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There's no "Smoking Gun". Only thing so far is she somewhat damaged her integrity. I rather have her run then the other female who seems way to far to the left......I think the one that claimed Native American heritage....Elizabeth Warren I think
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Yeah, she seems extreme, but extreme democrat, not actually of a radical persuasion. She doesn't really seem the type I would want, as she doesn't seem like she would work with the right at all, meaning more partisan gridlock. At this point my preferred type of candidate to win would be a true moderate, with no alligence to any party, but that's never going to happen in this environment.
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
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sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
But, if her server was simply a "homebrew", outside of the current IT best practice and the IS Department's own policies, then this IBD article does have merits.
I'm sure the Clinton family has some rather hefty server security, potentially better than that of Executive Branch, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of doubt.
But, if her server was simply a "homebrew", outside of the current IT best practice and the IS Department's own policies, then this IBD article does have merits.
I'm sure the Clinton family has some rather hefty server security, potentially better than that of Executive Branch, so I'm willing to give her the benefit of doubt.
I call BS on that. Her actions makes no sense whatsoever, other than wanting to control who has access to her emails. That is *the* problem.
I call BS on that. Her actions makes no sense whatsoever, other than wanting to control who has access to her emails. That is *the* problem.
Why is that a problem? Don't all people want to control access to their emails?
Absolutely, 100%, hell-fething-no!
There are NO good reasons for this... absolutely none. She's the Head of the States department, not campaigning on her own time, building her future Presidential career.
If it wasn't HRC, and another person did that... that person would be fired on the spot.
It's utter and complete BS that HRC did this... and I know some IT professional at the States Dept sounded the alarm, but was "squelched" for political reasons.
whembly wrote: One of the thing Rand Paul is appealing to me is that he's rather adamant that we need Justice Reform and Incarceration Reform. He hates... hates, the for-profit-model prison systems.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
So all people don't want to control access to their emails? I know some people aren't sufficiently savvy to do it correctly, but I suspect that they want to.
She's the Head of the States department, not campaigning on her own time, building her future Presidential career.
Those aren't mutually exclusive. Welcome to politics.
I also bet Trey Gowdy has a private email server, likely including messages dealing with Congressional business, should the "American People" be allowed access to that?
There are laws, rules and regulations for a reason.
Why does she get to go unscathed?
Well, sure, you can. The problem is your employer will submit your W2s, so if what you say doesn't match what they say...
I didn't make the rules for Civil Investigative Demands (CIDs). I just work with them for a living. And I agree that there are laws, rules and regulations for a reason. But it's been said, several times from several sources, that she didn't break any of the rules. That's why she gets to go "unscathed".
You guys are lucky - at least your elections are interesting. We've still got 4 weeks to go until voting day in the UK, and I'm losing the will to live.
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: You guys are lucky - at least your elections are interesting. We've still got 4 weeks to go until voting day in the UK, and I'm losing the will to live.
Hey, we did have the picture of Nigel Farage standing next to the "Caution: Slippery" sign!
Had to go and have a lie down after that one!
Also, don't forget we have our own tough politicians here:
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
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Indianapolis may go down in history as the Gettysburg of the culture wars, the place where forces flying the flags of modernism, diversity and individual rights outflanked the would-be upholders of traditional values, forced them into a tactical retreat — and maybe even set them on the road to long-term defeat.
Not since Pickett’s Charge has a group of Americans misjudged their strategic situation more completely than did Gov. Mike Pence and his fellow Republican backers of Indiana’s religious freedom restoration law. They thought they could define conscientious objection to same-sex marriage as the moral high ground, then seize it; they thought wrong.
This made a certain amount of sense. Vigorous capitalist growth depends on savings and investment. To the extent they encouraged Americans to seek their ultimate reward in the afterlife, rather than pursue pleasure in the here and now, old-fashioned religiously based social and moral values promoted a pro-capitalist long-term perspective.
In many ways, though, the free market undermines traditional values. Growth depends on consumption, too, especially so in the postwar U.S. economy. Delayed gratification is bad for sales; a vast corporate marketing apparatus has grown up to discourage it, along with a vast consumer-finance industry.
Sociologist Daniel Bell identified these “cultural contradictions of capitalism” more than 40 years ago. “The breakup of the traditional bourgeois value system,” he wrote, “was brought about by the bourgeois economic system — by the free market, to be precise.”
From this perspective, the gay rights revolution reflects not only expanding notions of justice and equality but also long decades in which the economy, with its “spirit of perpetual innovation,” as Bell called it, conditioned Americans to expect that traditional limitations, of all kinds, could, and should, be overcome.
To be sure, traditionalism retains a powerful residual hold on the American mind, and even staged a comeback of sorts after the turbulent 1960s, the period that prompted Bell’s reflections. In 2004, “moral values” were voters’ top priority, according to exit polls. Not coincidentally, both anti-gay-marriage state ballot questions and Republican President George W. Bush prevailed.
