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I used to think the same thing about Hunters From Hyperspace. However, I realized how little I used it a second time. The tradeoff is more than worth it.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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Sounds like I just haven't been using them effectively. Here is a question. If Deathmarks mishap and go into Ongoing Reserves, can they deepstrike from ongoing reserves?
   
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Wtf, are... are we seriously last?
(for FAQs)

 
   
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Florence, KY

Blame the people who jinxed it by asking if the Necron FAQ was coming this week before the FAQ dropped

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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There are 2 more FAQs to go - Demons and Crons - so we are not necessarily last.
   
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Daemons still need to come out.
   
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South Dakota

I die a little death each Wednesday that the Necron FAQ don't come out.

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Virginia

 Anpu-adom wrote:
I die a little death each Wednesday that the Necron FAQ don't come out.


I mean, we already know whats going to be in it.

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 krodarklorr wrote:
 Anpu-adom wrote:
I die a little death each Wednesday that the Necron FAQ don't come out.


I mean, we already know whats going to be in it.


contradictions?

It's easy to assume that people arguing an interpretation you disagree with are just looking for an advantage for themselves... But it's quite often not the case.  
   
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South Dakota

 krodarklorr wrote:
 Anpu-adom wrote:
I die a little death each Wednesday that the Necron FAQ don't come out.


I mean, we already know whats going to be in it.


Oh? Do share.

Other than the slew of "Can I do this thing that the rules say I'm not allowed to do?", what else do you predict?

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They'll answer the question about Tesla Sphere firing arc. Firing arc questions seem pretty common among the existing FAQs.

They might address the "within 6''" debate I've heard before. Can a Spyder spawn Scarabs if there is a scarab base 5 and 9/10th inches away or does the entire base need to be within 6''?

The might take another crack at clarifying how RP works against rules like Helfrost. They have been extremely inconsistent with their explanations so far. To quote from another thread:
Bojazz wrote:
4th ruling for FnP/RP vs Special Rules that trigger at the same time which "Remove From Play" after a test. We now have:

- Feel No Pain before Helfrost
- Player chooses the order of Reanimation and Helfrost
- Reanimation and Stasis Bomb cancel each other out
- Feel No Pain and Reanimation before Black Mace

That's 2 rulings towards the potential wound negation effect first. Guess that's how I'm gonna house rule all of them for now, until they decide on a consistent ruling.

   
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The FAQ can clarify whether Adaptive Subroutines is a bubble of influence or an ongoing effect.

The rule is written as if it is an ongoing effect but the ITC plays it as a bubble.

Spoiler:
Adaptive Subroutines:
At the start of each of the controlling player’s Movement phases, choose one of the following special rules: Fleet, Reanimation Protocols, Shred. The Canoptek Spyder from this Formation, and all units from this Formation within 12" of the Canoptek
Spyder from this Formation, benefit from the effects of the chosen special rule until the start of the controlling player’s next Movement phase.


The ITC seems to have gone against RAW and nerfed the Necrons here.

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Considering Necron's FAQ is due out in he next two weeks, now would be a great time to ask for a clarification on that, over on facebook

   
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 adamsouza wrote:
Considering Necron's FAQ is due out in he next two weeks, now would be a great time to ask for a clarification on that, over on facebook


I don't have a facebook account so if someone who does have a facebook account can post that question that would be great.
   
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I'm still hoping they clarify whether Praetorians can get into their own transport... not because i plan on using them that way, but because I can't believe they made such a boneheaded mistake in the first place.

 
   
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Virginia

 Anpu-adom wrote:
 krodarklorr wrote:
 Anpu-adom wrote:
I die a little death each Wednesday that the Necron FAQ don't come out.


I mean, we already know whats going to be in it.


Oh? Do share.

Other than the slew of "Can I do this thing that the rules say I'm not allowed to do?", what else do you predict?


Lance vs Quantum Shielding

Clarifying things such as Praetorians shooting and attacking in melee with their weapons, C'tans and Wraiths charging through terrain and striking at their full initiative, and as other people have mentioned, hopefully a few other clarifications.

