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Anyone seeing any of the new Necron Formations as being good to bring in to their armies?

Deathbringer Flight? For Tau - bringing some str 10 AP 1 lance / anti-FMC to the table?

It's too early to say.

Decursion gives you a decent core.
The formations using Wraiths or Destroyers seem to be the winners if you ask me.

I might bring Deathbringer Flight into my Tyranids, Str 10 AP1 Lance...I've sorely missed the AP1 on my Zoanthropes for popping Tanks.

I'm digging the Annhilation Nexus. Doomsday Ark looks like a really solid choice and ABs are still good.

But how good are AB's compared to an Obelisk and their Spheres?

Kangodo wrote:
But how good are AB's compared to an Obelisk and their Spheres?

That probably depends largely on how people/TOs/FAQs end up ruling the firing arcs of the Sphere's. Although it is still a bargain for its durability.

 wuestenfux wrote:
The formations using Wraiths or Destroyers seem to be the winners if you ask me.

That they are, and the Triarch one looks interesting, too (though I'm not too sure how well it'll work in practice).
I'd love for all three of them to work well in conjunction with each other, Destroyers handling MEQ, Praetorians handling TEQ, Wraiths mopping up everything else on legs, while the Stalker and Scarabs are on anti-AV duty. The only thing to watch out for would be flyers, but that's what Immortals in Night Scythes are for.
...
We'll see, anyway.

Kangodo wrote:
But how good are AB's compared to an Obelisk and their Spheres?

Depends. Can the opponent deal with Superheavy AV14? If not, the Obelisk is leaps and bounds better. Any time it gets to fire off 2 or more of it's spheres, it's doing more firepower than 2 Barges. It's also faster and brings light-ish FMC/Flyer/Skimmer defense.

For roughly the cost of 2 Barges and change, it's much tougher and slightly more killy depending on how much you can get in range. I think it's a good buy, but that'll be up in the air for a while.

Kangodo wrote:
But how good are AB's compared to an Obelisk and their Spheres?

I feel that the Obelisk is leaps and bounds better than the abarges.

It's faster, more durable, and can put out more firepower. I had my first game, and I had no trouble firing 3 spheres most of the time.

It's bonus is great in a Decurion too. You know what your opponent is bringing- if they are droppoding or something, just deep strike it automatically turn 2. If it's going to rampage through the enemies army, put it on the table. 12' movement+24 Tesla puts a good deal in range turn 1.

I'm just here for the fornicating necrons. Maybe I misread. Huh.

Annihilation Nexus is pretty solid. Canoptek Harvest is ridiculous. The Reclamation Legion is good IMO, Destroyer Cult is devastating, Judicator Battalion is really good, Royal court is okay. Living Tomb is just expensive as all hell, but not bad by any means.

Honestly, I think all of them are good, and extremely fluffy and fun to play.

I just wish the other ones (Star God, Flayed Ones, Deathmarks) had some sort of fluffy rule to go along with their "formations"

 skoffs wrote:
I just wish the other ones (Star God, Flayed Ones, Deathmarks) had some sort of fluffy rule to go along with their "formations"

What about killing d6 of your own guyz every turn?

 skoffs wrote:
I just wish the other ones (Star God, Flayed Ones, Deathmarks) had some sort of fluffy rule to go along with their "formations"

To be fair, they're not Formations that you can take solo.

Victory wrote:I'm just here for the fornicating necrons. Maybe I misread. Huh.

koooaei wrote:

 skoffs wrote:
I just wish the other ones (Star God, Flayed Ones, Deathmarks) had some sort of fluffy rule to go along with their "formations"

What about killing d6 of your own guyz every turn?

Oh stop it you two! I actually have to get through this day without my jaw being locked in a permanent grin.

Out of interest, everyone seems to be saying flayed ones got better. How so? I understand they got a better weapon setup? as in 2x whatever they had before? But don't they still just DS, as an assault unit?

Solar Shock wrote:

Victory wrote:I'm just here for the fornicating necrons. Maybe I misread. Huh.

koooaei wrote:

 skoffs wrote:
I just wish the other ones (Star God, Flayed Ones, Deathmarks) had some sort of fluffy rule to go along with their "formations"

What about killing d6 of your own guyz every turn?

