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Didn't watch the debate last night but I hear it was another zoo. Did any candidate say anything substantial or was it all the same stuff?

Bush and the Democrats sitting in a tree.

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

Nah apparently nothing too good, Cruz or Rubio (I forget which, I was having the details relayed to me as I couldn't watch) apparently straight up beat Bush, Carson looked asleep and no one else did anything worth noting. Still too many people to have substantive debate.

Sounds like the moderators were trying to get fights going and throwing gotcha questions.

The moderators were a bit aggressive and at times seemed to be using loaded questions to debate the candidates directly.

They framed their questions the way they did in an attempting to either cast the candidates in a bad light or force them to defend against a false implication.

Q: Senator, in light of recent highly edited videos, you put forth a bill to defund Planned Parenthood. Senator, why do you hate women? (they didn't actually ask this one - this is just an example of how they were forming their questions)

Here is Senator Cruz's moment in the sun where he body-slammed the CNBC panel for their tactics.

Eh, they fell for it. If they want to prove they are ready to be president, they wouldn't fall for the really obvious traps, and keep away from pointless bickering.

Paul Ryan the new House Speaker...



America, I love your food, your culture, your history, your women

But sometimes I despair at the stupid things you do

Paul Ryan? God help America...

EDIT. Just because I said I loved America, doesn't mean to say I want to be an America. Mods: why is my location being shown as the USA, despite the fact I'm sitting in a house in the middle of the Scottish Highlands!!!

Get it sorted!!! This is the 2nd time this has happened!!!

Scottland will be the 52nd state, right after Puerto Rico.

Deep down, you know it to be true!

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

EDIT. Just because I said I loved America, doesn't mean to say I want to be an America. Mods: why is my location being shown as the USA, despite the fact I'm sitting in a house in the middle of the Scottish Highlands!!!

Get it sorted!!! This is the 2nd time this has happened!!!

Probably has something to do with the (mostly correct) notion that 'Scottish Highlands' equates to 'Appalachians' since most Real Scotts migrated over after the Crown beat them down.

 CptJake wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

EDIT. Just because I said I loved America, doesn't mean to say I want to be an America. Mods: why is my location being shown as the USA, despite the fact I'm sitting in a house in the middle of the Scottish Highlands!!!

Get it sorted!!! This is the 2nd time this has happened!!!

Probably has something to do with the (mostly correct) notion that 'Scottish Highlands' equates to 'Appalachians' since most Real Scotts migrated over after the Crown beat them down.

I'll repeat what I said the last time this happened: I'm glad I'm collecting a Confederate army for civil war games. Damn Yankees


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 kronk wrote:
Scottland will be the 52nd state, right after Puerto Rico.

Deep down, you know it to be true!

You can have our whisky (note the CORRECT spelling ) when you prise it from our cold dead hands.

Bourbon > Whiskey!

 kronk wrote:
Bourbon > Whiskey!

True statement. Tennessee sippin whiskey > bourbon is still up for debate.

Somebody get me a rowing boat. It's high time I headed across the Atlantic and introduced my left foot to the rears of two dakka members

Bourbon? Points and laughs

But... I thought bourbon was whiskey, just under a different name. Like Scotch.

 Breotan wrote:

Q: Senator, in light of recent highly edited videos, you put forth a bill to defund Planned Parenthood. Senator, why do you hate women? (they didn't actually ask this one - this is just an example of how they were forming their questions)

Why not cite the questions that actually were asked? Why make things up? I mean, if the questions were equivalent to your fabrication there should be no need for it.

An accurate article.

 dogma wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

Q: Senator, in light of recent highly edited videos, you put forth a bill to defund Planned Parenthood. Senator, why do you hate women? (they didn't actually ask this one - this is just an example of how they were forming their questions)

Why not cite the questions that actually were asked? Why make things up?

How dare you suggest we use quotes instead of making things up.
Indeed, I go so far as to say ...

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Somebody get me a rowing boat. It's high time I headed across the Atlantic and introduced my left foot to the rears of two dakka members

Bourbon? Points and laughs

(puts on his stained wife beater T-shirt and Daisy Dukes)
Bring it cowboy. Your wussy whiskey is stilled from barrels we've already used and thrown away. british Whiskey, the finest recycled whiskey this side of Liverpool!

I'm trying to find some debate questions. This back and forth seems very unprofessional, though. Funny, but unprofessional.


