer Necrons behind just to do as much damage as possible and to clean their ranks of the taint.

Even if they really really really like our Galaxy, it makes sense to migrate for now; regroup and with a new Galaxy worth of resources, they could build so many tomb worlds, weaponry and ships to come back and utterely cleanse our Galaxy once and for all.

I've never thought of it like that, I guess there is a big sense of "this is our galaxy and no one else's" I guess that the Necrons just still have a lot of honor

If he was the one who destroyed the command protocols, maybe he knows how to restore them or something along those lines?

I thought the codex said something about that not being possible, cause you would have to find them all and reinstall it or something, most necrons wouldn't even let him.

 Otto Weston wrote:

Even if they really really really like our Galaxy, it makes sense to migrate for now; regroup and with a new Galaxy worth of resources, they could build so many tomb worlds, weaponry and ships to come back and utterely cleanse our Galaxy once and for all.

Necrons can't make new Necrons since they need living souls to convert. The army that came back would have to be made up of Canoptek units being commanded by Immortals-retrained-as-handlers and it would still be size-limited by the number of sapient Necrons available.

That said, an army of Necron Immortals riding Tomb Spyders would be pretty cool. Hm. I'll see you in Proposed Rules.

Quick answer: No, GW won't advance the plot any time soon as 40K is still their cash-cow. If they get desperate like WHF they may do, but then they won't have anything left to sell after the final splash of models and books.

The Silent King should really sort out his vocal processor, the greatest irritation for all Necrons is the little sign-language scarab on all ship-to-ship broadcasts.

 Wulfmar wrote:
The Silent King should really sort out his vocal processor, the greatest irritation for all Necrons is the little sign-language scarab on all ship-to-ship broadcasts.

Oh that's adorable.

 Otto Weston wrote:
That's actually been something I don't get -- why not abandon the galaxy?

Out of all the races in 40k, they're the ones who can most easily just up and leave and migrate to a new galaxy. Why stay in a galaxy where you have Chaos (who you hate with a passion), Eldar (who you hate with a passion), Tyranids (who'll be a hard fight) and some other races considered vermin/ chaff.

Why don't they just feth off to another galaxy? They have the means and its not like they're going to grow old as they travel between galaxies. Hell, they could leave all infected Destroyer or Flayer Necrons behind just to do as much damage as possible and to clean their ranks of the taint.

Even if they really really really like our Galaxy, it makes sense to migrate for now; regroup and with a new Galaxy worth of resources, they could build so many tomb worlds, weaponry and ships to come back and utterely cleanse our Galaxy once and for all.

I always figured that out of all the races it would be the Necrons who would have the best odds of fighting the Tyranids. The The Tyranids couldn't replenish biomass and wasn't there some fluff about a hive fleet deliberately changing its path to avoid a tomb world, conclusion being that the hive mind knows it is pointless trying to harvest a tomb world.

That's actually been something I don't get -- why not abandon the galaxy?

Out of all the races in 40k, they're the ones who can most easily just up and leave and migrate to a new galaxy. Why stay in a galaxy where you have Chaos (who you hate with a passion), Eldar (who you hate with a passion), Tyranids (who'll be a hard fight) and some other races considered vermin/ chaff.

Why don't they just feth off to another galaxy? They have the means and its not like they're going to grow old as they travel between galaxies. Hell, they could leave all infected Destroyer or Flayer Necrons behind just to do as much damage as possible and to clean their ranks of the taint.

Even if they really really really like our Galaxy, it makes sense to migrate for now; regroup and with a new Galaxy worth of resources, they could build so many tomb worlds, weaponry and ships to come back and utterely cleanse our Galaxy once and for all.

Why doesn't everyone who lives in a war zone, surrounded by people who hate them and are proly gunna merc them at the first chace, just leave? Why do people still live in the desert or the arctic? There are better places to live, where everything doesn't want to kill you.

They stay for a ton of reasons, nostalgia, history, tradition, imagined inability, stubborness, etc. The Necrons think they own the galaxy, why would they leave and let the riff raff mess up thier stuff.