Oh stop it you two! I actually have to get through this day without my jaw being locked in a permanent grin.

Out of interest, everyone seems to be saying flayed ones got better. How so? I understand they got a better weapon setup? as in 2x whatever they had before? But don't they still just DS, as an assault unit?

Flayed ones now have 4 attacks base, AP5, Shred. That's a massive improvement over 3 base, no AP, no special rules.

Additionally, the way RP works now means that more of them get to fight at I2 instead of being on the ground, dead.

They have 5 attacks on the charge with shred.

It seems like there is a synergy between the formations if you get it right. Destroyer Cult with the Judicator Battalion, for instance, could be really nasty. The Destroyers hang around the Stalker(s) and get rerollable 2+ to hit as well as rerollable wound/pen. That's pretty sweet.

More attacks and Shred, so they deal almost double the amount of Wounds to T4.
They went from 1 wound to over 1.8 wound per Flayed One, so you need 3 to kill a Terminator.

A quick question; can i take the formation from the exterminatus book that gave reroll of 1 at sv and thesev new detachment(same units)?

 Victory wrote:
I'm just here for the fornicating necrons. Maybe I misread. Huh.

Exalted.

Whoa, I just saw something.
(Okay, this might have been covered in other threads, but I'm not about to dig through a bajillion replies to try to find it. Apologies if it's already been cleared up)

So I found this image of the Decurion formations, all maxed out, in poster form that came with the collectors edition.
"Wow," thinks I, "That's pretty cool."
Then I notice at the bottom: Canoptek harvest.
"... is it my imagination, or does that formation have Three Spyders in it."
I could have sworn there was a big hubbub about that formation when it came out (being that because the codex says "Spyder" you can only take one).
... but if this is any indication, it would seem that maybe there could be a FAQ soon incoming (HA!) that might clarify that.

Anyway, here's the image in question, if anyone's interested-
Really wish there was a version of it that showed the whole thing in better detail... anyone able to oblige us?

Kholzerino wrote:
They have 5 attacks on the charge with shred.

It seems like there is a synergy between the formations if you get it right. Destroyer Cult with the Judicator Battalion, for instance, could be really nasty. The Destroyers hang around the Stalker(s) and get rerollable 2+ to hit as well as rerollable wound/pen. That's pretty sweet.

That's not how the Judicator Battalion perk works. Open your book and look it up

 Vhalyar wrote:

Kholzerino wrote:
They have 5 attacks on the charge with shred.

It seems like there is a synergy between the formations if you get it right. Destroyer Cult with the Judicator Battalion, for instance, could be really nasty. The Destroyers hang around the Stalker(s) and get rerollable 2+ to hit as well as rerollable wound/pen. That's pretty sweet.

That's not how the Judicator Battalion perk works. Open your book and look it up

That's how it works if you look at the Destroyer cult bonus' and the +1 BS for the Stalker.

Go ahead, open up your book and look it up.

 skoffs wrote:
Whoa, I just saw something.
(Okay, this might have been covered in other threads, but I'm not about to dig through a bajillion replies to try to find it. Apologies if it's already been cleared up)

So I found this image of the Decurion formations, all maxed out, in poster form that came with the collectors edition.
"Wow," thinks I, "That's pretty cool."
Then I notice at the bottom: Canoptek harvest.
"... is it my imagination, or does that formation have Three Spyders in it."
I could have sworn there was a big hubbub about that formation when it came out (being that because the codex says "Spyder" you can only take one).
... but if this is any indication, it would seem that maybe there could be a FAQ soon incoming (HA!) that might clarify that.

Anyway, here's the image in question, if anyone's interested-

Spoiler:

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SpnPt7-Y6p4/VM0EbOro0nI/AAAAAAAA

A1w/xkivwX9ztWI/s1600/Decurion%2BPoster.jpg[/img]

Really wish there was a version of it that showed the whole thing in better detail... anyone able to oblige us?

Dont think i would accept that as validation since there is already an image in the codex for the formation showing only one spyder. Also, the poster doesnt display the minimum number of scarabs with the formation either, which would be an argument against that poster showing full or even partial formation.

 Sasori wrote:

 Vhalyar wrote:

Kholzerino wrote:
They have 5 attacks on the charge with shred.

