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2015/02/04 06:42:36
Subject: Again? What is going on in SE Asia with their aircraft?
Timothy B. Lee wrote:TransAsia flight GE 235 has crashed in Taiwan
1. TransAsia Airways flight GE 235 crashed in Taipei around 10:53am local time Wednesday.
2. There were 53 passengers and 5 crew members on board the aircraft, according to Taiwanese authorities.
3. The authorities have confirmed nine deaths, according to the Guardian. There are 18 survivors with injuries and 31 people have not been accounted for.
The crash was caught on video. Someone driving near the scene of the crash (reportedly Twitter user @Missxoxo168) captured video of the plane with a dashboard camera.
There's another dashboard video of the crash here.
The video shows a van being clipped by the airplane's wing as it flew over. Here's what the vehicle looked like afterwards:
The taxi driver and his passenger survived the encounter, according to Focus Taiwan.
Rescue operations are under way
Rescue workers have been working to pull survivors out of the downed plane. The authorities have said there have been 9 confirmed deaths, 18 rescued people with injuries, and 31 people who have not been accounted for, according to the Guardian.
More than 170 people have been deployed for the rescue operations, along with numerous fire engines, ambulances, and jet skis.
Watch live footage of the rescue effort here:
This is the second TransAsia crash in less than a year
Last July, TransAsia flight 222 crashed, killing 48 of the 58 people on board. The plane went down on Penghu Island, which is in the strait between Taiwan and mainland China. That crash occurred as the plane was attempting to land in heavy rain. The exact cause of last year's crash is still being investigated.
2015/02/04 06:53:19
Subject: Again? What is going on in SE Asia with their aircraft?
If you go to Wikipedia and look through their fancy list of aircraft accidents, you'll notice a long trend that Asia and Africa have lots of them.
Poorer maintenance standards, lots of corruption, weaker safety regulations. A whole lot of corner cutting. That picture is just, wow. Once in a lifetime shot that is.
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Looks like they tried to stretch their glide a bit too far (to clear all of the obstacles), stalled, and lost control with way too little altitude to recover. The second video shows them coming in level and nose-high, then suddenly the left wing drops and the plane dives into the water. Normally I'd call that pilot error, but it looks like they were kind of screwed either way: hit the obstacles and probably die, or take the huge risk of ignoring the stall warning and try to clear them. The real question here is how they got into that situation in the first place. Airline planes are supposed to be able to fly just fine on one engine (though possibly at lower altitude, with less fuel efficiency, etc) so losing a single engine shouldn't have been a fatal accident. And losing both simultaneously seems like it would require human error, not just a single mechanical failure.
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2015/02/04 21:34:22
Subject: Again? What is going on in SE Asia with their aircraft?
LordofHats wrote: If you go to Wikipedia and look through their fancy list of aircraft accidents, you'll notice a long trend that Asia and Africa have lots of them.
Poorer maintenance standards, lots of corruption, weaker safety regulations. A whole lot of corner cutting. That picture is just, wow. Once in a lifetime shot that is.
You've no idea how much that is true.
International flights in SE Asian countries are ok generally, and some nations in the region have very high standards. Singapore Airlines being an example of a first rate airline.
Its internal flights in some larger poorer countries that cut the corners.
I know a missionary who worked in Indonesia. His stories of local internal flights on Garuda are most amusing. People cooking on an open tin fire in the aisle....seatbelts, what seatbelts. People bringing on goats.
He didnt like flying Garuda, I can see why the safety record is shocking, but as odds go. I would play them for the experience.
AFAIK local flight loses arent even registered.
I wouldn't think to add Taiwan on the list of dodgy air safety countries though, it seems rather developed. But accidents happen everywhere.
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2015/02/04 21:39:06
Subject: Again? What is going on in SE Asia with their aircraft?
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LordofHats wrote: If you go to Wikipedia and look through their fancy list of aircraft accidents, you'll notice a long trend that Asia and Africa have lots of them.
Poorer maintenance standards, lots of corruption, weaker safety regulations. A whole lot of corner cutting. That picture is just, wow. Once in a lifetime shot that is.
You do have to wonder though, why are we just now hearing about them? Surely the problem must be getting worse?
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LordofHats wrote: If you go to Wikipedia and look through their fancy list of aircraft accidents, you'll notice a long trend that Asia and Africa have lots of them.
Poorer maintenance standards, lots of corruption, weaker safety regulations. A whole lot of corner cutting. That picture is just, wow. Once in a lifetime shot that is.
You do have to wonder though, why are we just now hearing about them? Surely the problem must be getting worse?
Blame CNN.
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2015/02/04 21:46:04
Subject: Re:Again? What is going on in SE Asia with their aircraft?
Having flown regularly on domestic flights in the Philippines, I can't say I've noticed any of the planes being rickety or badly maintained. Although the corruption is very real. Stuck in a long cue for baggage? Slip a member of staff a few hundred pesos and Bob's your uncle, you are suddenly at the front..
That picture, by the way, holy feth
2015/02/04 21:50:28
Subject: Re:Again? What is going on in SE Asia with their aircraft?
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2015/02/04 21:50:28
Subject: Re:Again? What is going on in SE Asia with their aircraft?
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