GET OFF MY LAWN YOU ROTTEN KIDS!!!!

taurising wrote:

That's actually been something I don't get -- why not abandon the galaxy?

Out of all the races in 40k, they're the ones who can most easily just up and leave and migrate to a new galaxy. Why stay in a galaxy where you have Chaos (who you hate with a passion), Eldar (who you hate with a passion), Tyranids (who'll be a hard fight) and some other races considered vermin/ chaff.

Why don't they just feth off to another galaxy? They have the means and its not like they're going to grow old as they travel between galaxies. Hell, they could leave all infected Destroyer or Flayer Necrons behind just to do as much damage as possible and to clean their ranks of the taint.

Even if they really really really like our Galaxy, it makes sense to migrate for now; regroup and with a new Galaxy worth of resources, they could build so many tomb worlds, weaponry and ships to come back and utterely cleanse our Galaxy once and for all.

Why doesn't everyone who lives in a war zone, surrounded by people who hate them and are proly gunna merc them at the first chace, just leave? Why do people still live in the desert or the arctic? There are better places to live, where everything doesn't want to kill you.

They stay for a ton of reasons, nostalgia, history, tradition, imagined inability, stubborness, etc. The Necrons think they own the galaxy, why would they leave and let the riff raff mess up thier stuff.

GET OFF MY LAWN YOU ROTTEN KIDS!!!!

I disagree. I think it would be them most logical solution for them to leave en mass, and as robots that would be very appealing. They did technically leave the last time, but instead of physically leaving they hibernated.

But they're not robots, they're still living beings. However, their souls have been taken away from them, the Overlords still hold their honours and cares for the Galaxy around them

Try leaving your home after 60 million years, even if most of was was spent sleeping underground

Well i think that "Living Being" is too generic a term.

as far as being attached to this galaxy that would fall under two possible categories, the more likely is sentimentality,and the second pertinent one is sentience.

On both accounts the fluff shows that your average necron has neither of these, at least no tin levels required to be sentimental about wanting to leave the galaxy. The only fully cognitive members of their race are the lords, overlords, and crypteks, everything else is bordering on mindless grunts who just obey orders due to pre-programmed command relay orders. these are handled internally by the mind and processor of each necron.

so yea they sound like robots to me. but if you would rather ill call them semi-sentient metallic bipedal constructs.

 Otto Weston wrote:
That's actually been something I don't get -- why not abandon the galaxy?

Out of all the races in 40k, they're the ones who can most easily just up and leave and migrate to a new galaxy. Why stay in a galaxy where you have Chaos (who you hate with a passion), Eldar (who you hate with a passion), Tyranids (who'll be a hard fight) and some other races considered vermin/ chaff.

Why don't they just feth off to another galaxy? They have the means and its not like they're going to grow old as they travel between galaxies. Hell, they could leave all infected Destroyer or Flayer Necrons behind just to do as much damage as possible and to clean their ranks of the taint.

Even if they really really really like our Galaxy, it makes sense to migrate for now; regroup and with a new Galaxy worth of resources, they could build so many tomb worlds, weaponry and ships to come back and utterly cleanse our Galaxy once and for all.

You can't run from Chaos. If the Necrons flee the Milky Way and even the entire local group, they may very well find the warp catching up and consuming them if the Emperor falls. The Necrons have to stay in order to ensure events proceed preferably.

I doubt the Necrons would deliberately fight the Tyranids. Not only would it be a tough fight, but that want different things. And the same things.

Both want to exterminate life on their respective mudballs -one to acquire biomass, the other out of (apparently) sheer spite for life in general.

They would gravitate toward different planets. Necrons are interested in minerals and energy resources, 'Nids are into biomass.

I expect that Nids would not target a low life-to-lifeless Necron world. If the Nids did hit a Cron world teeming with life the Crons could probably go underground - literally - until the Nids scoured their hunk of rock. Then they could reappear to claim a suitably lifeless planet. I suspect Crons see Nids as a galactic vacuum cleaner who does all the work 'so they don't have toooooo....!'

