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sebster wrote: But they aren’t the most qualified person in that clinic – you don’t need sexism to explain why a two year course is seen differently from a 6+ year course.
Then why are NPs less respected than MDs? After all MDs usually only get 8-9 years of formal education, after which the informal requirement of residency begins; something NPs likely completed as RNs during their 6-8 year education.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Because people are idiots Dogma. The nurse is the one that keeps you alive, notices reactions to medications and circumstances and makes it possible for doctors to do their job. Without nurses, doctors are useless. Big statement true, but without the nurses doing regular obs the doctor has no idea what is happening.
Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
dogma wrote: Then why are NPs less respected than MDs? After all MDs usually only get 8-9 years of formal education, after which the informal requirement of residency begins; something NPs likely completed as RNs during their 6-8 year education.
I'd guess that few people have any idea about the different types of nursing. I doubt many people hear NP and think 'masters level qualification'.
Again, I'm not saying there isn't some element of sexism in play here, just that there's another issue that's more prominent - the demand for the most healthcare possible, even when it’s overkill or entirely pointless. It’s why people walk in with a viral infection and walk out with a prescription for anti-biotics.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Wouldn't it actually be more country-ist, nation-ist, or whatever?
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
There’s a basic truth at the core of what she’s saying – the nation of China really sucks at innovation. This is because it’s a state planned economy with heavy levels of government intervention and oversight really hurts open and diverse creativity.
Fiorina has not only noted that issue, she’s experienced it directly in her dealings with China. But she’s then gone straight making it part to some kind of cultural or inherent thing in Chinese people, rather than a product of China’s systems. So I don’t want to call it poorly worded, because it’s more than that - poorly thought through is probably the better way of explaining what’s wrong with she said. But there really isn’t much of a news story in ‘politician is somewhat right in their observation, but fairly wrongheaded in thinking about why that thing exists’.
So of course the political angle is to call it racist, but it’s a very weak attack because she’s clearly talking about people in China, not everyone of Chinese descent. But you know, that’s politics, it’s really no different to the efforts to try and invent a story of corruption out of the Clinton Foundation, or any of the other minor things that people try to contort in to big stories at this stage of election season.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Eh... it feeds into a stereotype that shouldn't really be expoused by a potential President.
It's tapping into the fear that foreigners are stealing US jobs and at the same time, she's trying to be a cheerleader for that American Exceptionalism™ trope.
Although, I do hope that she makes it to the debate cutoff... if to keep Trump off.
whembly wrote: It's tapping into the fear that foreigners are stealing US jobs and at the same time, she's trying to be a cheerleader for that American Exceptionalism™ trope.
Which is odd because she's a known supporter of the H-1B visa program. Unless of course she's changed her mind.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
whembly wrote: It's tapping into the fear that foreigners are stealing US jobs and at the same time, she's trying to be a cheerleader for that American Exceptionalism™ trope.
Which is odd because she's a known supporter of the H-1B visa program. Unless of course she's changed her mind.
Not really.
She's a businesswoman... who's been a CEO.
Ask yourself a few questions:
So, what was her job?
Spoiler:
-answer: as CEO, to maximize shareholder's value.
Why should she support the visa proram?
Spoiler:
-answer: Labor is one of the largest cost of doing business... as CEO, it's her job to maximize productivity while keep cost as low as possible. Hiring cheaper labor is one way of doing that.
As long as she frames her answer along those lines, she'll be fine.
whembly wrote: She's a businesswoman... who's been a CEO.
A terrible CEO, I might add.
As long as she frames her answer along those lines, she'll be fine.
No she won't because she won't make it anywhere. Besides, those "answers" you gave are a terrible defense to the question of why she supports a program largely criticized for replacing American workers with cheap, foreign replacements.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
whembly wrote: It's tapping into the fear that foreigners are stealing US jobs and at the same time, she's trying to be a cheerleader for that American Exceptionalism™ trope.
Which is odd because she's a known supporter of the H-1B visa program. Unless of course she's changed her mind.
Not really.
She's a businesswoman... who's been a CEO.
Ask yourself a few questions:
So, what was her job?
Spoiler:
-answer: as CEO, to maximize shareholder's value.
Why should she support the visa proram?
Spoiler:
-answer: Labor is one of the largest cost of doing business... as CEO, it's her job to maximize productivity while keep cost as low as possible. Hiring cheaper labor is one way of doing that.
As long as she frames her answer along those lines, she'll be fine.
Not for me. I will never ever ever vote for her. I'd vote for Billary before that .
