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 LordofHats wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Typical of what-revealing your own prejudice?


Yes. I am prejudiced against religious loons who spoil their own children's future because they're so arrogant they think they know the mind of God < This is literally listed out right as one of the gravest Sins any human being can make (for those who haven't read their NT, or selectively cheery pick it )


So in your world view this is typical? Please cite statistics to support this is "typical."

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 kronk wrote:


This part of that is surprising:

Like many homeschoolers, the McIntyre family in El Paso was given wide latitude in their children’s education. They had almost no oversight from educators. They were never required to follow a curriculum or have their children take standardized tests like children in public (and most private) schools do. The results weren’t pretty: The children learned almost nothing they couldn’t learn in Sunday school.


Texas DOES require home schooled kids to take the same standardized tests. That part is BS. My wife was a teacher in Texas, and is now working for the state here in IL. I'll just say that not every state has a strict of a set of home schooling rules as Texas does, sadly. in IL, you can just say "I'm homeschooling my child" and withdraw them with no penalty or oversight. NOT TRUE in Texas, where you have to take yearly standardized tests and maintain a minimal level on your results.


feth standardized testing. The system here in NY before the common core worked fine (one of the best public school systems in the country). Now we have the goddamn common core tests, and another wave of teacher-blaming. I'm just glad I graduated before the main wave of tests hit.

It would be nice to have well-designed education rules made by actual teaching professionals (teachers, administators, ect) but the common core is anything but. And leads to even more "teaching for the test".

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They had teaching for the standardized tests when I was in elementary school in the early 1980s. Nothing new, there.

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Not new here either, but at least it was mostly from NY it'self. And weren't so badly designed.

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 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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4th Obelisk On The Right

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/02/reports-hacktivist-groud-anonymous-publishes-names-alleged-ku-klux-klan-members/75039282/

Anonymous claims to have leaked KKK members online and some Republican leaders are on there. So fake or is this going to blow up into a big scandal?

 
   
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 BrotherGecko wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/02/reports-hacktivist-groud-anonymous-publishes-names-alleged-ku-klux-klan-members/75039282/

Anonymous claims to have leaked KKK members online and some Republican leaders are on there. So fake or is this going to blow up into a big scandal?


"claiming to be with the hacktivist group Anonymous"

And I stopped reading.

I wouldn't believe anything from those losers.

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I am sure its as real as the Clintons murdering Vince Foster.

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I doubt it, but let's have Benghazi hearings anyway. We got the money to throw around for specious political gains, right? The KKK is reprehensible, but I just screened Birth of a Nation the other day for one of my classes, and damn if Griffith didn't know what he was doing as a filmmaker.

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 BrotherGecko wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/02/reports-hacktivist-groud-anonymous-publishes-names-alleged-ku-klux-klan-members/75039282/

Anonymous claims to have leaked KKK members online and some Republican leaders are on there. So fake or is this going to blow up into a big scandal?


Is it plausible? Yes and no. It's entirely believable that some members of the far right end of the party would agree with the KKK, and the far right end of republican voters certainly does. On the other hand, I doubt anyone too important on the national level is a KKK member. Even if the party leadership wouldn't have a problem with their racism they'd be insane to allow that kind of potential scandal to exist. So I'd be very skeptical of any claim that any important names on the list are legitimate.

Is it true? Who knows. The more important question is what evidence they provide to support the names. I could easily make a list of forum members here who are associated with the KKK, but that doesn't make it true. Without supporting evidence the list is worthless.

Will it blow up? That depends on what evidence is provided, and who is on the list. If important national-level party members are on the list and there's convincing evidence to support the claim then it's a huge scandal that will instantly end the careers of everyone involved and quite possibly end the republican party as a relevant player in US politics. But if it's just some weak claims about state politicians and a one-term house member or two then the party will put out the usual form letters about not endorsing racism and the whole thing will be quickly forgotten.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/02/reports-hacktivist-groud-anonymous-publishes-names-alleged-ku-klux-klan-members/75039282/

Anonymous claims to have leaked KKK members online and some Republican leaders are on there. So fake or is this going to blow up into a big scandal?


Is it plausible? Yes and no. It's entirely believable that some members of the far right end of the party would agree with the KKK, and the far right end of republican voters certainly does. On the other hand, I doubt anyone too important on the national level is a KKK member. Even if the party leadership wouldn't have a problem with their racism they'd be insane to allow that kind of potential scandal to exist. So I'd be very skeptical of any claim that any important names on the list are legitimate.

