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2016/05/03 18:06:32
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
I dunno, I'm kinda impressed for him for doing that. There were chunks there of times where I was thinking, "good on you." Admittedly, he did head into my personal definition of "crazy town" a few times as well, often enough that, if I were American, I wouldn't vote for him.
At least he came across as, "the world won't be screwed if he's elected" to me.
2016/05/03 18:41:14
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
Trump accuses Cruz's father of helping JFK's assassin
.... err...
.. nope.
I got nothing.
In al fairness, the headline is definitely taking liberties.
“His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being — you know, shot. I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous,” Trump said Tuesday during a phone interview with Fox News. “What is this, right prior to his being shot, and nobody even brings it up. They don't even talk about that. That was reported, and nobody talks about it.”
“I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?” Trump continued. “It’s horrible.”
Doesn't really sound like an accusation. More like innuendo.
Apparently the National Enquirer has published a photo of Rafael B. Cruz with Oswald handing out leaflets for the Fair Play for Cuba Committee taken outside the International Trade Mart in New Orleans on Aug.16, 1963. Now, Cruz has admitted that he supported Castro, but during the revolutionary period circa 1959, but there seems to be some controversy about when that support ended. Even if the elder Cruz is in the picture, it doesn't mean he had anything to do with the JFK assassination. It is absurd to think all pro-Cuba or pro-Communist leaning activists were involved in a plot to murder the president.
To me, it does open up the broader picture of strange political and philosophical alliances over the years, and how they tie in to our current leaders. JFK's father in bootlegging or George Bush's grandfather's ties to Nazi financiers, for example.
-James
2016/05/03 18:42:00
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
@Compel: (assuming you were responding to the video of Cruz with Trump supporters). It's not that there's nothing to admire in someone who goes into the Lion's Den...it's just that it does you no good to argue publically with people who just say stuff like "Nana-Nana-Nana. I can't hear what you're saying. You're stupid. Trump, please."
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2016/05/03 18:45:02
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
jasper76 wrote: @Compel: (assuming you were responding to the video of Cruz with Trump supporters). It's not that there's nothing to admire in someone who goes into the Lion's Den...it's just that it does you no good to argue publically with people who just say stuff like "Nana-Nana-Nana. I can't hear what you're saying. You're stupid. Trump, please."
Hypothetically, one wouldn't do it to change the Trump supporters minds, one would do it for the cameras / people on the internet, especially who might not be planning on voting. EG, "you don't vote in the primary, you're letting that guy decide the Republican nominee.
2016/05/03 18:57:16
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
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@Compel: However, if the US has an abundance of anything, it's those guys. And I don't think Cruz came off well in the interchange. He showed that his presence is not commanding, and that he doesn't have enough respect amongst these people for them to even bother treating him in a civil manner.
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2016/05/03 19:01:43
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
The former construction company owner, mountaineer and competitive triathlete, governed New Mexico for two terms as a Republican. One of the few unqualified gubernatorial success stories for the Republican Party over the last couple of decades, his entry into politics was a low-key affair, driven mainly by a core of loyal backers. The then politically-inexperienced Johnson was hardly given a chance in the run up to the New Mexico gubernatorial race of 1994, especially after being rebuffed by state Republican leaders who ‘suggested’ that he should instead seek a seat in the State Legislature first.
However, his convictions and doggedness saw him scrapping past his Republican challenger in the primary, Richard P. Cheney, by a mere 1%, securing 34% of the ballots. The win was all the more impressive considering his campaign was funded almost entirely from his own $500,000 contribution. In the general election, with the Republican Party machinery firmly behind him, Johnson soundly, although very surprisingly, defeated the incumbent Governor, Democrat Bruce King, by an impressive 10 points. He repeated the feat four years later by beating Democrat Albert Chavez by another comprehensive ten-point margin to win reelection – impressive feats in a state with an over 40% Latino population.
His time in office was typified by aggressive cost cutting measures aimed at eliminating the state’s budget deficit and spending growth. Johnson, armed with the lessons learned building his construction firm, was known to be a decisive, yet collaborative operator who is most often remembered as the Governor who never increased taxes during his tenure.
In 2012, Johnson joined the Libertarian Party after severing his ties with the GOP.