Granted, this is GW, so they could go way out in left field with something and we'd never see it coming.

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South Dakota

 krodarklorr wrote:
 Anpu-adom wrote:
 krodarklorr wrote:
 Anpu-adom wrote:
I die a little death each Wednesday that the Necron FAQ don't come out.


I mean, we already know whats going to be in it.


Oh? Do share.

Other than the slew of "Can I do this thing that the rules say I'm not allowed to do?", what else do you predict?


Lance vs Quantum Shielding

Clarifying things such as Praetorians shooting and attacking in melee with their weapons, C'tans and Wraiths charging through terrain and striking at their full initiative, and as other people have mentioned, hopefully a few other clarifications.

Granted, this is GW, so they could go way out in left field with something and we'd never see it coming.


Lance Vs. Quantum Shielding was answered in another FAQ... It's AV 12 until a pen.
I don't understand the question about Praetorians. They can shoot because their weapon has a shooting profile... they can attack because their weapon has a melee profile. You cannot shoot while in melee (unless you count the bonus attack having a pistol gives a model).
C'Tans ans Wraiths charging through terrain at full initiative was answered in a previous Necron FAQ... why would these new FAQ invalidate previous FAQ's?


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 skoffs wrote:
I'm still hoping they clarify whether Praetorians can get into their own transport... not because i plan on using them that way, but because I can't believe they made such a boneheaded mistake in the first place.


Yeah, among the worst examples of proofreading. Once again... I thought that was handleded in a previous FAQ.

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Florence, KY

 Anpu-adom wrote:
I don't understand the question about Praetorians. They can shoot because their weapon has a shooting profile... they can attack because their weapon has a melee profile. You cannot shoot while in melee (unless you count the bonus attack having a pistol gives a model).

The problem was this passage from page 41 of the main rulebook:

Some weapons can be used in combat as well as shooting. Where this is the case, there will be a separate line in the weapon's profile for each, and you can choose which to use each turn.

As worded, that would prevent the use of the Rod of Covenant as a ranged weapon and melee weapon in the same turn. The draft FAQ answered this back in May:

Q: Can you clarify the use of a weapon as both a ranged and a melee weapon in the same turn?
A: A weapon that can be used as a ranged and a melee weapon can be used as both in the same turn unless specifically noted otherwise.


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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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I wonder if they will clarify the Conclave of the Burning One. The Datasheet says "C'tan Shard", and the closest thing (wording wise) are the Shards of the Nightbringer/Deceiver, which is how the tournament FAQs I have seen, play it. The Nightbringer Conclave seems to be the most desirable version, too. Fluff-wise the Burning One is a different C'tan altogether. If they do address it, I wonder if they will say: "Take any C'tan", "Transcendent only", or "Deceiver/Nightbringer only".
   
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Virginia

 Anpu-adom wrote:


Lance Vs. Quantum Shielding was answered in another FAQ... It's AV 12 until a pen.
I don't understand the question about Praetorians. They can shoot because their weapon has a shooting profile... they can attack because their weapon has a melee profile. You cannot shoot while in melee (unless you count the bonus attack having a pistol gives a model).
C'Tans ans Wraiths charging through terrain at full initiative was answered in a previous Necron FAQ... why would these new FAQ invalidate previous FAQ's?


Which FAQ stated the AV12 thing? I need to see this, immediately.

The Praetorian/C'tan/Wraith clarifications were from an earlier draft. When the faction specific one comes out, there's not much more I see them adding/changing.

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 krodarklorr wrote:
 Anpu-adom wrote:


Lance Vs. Quantum Shielding was answered in another FAQ... It's AV 12 until a pen.
I don't understand the question about Praetorians. They can shoot because their weapon has a shooting profile... they can attack because their weapon has a melee profile. You cannot shoot while in melee (unless you count the bonus attack having a pistol gives a model).
C'Tans ans Wraiths charging through terrain at full initiative was answered in a previous Necron FAQ... why would these new FAQ invalidate previous FAQ's?