Is it true? Who knows. The more important question is what evidence they provide to support the names. I could easily make a list of forum members here who are associated with the KKK, but that doesn't make it true. Without supporting evidence the list is worthless.

Will it blow up? That depends on what evidence is provided, and who is on the list. If important national-level party members are on the list and there's convincing evidence to support the claim then it's a huge scandal that will instantly end the careers of everyone involved and quite possibly end the republican party as a relevant player in US politics. But if it's just some weak claims about state politicians and a one-term house member or two then the party will put out the usual form letters about not endorsing racism and the whole thing will be quickly forgotten.

Not plausible at all... considering the source.

This is the same group that "outed" Officer Wilson in Ferguson like three times.... and each of them were the wrong Wilson.

Feth them.

Also... you conveniently ignore the history of the KKK as it was a bunch of Democrats.

Regardless... it didn't destroy Robert Byrd's career towards US Senate either.

So... go ahead... I'm willing to go with a full Benghazi-like Committee Review. But, let's review ALL US Representative and ALL US Senator while we're at it.

Cool?

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 whembly wrote:
Not plausible at all... considering the source.


Did you even read what I said? I said that it's plausible that some republicans (but probably not any important ones) are KKK members because the republican party includes the racist right, not that the source is a credible one. In fact I explicitly stated that the list alone is worthless without supporting evidence.

Also... you conveniently ignore the history of the KKK as it was a bunch of Democrats.


And you conveniently ignore that this was before the parties swapped left/right alignments.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Not plausible at all... considering the source.


Did you even read what I said? I said that it's plausible that some republicans (but probably not any important ones) are KKK members because the republican party includes the racist right, not that the source is a credible one. In fact I explicitly stated that the list alone is worthless without supporting evidence.

You're trying to rationalize any glimmer of hope to hang something on the GOP as the racist party... and it hasn't worked.

Also... you conveniently ignore the history of the KKK as it was a bunch of Democrats.


And you conveniently ignore that this was before the parties swapped left/right alignments.

Nope. The parties swap has always been BS as it's an attempt to whitewhash the racist Democrat history. It's more complicated than the racist switched sides.

The Republicans in the 60's (or older) are NOT the current Democrat Party.

Still... you haven't acknowledged Robert Bryd... a very prominent member of the modern Democratic party.

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4th Obelisk On The Right

Letting loose a bunch of Yabbuts out of the cage is bad for discussion. Everybody knows the history of the Repubs and Dems. None of it matters or is honestly of any particular relevance in a 2015.

The individual releasing the list isn't a credible source a the moment. We are supposed to get more information in the next two days. That information will be what proves anything of importance.

Personally, I doubt even if a major political figure of either party was found to be affiliated with the KKK it will damage their career. We have Carump, HRC and Truson running for president unironically. Hell, in my own hometown people refuse to believe Kilpatrick did any wrong. D.C. had a mayor get busted doing cocaine...he was good to go.

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 whembly wrote:
You're trying to rationalize any glimmer of hope to hang something on the GOP as the racist party... and it hasn't worked.


Are you seriously trying to deny that the far right in the US is the end of the political scale that racists most commonly identify with?

Nope. The parties swap has always been BS as it's an attempt to whitewhash the racist Democrat history. It's more complicated than the racist switched sides.

The Republicans in the 60's (or older) are NOT the current Democrat Party.


That's not what I said. The racists didn't literally just switch sides, but the left/right alignment indisputably is not the same as it used to be. The racist democrats of that era were leftovers from a time when the democrats were the conservative pro-slavery party. But the democrats of the late 1800s have nothing to do with the party platform of 2015.

Still... you haven't acknowledged Robert Bryd... a very prominent member of the modern Democratic party.


What is there to acknowledge? He was young and stupid, joined the KKK back in the 1940s, and soon left it. And he later expressed regret for his actions and explicitly stated that he no longer supported the KKK in any way. And, in case you didn't notice, he's also dead. So I fail to see what an example of a democrat who was a KKK member 70 years ago has to do with a list of modern republicans who are supposedly currently KKK members.


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 BrotherGecko wrote:
Personally, I doubt even if a major political figure of either party was found to be affiliated with the KKK it will damage their career. We have Carump, HRC and Truson running for president unironically.


It certainly will. You can be racist in the US and win elections, but you have to at least disguise it a bit so that the uninformed middle doesn't reject you. But even the uninformed middle knows that the KKK is really bad and won't vote for a KKK member.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 whembly wrote:
You're trying to rationalize any glimmer of hope to hang something on the GOP as the racist party... and it hasn't worked.