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2016/05/03 19:03:15
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
The former construction company owner, mountaineer and competitive triathlete, governed New Mexico for two terms as a Republican. One of the few unqualified gubernatorial success stories for the Republican Party over the last couple of decades, his entry into politics was a low-key affair, driven mainly by a core of loyal backers. The then politically-inexperienced Johnson was hardly given a chance in the run up to the New Mexico gubernatorial race of 1994, especially after being rebuffed by state Republican leaders who ‘suggested’ that he should instead seek a seat in the State Legislature first.
However, his convictions and doggedness saw him scrapping past his Republican challenger in the primary, Richard P. Cheney, by a mere 1%, securing 34% of the ballots. The win was all the more impressive considering his campaign was funded almost entirely from his own $500,000 contribution. In the general election, with the Republican Party machinery firmly behind him, Johnson soundly, although very surprisingly, defeated the incumbent Governor, Democrat Bruce King, by an impressive 10 points. He repeated the feat four years later by beating Democrat Albert Chavez by another comprehensive ten-point margin to win reelection – impressive feats in a state with an over 40% Latino population.
His time in office was typified by aggressive cost cutting measures aimed at eliminating the state’s budget deficit and spending growth. Johnson, armed with the lessons learned building his construction firm, was known to be a decisive, yet collaborative operator who is most often remembered as the Governor who never increased taxes during his tenure.
In 2012, Johnson joined the Libertarian Party after severing his ties with the GOP.
My likely vote.
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2016/05/03 19:12:51
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
A man who controls a large building company, an industry sector known for employment of casual Mexican labourers, does unexpectedly well in a state that borders Mexico and has a large Mexican immigrant population.
Kilkrazy wrote: A man who controls a large building company, an industry sector known for employment of casual Mexican labourers, does unexpectedly well in a state that borders Mexico and has a large Mexican immigrant population.
Hum.
It reminds me of the days when we had the rotten boroughs and 40 MPs being elected by three men and a goat!
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2016/05/03 20:09:19
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
Kilkrazy wrote: A man who controls a large building company, an industry sector known for employment of casual Mexican labourers, does unexpectedly well in a state that borders Mexico and has a large Mexican immigrant population.
Hum.
It reminds me of the days when we had the rotten boroughs and 40 MPs being elected by three men and a goat!
...and a small dog, named Colin.
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2016/05/03 20:27:52
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
kronk wrote: "It is absurd to think all pro-Cuba or pro-Communist leaning activists were involved in a plot to murder the president. "
That's what pro-communist lizard people WANT you to think!
Indeed. The other day Heidi Cruz held a small press gathering where she denied that her husband was the Zodiac Killer, and I remember thinking, that's exactly what the wife of the Zodiac Killer would say. What did she know, and when did she know it?
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2016/05/03 20:31:25
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
Other than the crushing him in the primaries part, Trump seems to be exactly what Cruz would have ordered crazed geneticists to create to make Cruz look like less of a lunatic.
Again, if it wasn't Trump, you could see the appeal of a more likable person running a similar campaign. Incredibly dubious attack ads have become the norm, but say something compaable, out loud, as a candidate and you're a bully...
2016/05/03 21:32:30
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
kronk wrote: "It is absurd to think all pro-Cuba or pro-Communist leaning activists were involved in a plot to murder the president. "
That's what pro-communist lizard people WANT you to think!
Indeed. The other day Heidi Cruz held a small press gathering where she denied that her husband was the Zodiac Killer, and I remember thinking, that's exactly what the wife of the Zodiac Killer would say. What did she know, and when did she know it?
The former construction company owner, mountaineer and competitive triathlete, governed New Mexico for two terms as a Republican. One of the few unqualified gubernatorial success stories for the Republican Party over the last couple of decades, his entry into politics was a low-key affair, driven mainly by a core of loyal backers. The then politically-inexperienced Johnson was hardly given a chance in the run up to the New Mexico gubernatorial race of 1994, especially after being rebuffed by state Republican leaders who ‘suggested’ that he should instead seek a seat in the State Legislature first.
However, his convictions and doggedness saw him scrapping past his Republican challenger in the primary, Richard P. Cheney, by a mere 1%, securing 34% of the ballots. The win was all the more impressive considering his campaign was funded almost entirely from his own $500,000 contribution. In the general election, with the Republican Party machinery firmly behind him, Johnson soundly, although very surprisingly, defeated the incumbent Governor, Democrat Bruce King, by an impressive 10 points. He repeated the feat four years later by beating Democrat Albert Chavez by another comprehensive ten-point margin to win reelection – impressive feats in a state with an over 40% Latino population.