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
whembly wrote: She's a businesswoman... who's been a CEO.
A terrible CEO, I might add.
Arguable... HP's strength wouldn't have existing w/o her push. (merging w/ Compaq & divesting printer business from enterprise solutions)
As long as she frames her answer along those lines, she'll be fine.
No she won't because she won't make it anywhere. Besides, those "answers" you gave are a terrible defense to the question of why she supports a program largely criticized for replacing American workers with cheap, foreign replacements.
Then you have no concept in what's the CEO's role in a company.
whembly wrote: It's tapping into the fear that foreigners are stealing US jobs and at the same time, she's trying to be a cheerleader for that American Exceptionalism™ trope.
Which is odd because she's a known supporter of the H-1B visa program. Unless of course she's changed her mind.
Not really.
She's a businesswoman... who's been a CEO.
Ask yourself a few questions:
So, what was her job?
Spoiler:
-answer: as CEO, to maximize shareholder's value.
Why should she support the visa proram?
Spoiler:
-answer: Labor is one of the largest cost of doing business... as CEO, it's her job to maximize productivity while keep cost as low as possible. Hiring cheaper labor is one way of doing that.
As long as she frames her answer along those lines, she'll be fine.
Not for me. I will never ever ever vote for her. I'd vote for Billary before that .
Fair enough...
It's basically the same problem that Romney faced.
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Didn't vote for him either. I know those Bain...people.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I'd figure the TX GOP would be pulling hard for Perry...
Also... stay classy AP... stay classy:
Spoiler:
The hardcores are. These are the same people who call Cornyn a "libtard."
There was a lot of love/hate with Perry. they liked Perry, but the vaccination issue lost him the mouthbreather militia member vote, which has now gone to Cruz.
Cruz has started to disappoint as well.
Thats why Team TBone sees an opening. Remember folks, a vote for the Wiener Dog Party is a vote for Freedom!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Then you have no concept in what's the CEO's role in a company.
But she isn't running for the role of a CEO, right? Supporting something because it is good for your company isn't necessarily going to impress people come election time.
one would hope the job of POTUS is not to run the country into the ground as badly as she did HP...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
whembly wrote: Arguable... HP's strength wouldn't have existing w/o her push. (merging w/ Compaq & divesting printer business from enterprise solutions)
...and laying off thousands of employees, destroying employee satisfaction, and halving HP's stock prices.
You're so predictable... You fret endlessly about what the Clintons and their foundation did with money, while the performance of a person that nearly destroyed a successful company before they were gak-canned is only "arguably" bad.
Then you have no concept in what's the CEO's role in a company.
Unsurprisingly, you misunderstood my point, either honestly or intentionally in order to get a jab in.
This has nothing to do with what I think (or know, in reality) what a CEO does. Those answers are not good enough for a person running for President and will not sway any voter that already has a negative opinion on immigration (like, you know, the entire Republican base). It was a nice dodge though.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
Frazzled wrote: one would hope the job of POTUS is not to run the country into the ground as badly as she did HP...
Okay...let’s set the record straight… I think she's a far more appealing candidate than most of the candidates we have today.
Here's we go...
She was chosen to be VP at At&T where she did an amazing job.
Then, she was chosen to be CEO of Lucent, again an amazing job.
If you want to criticise her HP tenure, that's fair game. If you do that, don't you think she should be given *some* credit for both her AT&T and Lucent tenure???
So, let's talk about her tenure as CEO of HP...
Here are the facts, HP was on the ropes, it was losing market share and was behind the times... her merger with Compaq, as controversial at the times (Walter Hewlett fething fought tooth and nail ), is now credited with not only saving HP, but making it the premiere IT company it is today.
She opened up Central and South America to the HP printing business, a HUGE move which solidified HP in that market area.
Her merger with Compaq killed Compaq and nearly killed HP. Thousands and thousands were laid off in that fiasco.
She sucked eggs and got fired, hard.
You may think thats a winning strategy for a Presidential candidate but its probably the only way Sanders could win. Yes, even the Socialist would beat her....like Fiorina at a classic Compaq computer convention...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
You may think thats a winning strategy for a Presidential candidate but its probably the only way Sanders could win. Yes, even the Socialist would beat her....like Fiorina at a classic Compaq computer convention...
let's not kid ourselves...
Hillary is going to win... and win handily.
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Yup... she lost her job over a very unpopular decision (the merger)... which many of the industry now praise her for taking that step.
And many more condemn.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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