Which FAQ stated the AV12 thing? I need to see this, immediately.

The Praetorian/C'tan/Wraith clarifications were from an earlier draft. When the faction specific one comes out, there's not much more I see them adding/changing.


BRB Draft FAQ

Q: Which has precedence between a Lance weapon and quantum shielding? Both rules modify what Armour ‘counts as’.
A: The effects cancel out and the normal Armour Values are used.

Other notables form the BRB FAQ

Q: Can a Jet Pack unit that has joined a different unit (e.g. a Necron Destroyer Lord joining Canoptek Wraiths) still use its jet pack move in the Assault phase?
A: Yes, but the model cannot leave its unit and must stay in unit coherency.

Q: If the Veil of Darkness is used while with a group of warriors and you go into Ongoing Reserves due to a Deep Strike Mishap, can you come in by Deep Striking?
A: Only if all of the models involved have the Deep Strike rule.

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col_impact wrote:
 krodarklorr wrote:
 Anpu-adom wrote:


Lance Vs. Quantum Shielding was answered in another FAQ... It's AV 12 until a pen.
I don't understand the question about Praetorians. They can shoot because their weapon has a shooting profile... they can attack because their weapon has a melee profile. You cannot shoot while in melee (unless you count the bonus attack having a pistol gives a model).
C'Tans ans Wraiths charging through terrain at full initiative was answered in a previous Necron FAQ... why would these new FAQ invalidate previous FAQ's?


Which FAQ stated the AV12 thing? I need to see this, immediately.

The Praetorian/C'tan/Wraith clarifications were from an earlier draft. When the faction specific one comes out, there's not much more I see them adding/changing.


BRB Draft FAQ

Q: Which has precedence between a Lance weapon and quantum shielding? Both rules modify what Armour ‘counts as’.
A: The effects cancel out and the normal Armour Values are used.

Which means its AV11, not 12
   
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 CrownAxe wrote:

Which means its AV11, not 12


Very true, which is all the more reason to keep Necron vehicles on the shelf.



I am hoping they just give us some goodie that makes the Barge good again like some justification that a Barge turns pens to glances or something like that. I mean a man can dream can't he?
   
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South Dakota

my bad

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Out of my Mind

Things I'd like to see:
1- Praetorians and their Nightscythe DT. Again, no real tactical reason to do it, but they should have the option.
2- If the model in the challenge fails the Fear test because of MSS, is the rest of the unit affected? If the unit causes Fear, is it two separate tests? (More for just clarity)
3- Keeping a 4+ RP against ID by stacking bonuses. Rarely comes up, but it'd be nice to just get the remaining few to shut up about it.
4- Nemesor Zahndrekh - Can he repick his starting trait? (Not that there is any reason to do so)
5- Retribution Phalanx - Returning Scarab units are starting size (Again, just to end the debate)
6- Triarch Stalker bonus to BS vs. Invisible units?

Hopeful:
Dreads got more attacks, I feel the Triarch Stalker should. It's bad enough we only have the one weapon, no Dread CCW, and we're paying more than most Dreads. I know it probably won't happen, but I can dream a bit right?

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Nemesor definitely can't do that, as otherwise everyone would be infiltrating everything.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Nemesor definitely can't do that, as otherwise everyone would be infiltrating everything.


He can as it stands repick his starting trait though the question is valid. He can't confer infiltrate though so I have no idea what this reference is all about...

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I feel that he can't change is Warlord Trait before the game starts. Infiltrators would be chose at deployment, and that is before the start of the first turn, yes?

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Correct, though I'd like to see them address that one none the less.

 
   
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 Anpu-adom wrote:
I feel that he can't change is Warlord Trait before the game starts. Infiltrators would be chose at deployment, and that is before the start of the first turn, yes?


He is only allowed to pick a new one from the second turn onward, the issue is if he can repick his starting one.

So Turn 1 : Zealot
Turn 2 : reserves reroll
Turn 3 : zealot

You may only pick each one once, but you dont pick zealot at the start, you start with it.
   
 
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