His time in office was typified by aggressive cost cutting measures aimed at eliminating the state’s budget deficit and spending growth. Johnson, armed with the lessons learned building his construction firm, was known to be a decisive, yet collaborative operator who is most often remembered as the Governor who never increased taxes during his tenure.
In 2012, Johnson joined the Libertarian Party after severing his ties with the GOP.
The #NeverTrump ought to vote for him.
IMO the only way he'd EVER win a Presidential election (Clinton vs Trump vs Johnson) is if neither candidates get to 270 EV. Then, the current House of Representative picks Johnson...
Imagine... just imagine.
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2016/05/03 21:37:01
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
d-usa wrote: A blanket ban on heretics in the galaxy, Space Marine Chaplains spreading the best words, ABBADON will pay for the cost of defending the gate!
He also guarantees there's no problem with the size of his codpiece. He guarantees it.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
2016/05/03 22:15:16
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
The former construction company owner, mountaineer and competitive triathlete, governed New Mexico for two terms as a Republican. One of the few unqualified gubernatorial success stories for the Republican Party over the last couple of decades, his entry into politics was a low-key affair, driven mainly by a core of loyal backers. The then politically-inexperienced Johnson was hardly given a chance in the run up to the New Mexico gubernatorial race of 1994, especially after being rebuffed by state Republican leaders who ‘suggested’ that he should instead seek a seat in the State Legislature first.
However, his convictions and doggedness saw him scrapping past his Republican challenger in the primary, Richard P. Cheney, by a mere 1%, securing 34% of the ballots. The win was all the more impressive considering his campaign was funded almost entirely from his own $500,000 contribution. In the general election, with the Republican Party machinery firmly behind him, Johnson soundly, although very surprisingly, defeated the incumbent Governor, Democrat Bruce King, by an impressive 10 points. He repeated the feat four years later by beating Democrat Albert Chavez by another comprehensive ten-point margin to win reelection – impressive feats in a state with an over 40% Latino population.
His time in office was typified by aggressive cost cutting measures aimed at eliminating the state’s budget deficit and spending growth. Johnson, armed with the lessons learned building his construction firm, was known to be a decisive, yet collaborative operator who is most often remembered as the Governor who never increased taxes during his tenure.
In 2012, Johnson joined the Libertarian Party after severing his ties with the GOP.
My wife has been a fan of his for a while now
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Next thing he'll have the head of a secret lodge endorse him...
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2016/05/03 22:27:13
Subject: The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
But this is perhaps the most measured and polite description that one could give of how operator after operator took turns dumping magazines' worth of ammunition into bin Laden's body, two confidential sources within the community have told us. When all was said and done, UBL had over a hundred bullets in him, by the most conservative estimate.
But this is perhaps the most measured and polite description that one could give of how operator after operator took turns dumping magazines' worth of ammunition into bin Laden's body, two confidential sources within the community have told us. When all was said and done, UBL had over a hundred bullets in him, by the most conservative estimate.
If true, I could sympathize with the action. Although it would have been far better to be able to provide photographic proof of his death.
IMO there is no reason to release the pictures of OBL's corpse. There are two classes of people:
A.) The average person, who will hear that Navy Seals successfully executed a mission to apprehend or kill OBL, a wholly valid military target, operating under a legal AUMF from Congress. They will presume that it's true.
B.) People who will not believe he is dead no matter what manner of proof is provided.
The people in group A don't need a picture, and the people in group B won't accept a picture. So why cheapen ourselves?
It's not about enflaming... anyone. It's about having the same respect for the dead we'd like for ourselves. It was wrong to do it with Saddam Hussein's sons, and it was right not to do it with OBL.
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2016/05/03 23:57:15
Subject: Re:The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition
It's not about enflaming... anyone. It's about having the same respect for the dead we'd like for ourselves. It was wrong to do it with Saddam Hussein's sons, and it was right not to do it with OBL.
This right here... I think that it's a good thing we're beyond the days of William Wallace and quartering/stringing up corpses as a "warning" to all who can see of how we deal with the law.
And publishing pictures of OBL would essentially be posting the head on a pike at the gates.
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