Are you seriously trying to deny that the far right in the US is the end of the political scale that racists most commonly identify with?

I'm denying the "most commonly" part.

Racist exists in all walks of life. Sorry to burst your bubble in any attempt to demagogue the Republican party as the racist party in the US.

Nope. The parties swap has always been BS as it's an attempt to whitewhash the racist Democrat history. It's more complicated than the racist switched sides.

The Republicans in the 60's (or older) are NOT the current Democrat Party.


That's not what I said. The racists didn't literally just switch sides, but the left/right alignment indisputably is not the same as it used to be. The racist democrats of that era were leftovers from a time when the democrats were the conservative pro-slavery party. But the democrats of the late 1800s have nothing to do with the party platform of 2015.

Sure. Still doesn't support your claims that Conservatives or the GOP are "The" racist party.

In fact... that's really highly insulting, as there there "isn't" a racist party these days.

Still... you haven't acknowledged Robert Bryd... a very prominent member of the modern Democratic party.


What is there to acknowledge? He was young and stupid, joined the KKK back in the 1940s, and soon left it. And he later expressed regret for his actions and explicitly stated that he no longer supported the KKK in any way. And, in case you didn't notice, he's also dead. So I fail to see what an example of a democrat who was a KKK member 70 years ago has to do with a list of modern republicans who are supposedly currently KKK members.

Had Byrd been a Republican... do you think he'd be as successful in politics with this skeleton out of the closet?

Exactly.

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 whembly wrote:
I'm denying the "most commonly" part.

Racist exists in all walks of life. Sorry to burst your bubble in any attempt to demagogue the Republican party as the racist party in the US.


Have you been paying any attention to stuff like the confederate flag train wreck?

Sure. Still doesn't support your claims that Conservatives or the GOP are "The" racist party.

In fact... that's really highly insulting, as there there "isn't" a racist party these days.


That's not what I said. Seriously, there's a difference between "the GOP is the racist party" and "racists are usually on the right end of the left/right scale and vote republican".

Had Byrd been a Republican... do you think he'd be as successful in politics with this skeleton out of the closet?

Exactly.


I suspect he would have done just fine. But what does this hypothetical have to do with anything here? It seems like your entire argument against the list is nothing more than "democrats suck too".

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 Peregrine wrote:

I suspect he would have done just fine. But what does this hypothetical have to do with anything here? It seems like your entire argument against the list is nothing more than "democrats suck too".


I don't think anybody is really surprised at the whataboutism that always gets thrown around.
   
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It didn't sound like he said that the R's are rasicts, just that racists are more likely to be R's. Which makes sense. Racism and liberalism tend no to go hand in hand. Racism is a reactionary thing, and the R's attract the conservatives and the reactionaries. Does this mean that the R's are a racist party, no. In fact, I'd posit Carson's success is proof that the R's aren't a racist party.

Edit: double ninjaed

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Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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 Peregrine wrote:
 whembly wrote:
I'm denying the "most commonly" part.

Racist exists in all walks of life. Sorry to burst your bubble in any attempt to demagogue the Republican party as the racist party in the US.


Have you been paying any attention to stuff like the confederate flag train wreck?

Sure. Still doesn't support your claims that Conservatives or the GOP are "The" racist party.

In fact... that's really highly insulting, as there there "isn't" a racist party these days.


That's not what I said. Seriously, there's a difference between "the GOP is the racist party" and "racists are usually on the right end of the left/right scale and vote republican".

Fair enough... but, I've yet to see any evidence of that. If you can back that up, I'd be interested in seeing that.

Had Byrd been a Republican... do you think he'd be as successful in politics with this skeleton out of the closet?

Exactly.


I suspect he would have done just fine. But what does this hypothetical have to do with anything here? It seems like your entire argument against the list is nothing more than "democrats suck too".

No. The point is that while it's inconvient for Byrd to deal with it, he never suffered any consequences of it. And for what its worth, he shouldn't because he did publically renounce it like you said and asked for forgiveness.

However, I'd argue that if he was a Republican, the Democrats would of never let go of this.

That's why you'd never see a KKK/obvious racist Republican... that person would never get elected in the first place.

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 whembly wrote:
However, I'd argue that if he was a Republican, the Democrats would of never let go of this.


You can speculate all you want, but that has nothing to do with the current issue.