It seems like there is a synergy between the formations if you get it right. Destroyer Cult with the Judicator Battalion, for instance, could be really nasty. The Destroyers hang around the Stalker(s) and get rerollable 2+ to hit as well as rerollable wound/pen. That's pretty sweet.

That's not how the Judicator Battalion perk works. Open your book and look it up

That's how it works if you look at the Destroyer cult bonus' and the +1 BS for the Stalker.

Go ahead, open up your book and look it up.

Zing! Down in flames I go

xpress907 wrote:

 skoffs wrote:
Whoa, I just saw something.
(Okay, this might have been covered in other threads, but I'm not about to dig through a bajillion replies to try to find it. Apologies if it's already been cleared up)

So I found this image of the Decurion formations, all maxed out, in poster form that came with the collectors edition.
"Wow," thinks I, "That's pretty cool."
Then I notice at the bottom: Canoptek harvest.
"... is it my imagination, or does that formation have Three Spyders in it."
I could have sworn there was a big hubbub about that formation when it came out (being that because the codex says "Spyder" you can only take one).
... but if this is any indication, it would seem that maybe there could be a FAQ soon incoming (HA!) that might clarify that.

Anyway, here's the image in question, if anyone's interested-

Spoiler:

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SpnPt7-Y6p4/VM0EbOro0nI/AAAAAAAA

A1w/xkivwX9ztWI/s1600/Decurion%2BPoster.jpg[/img]

Really wish there was a version of it that showed the whole thing in better detail... anyone able to oblige us?

Dont think i would accept that as validation since there is already an image in the codex for the formation showing only one spyder. Also, the poster doesnt display the minimum number of scarabs with the formation either, which would be an argument against that poster showing full or even partial formation.

Hm. The Convlave of The Burning One image, in its datasheet entry, has a picture of the transcendent C'Tan. But the formation says "one C'Tan Shard". I'm doubting any TO will allow it, but I feel like this is RAI being odds with RA(badly)W. The units aren't called C'Tan Shards in the codex... So...Because that formation could be fun in any army with the right upgrades.

So that formation with wraiths and spyder. YOu can only bring 1 unit of each,right? Can you bring more than 1 of this formation?, or is it strictly 1?

No limitation on the amount of Formations.

Kholzerino wrote:

xpress907 wrote:

 skoffs wrote:
Whoa, I just saw something.
(Okay, this might have been covered in other threads, but I'm not about to dig through a bajillion replies to try to find it. Apologies if it's already been cleared up)

So I found this image of the Decurion formations, all maxed out, in poster form that came with the collectors edition.
"Wow," thinks I, "That's pretty cool."
Then I notice at the bottom: Canoptek harvest.
"... is it my imagination, or does that formation have Three Spyders in it."
I could have sworn there was a big hubbub about that formation when it came out (being that because the codex says "Spyder" you can only take one).
... but if this is any indication, it would seem that maybe there could be a FAQ soon incoming (HA!) that might clarify that.

Anyway, here's the image in question, if anyone's interested-

Spoiler:

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SpnPt7-Y6p4/VM0EbOro0nI/AAAAAAAA

A1w/xkivwX9ztWI/s1600/Decurion%2BPoster.jpg[/img]

Really wish there was a version of it that showed the whole thing in better detail... anyone able to oblige us?

Dont think i would accept that as validation since there is already an image in the codex for the formation showing only one spyder. Also, the poster doesnt display the minimum number of scarabs with the formation either, which would be an argument against that poster showing full or even partial formation.

Hm. The Convlave of The Burning One image, in its datasheet entry, has a picture of the transcendent C'Tan. But the formation says "one C'Tan Shard". I'm doubting any TO will allow it, but I feel like this is RAI being odds with RA(badly)W. The units aren't called C'Tan Shards in the codex... So...Because that formation could be fun in any army with the right upgrades.

I'm honestly expecting a FAQ for Exterminatus to line it up with the new codex fairly soon. Starting with what "C'Tan Shard" means and including things like "Can you replace the Overlord in Zarathusa's Phalanx with a CCB".

Kangodo wrote:
No limitation on the amount of Formations.

In Decursion there is a limitation for the number of formations.
But it's high enough so that you won't reach it in normal games.