Asked if Trump has the moral authority to lead the country, Mike Huckabee responds, “I love Donald Trump. He is a good man. I’m wearing a Trump tie tonight. Get over that one."

"Is it made in China or Mexico?" asks a moderator. Huckabee says he doesn't know.

Trump cuts in to say, "Such a nasty question, but thank you governor.”

found a transcript: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/29/us/politics/transcript-republican-presidential-debate.html?_r=0

My favorite part of the night was when the female moderator asked Trump why he opposed immigration on a H1B Visa and his criticism of Mark Zuckerberg. Trump claimed he never did that. She then asked where she saw that then and Trump said, "I have no idea, you are the guys who write this stuff" before he changed the topic. She looked pretty bad at that point.

Then later she said where she had read it, “I read it on the Donald J. Trump website,”

1. Straight from the DNC:
HARWOOD: Mr. Trump, you’ve done very well in this campaign so far by promising to build a wall and make another country pay for it.

TRUMP: Right.

HARWOOD: Send 11 million people out of the country. Cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit.

TRUMP: Right.

HARWOOD: And make Americans better off because your greatness would replace the stupidity and incompetence of others.

TRUMP: That’s right.

HARWOOD: Let’s be honest.

(LAUGHTER)

Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?

Quite a few substantive questions in that transcript. Perhaps young Cruz was wrong.

Perhaps your bias is showing.

 Frazzled wrote:
Perhaps your bias is showing.

Your bias is showing.

Interesting.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/factchecking-the-cnbc-debates/

Some of these talking points are staggering in how they are scientifically classified as 'blatant, over, extremely provable lies'.

Wait Frazz, do you honestly think that claiming you are going to make Mexico pay for a wall across the southern border, deport 11 million people, and cut 10 trillion in taxes without increasing the deficit isn't purely a laughable work of fiction?

Actually, it may have been one of the candidates or the moderators. It's unclear.

HUCKABEE: You know, of the few questions I’ve got, the last one I need is to give him some more time. I love Donald Trump. He is a good man. I’m wearing a Trump tie tonight. Get over that one, OK?

(APPLAUSE)

(CROSSTALK)

(UNKNOWN): Is it made in Mexico?

HUCKABEE: I don’t know.

(UNKNOWN): Where’s it made? Is it made in China?

(UNKNOWN): Is it made in China or Mexico?

HUCKABEE: I have no idea.

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: Such a nasty — such a nasty question, but thank you, Governor.

HUCKABEE: You’re welcome.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Perhaps your bias is showing.

Your bias is showing.

You're right. I'm biased against stupid moderators.

Personally I've quit watching the debates. I'm already done with the whole thing. I want to see who the parties put forth so I can then decide whether to vote Libertarian or Greens again.

 kronk wrote:
Actually, it may have been one of the candidates or the moderators. It's unclear.

HUCKABEE: You know, of the few questions I’ve got, the last one I need is to give him some more time. I love Donald Trump. He is a good man. I’m wearing a Trump tie tonight. Get over that one, OK?

(APPLAUSE)

(CROSSTALK)

(UNKNOWN): Is it made in Mexico?

HUCKABEE: I don’t know.

(UNKNOWN): Where’s it made? Is it made in China?

(UNKNOWN): Is it made in China or Mexico?

HUCKABEE: I have no idea.

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: Such a nasty — such a nasty question, but thank you, Governor.

HUCKABEE: You’re welcome.

Actually, the question about where it was made was asked by Bush. When Trump was referring to the nasty question, he was talking about the original question the moderator asked Huckabee, not about where the tie was made. I'm not even sure Trump heard the origin of the tie question as there was a lot of crosstalk at that point.

Having just watched the debate highlights, I'll admit that there were an awful lot of character assassination questions being thrown around by the moderators.

Only an idiot would be bothered by the candidates being asked these type of questions though- this is the third Republican debate and we really don't need more "mr candidate... how would you make American safe durrr" questions.

I would love to see the DNC get quizzed the way the conservatives did last night.

Edited by RiTides

I would love to see the DNC get quizzed the way the conservatives did last night.

We both know that will never ever ever happen.

 Frazzled wrote:
Perhaps your bias is showing.

My bias is towards intelligence. Ted Cruz's response was not intelligent, it was an idiotic deflection; one which has been bolstered by conservative media.