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I'm new to super heavy tanks, and have some questions specifically regarding the typhon. The weapon says 24" range if moved, 48 if it didn't. But the rules in the BRB for super heavy tanks is that they always count as remaining stationary. So does this mean it's always a 48" range? On that same vein, does that mean it can move at cruising speed and still fire the big boom gun?

Thanks in advance.

No. The tank has to remain stationary to fire at 48 inches.

But I think it can move 12 and shoot 24" so 36" threat range.

Its a great tank.

Even though the BRB specifically states "When a super heavy vehicle makes a shooting attack, it is ALWAYS treated as if it had remained STATIONARY in the movement phase (even if it actually moved)... "

Emphasis mine.

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
Even though the BRB specifically states "When a super heavy vehicle makes a shooting attack, it is ALWAYS treated as if it had remained STATIONARY in the movement phase (even if it actually moved)... "

Emphasis mine.

Yes, because if you move (and count as stationary), did you move? Yes or No?

Counting as stationary means you can fire a certain number of guns, etc, but it does not completely replace the fact that you moved. The same applies for artillery rules.


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No. Its pretty clear in the BRB. When a Super-heavy vehicle makes a shooting attack, it is always treated as if it had remained stationary in the Movement phase (even if it actually moved). In this case the weapon will always fire at its maximum range.

The problem is this tank is a Forge World tank. When Apocalypse was re-released in July of 2013 it changed the rules for how super heavy vehicles fire, specifically adding the line about being treated as having remained stationary. This tank is from Imperial Armour 2 2nd Ed. published just 5 months later. Its very likely the rules for this tank where written with the pre-6th edition Apocalypse super heavy rules in mind and 7th edition uses the newer rules. To my knowledge forge world has done nothing to update or correct this problem. So right now RAW the weapon fire 48" all them time. RAI is should only fire 48" if it actually did not move.

The RAI on this is pretty clear though, since the weapon is exclusive to Super-Heavies.
If a rule is made entirely redundant, it's a good indication that something isn't right...

 grendel083 wrote:
The RAI on this is pretty clear though, since the weapon is exclusive to Super-Heavies.
If a rule is made entirely redundant, it's a good indication that something isn't right...

That was my logical thinking. But RAW there is definite conflict. And serious ambiguity. I'm happy that we pretty much all agree that RAI is that if it moves, it's only a 24" range. That's good enough for me, and how I'll play it until there's an official update that says otherwise.

Forgeworld are actually not too bad at replying to emails for clarification if you give it a go - I daresay we know what the answer will be (and that is you can only fire it 24")

The Typhon has its own rules. Specific-> General.