That's why you'd never see a KKK/obvious racist Republican... that person would never get elected in the first place.


The whole point of this list is that these are supposedly unknown KKK members, people who hid their KKK affiliation and want to keep it hidden. That's why anyone is bothering to talk about it as a shocking revelation instead of just pointing to the politician's website where they proudly say "I'm a KKK member".

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 whembly wrote:

Fair enough... but, I've yet to see any evidence of that. If you can back that up, I'd be interested in seeing that.

It's not really an evidence thing (I'm not sure who you would study that), but a liberalism vs conservatism (or, reactionaries in this case). Racism is reactionary, R's attract conservatives and reactionaries, therefore racists are more likely to be republican. Just like how socialists are more likely to be democrats. I'll going to see if there is any semi-competent study out there though.


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Well, I found one thing that's not just an opinion piece. The study is done by "NORC" (never heard of them, so no idea on any bias to look at), but it's kind of interesting. Also sort of depressing at times (seriously, that many people opposed to interracial marriage!). It looks like there's a general trend downward in both parties, and the R's have more, although it's not more than 10% or so most of them time. Although how precisely that indicates racism is unsure.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/05/01/new-data-proves-white-republicans-are-more-racist-than-white-democrats-images/

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 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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 whembly wrote:
However, I'd argue that if he was a Republican, the Democrats would of never let go of this.
Right, like the Republican Party hasn't let go of anything that Obama and Hilary have (and most often have not) done?

That's why you'd never see a KKK/obvious racist Republican... that person would never get elected in the first place.
I know, it's so unfair that Republicans can't be openly racist and get voted into office.

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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
 whembly wrote:
However, I'd argue that if he was a Republican, the Democrats would of never let go of this.
Right, like the Republican Party hasn't let go of anything that Obama and Hilary have (and most often have not) done?

Right. That's the state of our politics. Agree?

That's why you'd never see a KKK/obvious racist Republican... that person would never get elected in the first place.
I know, it's so unfair that Republicans can't be openly racist and get voted into office.

Seriously?

All of that is fething hogwash. Dickish? You bet. But actually evidence that they're truly racist? Yeah, not seeing it.

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 whembly wrote:

All of that is fething hogwash. Dickish? You bet. But actually evidence that they're truly racist? Yeah, not seeing it.


And that is why racist politicians get elected into office.

Because unless you pull a clan-mask out of their back pocket people will just go on believing that people who voted for that uppity boy are just overly sensitive about these totally non-racially charged comments.
   
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 d-usa wrote:
 whembly wrote:

All of that is fething hogwash. Dickish? You bet. But actually evidence that they're truly racist? Yeah, not seeing it.


And that is why racist politicians get elected into office.

Because unless you pull a clan-mask out of their back pocket people will just go on believing that people who voted for that uppity boy are just overly sensitive about these totally non-racially charged comments.

Uppity is a racist term?

Jesus christ on a pogo stick.

No, that amounted to the fact that ANY opposition to Obama is racist.


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Uppity 'can' be a racist term, depending on the context of the word including who says it and who it is being used to describe.

If opposing Obama would be enough to be called a racist you would end up with people calling you the grand-wizard by now, and that's clearly not the case.
   
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Anon are saying that they have not released any list yet

https://twitter.com/Operation_KKK/status/661272341318471680

 
   
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 whembly wrote:
Right. That's the state of our politics. Agree?
But you claimed that the Democrats never let go of anything and it's unfair against Republicans, so now you're acknowledging that the Republicans do it as well?
Seriously?

All of that is fething hogwash. Dickish? You bet. But actually evidence that they're truly racist? Yeah, not seeing it.
It must be nice to be as fething clueless to the real world as you are.

I give up.

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 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Republicans, so now you're acknowledging that the Republicans do it as well?
Seriously?

All of that is fething hogwash. Dickish? You bet. But actually evidence that they're truly racist? Yeah, not seeing it.
It must be nice to be as fething clueless to the real world as you are.

I give up.

Good... give up that line of attack because it's never going to be what you want it to be.

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 whembly wrote:
[Good... give up that line of attack because it's never going to be what you want it to be.
Line of attack? No, it's going to be the usual thing where you say something ridiculous, people call you out on it, you double-down on it without actually giving anything of substance, people get exasperated, and then you move on to another Hilary Clinton scandal story from your preferred right-wing echo chamber "news" source.



You know, how this thread has worked for the last 180 fething pages.

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"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
 
   
 
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