In hindsight, though, that was a high-water mark. Last year, the CNN/ORC poll found that 55 percent of Americans say government should “not favor any set of values,” while only 41 percent want it to “promote traditional values.” The numbers were exactly the reverse 10 years earlier.
Gallup’s May 2014 Values and Belief poll revealed that self-described social-issue conservatives outnumber self-described liberals by only four points, the smallest conservative edge in the 14 years Gallup has been asking that question.
Hence Wal-Mart repudiated a proposed law in Arkansas similar to the one in Indiana, so as to curry favor with a national customer base that’s not only increasingly sympathetic to gay marriage — but also increasingly liberal on many social issues. It’s good business for Honey Maid to run ads during the NCAA men’s basketball tournament depicting two gay men raising children. Slogan: “We serve everyone.”
Where this leaves the GOP in 2016 is anyone’s guess. It could follow an avatar of the old-time conservative religion like Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee or Rick Santorum, and reap a disaster like Pence’s.
Rand Paul’s advice to his party — embrace gay rights, legal marijuana, freer immigration and the like — has the virtue of consistency. It implies a better fit between the party’s free-market economic message and its social platform.
But even if Paul could win the GOP nomination, which he probably can’t, general election voters don’t necessarily want the radical shrinkage of government he has favored.
Paul claims his call for criminal justice reform will help the GOP win black votes. But why would African Americans vote for him over a Democrat who also advocates a big federal role in job creation and civil rights enforcement?
In different ways, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker and Marco Rubio are trying to recalibrate center-right ideology. They advocate reforming government as opposed to hacking away at it a la Paul — while modulating their social-issue pronouncements.
An approach like that produced surprising 2014 wins for GOP gubernatorial candidates in blue states such as Illinois, Massachusetts and Maryland. Whether it will play nationally in a presidential year, with a larger, more Democratic, electorate, is a different question.
Having straddled Bell’s cultural contradictions for so long, the Republican Party seems poorly equipped to overcome them now. Its leaders formed their beliefs, made their careers and established their records at a time when the political benefits of moral traditionalism still exceeded the costs. That time is coming to an end.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: You guys are lucky - at least your elections are interesting. We've still got 4 weeks to go until voting day in the UK, and I'm losing the will to live.
Hey, we did have the picture of Nigel Farage standing next to the "Caution: Slippery" sign!
Had to go and have a lie down after that one!
Also, don't forget we have our own tough politicians here:
That was a total embarrassment and turned my face red. I feel sorry for labour members after seeing that!
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I've said this before, but I've always seen the Republicans as champions of individual liberty. So why aren't they defending people's right to marry who they want? Why is America, the land of freedom, not allowing people the right to ingest whatever drugs they want? Yeah, I know about those 2 states allowing marijuana, but why aren't the Republicans championing this nationwide?
It's all very strange...
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
I've said this before, but I've always seen the Republicans as champions of individual liberty. So why aren't they defending people's right to marry who they want? Why is America, the land of freedom, not allowing people the right to ingest whatever drugs they want? Yeah, I know about those 2 states allowing marijuana, but why aren't the Republicans championing this nationwide?
It's all very strange...
Thats the libertarian side of the party. The conservative side of the party is not concerned with that, so long as they are the ones doing the ordering about. In that manner they've become very much like the hard left Democrats.
In the end, the wings of both parties want to tell you what to do, just over different things.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I've said this before, but I've always seen the Republicans as champions of individual liberty. So why aren't they defending people's right to marry who they want? Why is America, the land of freedom, not allowing people the right to ingest whatever drugs they want? Yeah, I know about those 2 states allowing marijuana, but why aren't the Republicans championing this nationwide?
It's all very strange...
Thats the libertarian side of the party. The conservative side of the party is not concerned with that, so long as they are the ones doing the ordering about. In that manner they've become very much like the hard left Democrats.
In the end, the wings of both parties want to tell you what to do, just over different things.
Frazz, your country is probably the most liberal country the world has ever seen. It trusts its citizens to walk around with lethal firearms, and yet, it won't even trust them to marry who they want or to inject whatever drugs they want. So long as nobody is getting hurt, I don't see a problem.
I will forever be confused when looking at the USA
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Co'tor Shas wrote: Because the religious right is a reliable voter group. They have been waning, so we may see a change in the future.
It's hard to believe that somebody like Goldwater was probably the last libertarian the Republicans had. Very strange.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Frazz, your country is probably the most liberal country the world has ever seen. It trusts its citizens to walk around with lethal firearms, and yet, it won't even trust them to marry who they want or to inject whatever drugs they want. So long as nobody is getting hurt, I don't see a problem.