 GKTiberius wrote:
Well i think that "Living Being" is too generic a term.

as far as being attached to this galaxy that would fall under two possible categories, the more likely is sentimentality,and the second pertinent one is sentience.

On both accounts the fluff shows that your average necron has neither of these, at least no tin levels required to be sentimental about wanting to leave the galaxy. The only fully cognitive members of their race are the lords, overlords, and crypteks, everything else is bordering on mindless grunts who just obey orders due to pre-programmed command relay orders. these are handled internally by the mind and processor of each necron.

so yea they sound like robots to me. but if you would rather ill call them semi-sentient metallic bipedal constructs.

You're missing some important points there.

One: Sure, you can call Warriors robots if you like. There's little enough of their minds left to still count as Beings. However, everything above that retains intelligence but lacks free will. They are sentient... but many of them are possibly not sapient.

Two: They're Undead.

Three: The sapient Necrons (unlucky Immortals, Lychguard, Praetorians, Lords, Crypteks, Overlords) are barely awake enough to think about leaving.

 Otto Weston wrote:
That's actually been something I don't get -- why not abandon the galaxy?

Out of all the races in 40k, they're the ones who can most easily just up and leave and migrate to a new galaxy. Why stay in a galaxy where you have Chaos (who you hate with a passion), Eldar (who you hate with a passion), Tyranids (who'll be a hard fight) and some other races considered vermin/ chaff.

Why don't they just feth off to another galaxy? They have the means and its not like they're going to grow old as they travel between galaxies. Hell, they could leave all infected Destroyer or Flayer Necrons behind just to do as much damage as possible and to clean their ranks of the taint.

Even if they really really really like our Galaxy, it makes sense to migrate for now; regroup and with a new Galaxy worth of resources, they could build so many tomb worlds, weaponry and ships to come back and utterely cleanse our Galaxy once and for all.

Maybe it's a "the enemies you know" type situation?

I had a terrible boss at an old job. Everybody wanted him to get replaced. And when he finally was, the next guy was much much worse.
Similarly, heading off to a new galaxy you're rolling the dice - if this one is super crappy, what's to say the next one won't be MEGA crappy?

.... they don't leave because it's theirs. Their galaxy. The one they took, by right of arms, from the rest of the sentient species in the time of pre-history. They're not going to let some termite-infestation ruin something they worked so hard for for so long.

Decay wrote:
But when he left, he broke the command protocols and left all of the Necrons to fend for themselves, making them free.

That doesn't appear to be in the latest codex. Honestly there isn't much at all about the silent king in the current dex. For some reason GW took out most of that fluff.

Necrons for the most-part don't kill out of jealousy of life. They all have their goals and reasons. The main set of "jealousy of life" are the ones who's minds were wiped (can never remember that Dynasty for the life of me, but they're the oldcrons remade in newcron lore.)

They won't leave the galaxy because there's still trillions of necrons slumbering across the galaxy to awaken and inflate their army/wealth with. Also who's to say there aren't Lords who have tried to flee the milky way and left it?

Isn't there a sphere of energy/radiation around the galaxy anyway (similar to the heliosphere around solar systems) that makes travel between galaxies a rather problematic affair due to radiation and such?

clively wrote:

Decay wrote:
But when he left, he broke the command protocols and left all of the Necrons to fend for themselves, making them free.

That doesn't appear to be in the latest codex. Honestly there isn't much at all about the silent king in the current dex. For some reason GW took out most of that fluff.

Taking out the fluff doesn't mean it's been retconned away. Hell, there's tons of old fluff to this day that hasn't been mentioned in forever but crops back up (Knights, most Forgeworld things, for example...)

The Silent King himself is getting his first Black Library appearance, in fact (the story expanding on the established fluff where he allies with Dante).

Is getting, has gotten, wishes he hadn't.

If I was the Silent King after the events of Word of the Silent King, I would be regretting coming back to save the galaxy. No galaxy where the oldest, wisest living Marine is that stupid deserves to be saved.