I will forever be confused when looking at the USA
We need the guns to protect ourselves from the villainous gay junkies.....or something...
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Frazz, your country is probably the most liberal country the world has ever seen. It trusts its citizens to walk around with lethal firearms, and yet, it won't even trust them to marry who they want or to inject whatever drugs they want. So long as nobody is getting hurt, I don't see a problem.
I will forever be confused when looking at the USA
We need the guns to protect ourselves from the villainous gay junkies.....or something...
Gun full zones help keep back the relentless tide of zombie Californians flooding out of that state. vast herds have been spotted in Utah, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, and central Texas. I fear the etnrie West Coast may have fallen to the zombie California menace.
In actuality (no not about the zombies those are completely real) studies of younger Republican demographics are far more socially accepting.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Wow...in North Korea one gets to learn how to drive a POV at the age of three
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Frazz, your country is probably the most liberal country the world has ever seen. It trusts its citizens to walk around with lethal firearms, and yet, it won't even trust them to marry who they want or to inject whatever drugs they want. So long as nobody is getting hurt, I don't see a problem.
I will forever be confused when looking at the USA
Remember who it was that originally crossed the Atlantic to found the colonies that would become the US. When the Catholic Church and the Church of England were having their schism over who deserved to wear the bigger pointy hat, there was a group of people who looked at the two groups murdering each other and though to themselves "THOSE DUDES AREN'T HARDCORE ENOUGH". Those guys put on their buckled shoes, their dresses up to their eyeballs, and set sail to find a new place to be complete miserable in.
Puritanism: that haunting fear that someone, somewhere, just might be happy.
Frazz, your country is probably the most liberal country the world has ever seen. It trusts its citizens to walk around with lethal firearms, and yet, it won't even trust them to marry who they want or to inject whatever drugs they want. So long as nobody is getting hurt, I don't see a problem.
I will forever be confused when looking at the USA
Remember who it was that originally crossed the Atlantic to found the colonies that would become the US. When the Catholic Church and the Church of England were having their schism over who deserved to wear the bigger pointy hat, there was a group of people who looked at the two groups murdering each other and though to themselves "THOSE DUDES AREN'T HARDCORE ENOUGH". Those guys put on their buckled shoes, their dresses up to their eyeballs, and set sail to find a new place to be complete miserable in.
Puritanism: that haunting fear that someone, somewhere, just might be happy.
Typical America - any excuse to blame Britain
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Co'tor Shas wrote: Honestly, the US is this weird mix of extreme liberalism and extreme conservatism. It's always been a dynamic country, and probably always will be.
What I wanted to say.
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Easy E wrote: So, our only two official Presidential candidates are Ted Cruz and Rand Paul?
Clinton this Sunday.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I've been keeping an eye American events these past couple of days, and I don't mean the golf
Anyway, this is what caught my eye.
1) The annual NRA convention in Tennessee. Al Jazeera did a feature so I looked further with previews and last year's highlights. . Wow. I knew you guys loved your gunpowder, but this is hardcore. Bars of soap shaped like guns, guns made out of chocolate, guns left right and centre. One guy was so weighed down with guns, he could barely walk
The sad part was, though, there were still some people who are convinced Obama and the UN are going to take away their weapons...
2) US-Cuba talks. How much of an influence will this have on the 2016 race?
and a final question. If Hilary Clinton makes a run for the white house, are people voting for Hilary, or do they think they're actually getting Bill back at 1600 Pennsylvania?
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
and a final question. If Hilary Clinton makes a run for the white house, are people voting for Hilary, or do they think they're actually getting Bill back at 1600 Pennsylvania?
There will be some combination of both, and a lot of folks Making A Historical Vote for The First Woman President! who couldn't tell you what she stands for/against. And some who vote for her because she has a D after her name.
All of those will also be reasons folks vote against her...
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Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
and a final question. If Hilary Clinton makes a run for the white house, are people voting for Hilary, or do they think they're actually getting Bill back at 1600 Pennsylvania?
There will be some combination of both, and a lot of folks Making A Historical Vote for The First Woman President! who couldn't tell you what she stands for/against. And some who vote for her because she has a D after her name.
All of those will also be reasons folks vote against her...
I miss the 1990s. X files on the TV, Bill in the White House, rubbish clothes, and decent music. And I was younger...a lot younger! It was peaceful back then. The Commies had been defeated, Al Qaeda was a town in Iraq, and a man knew where he stood. Changed days...
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Nah, not blaming Britain. It's been a couple centuries since then, but it still is the root of our "nipple bad, murder totally okay" mentality. Like most things, we've just made it bigger and better.
Three first termers running. Be a bit hard for the Left to use the fact they only serve one term in the Senate/House/Whatever with Obama in the WH
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