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Are there any new fluff for the new necron codex that just came out in gamesworkshop?
   
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nothing that stands out to me no

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They have a pretty nifty map

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Can't say I really saw much that was new. There's actually a lot that was taken out.

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There are a few bits and pieces that are new (to me at least) :

eg: Confirmation that Necrons can be corrupted by Chaos - a whole Tomb World in fact.

The map is cool - and extends quite a bit out from the galaxy..............


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 Mr Morden wrote:

eg: Confirmation that Necrons can be corrupted by Chaos - a whole Tomb World in fact.

Would you mind elaborating on the circumstances? It sounds like it could be interesting.
   
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woahhh yeah I'd like to hear about these Chaos Necons.

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If I recall basically Slaanesh possesses a locked up Tomb World and when they emerge they're followers of him.

   
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But I assume there will have to be something new, even if it's just one sentence. Also IIRC, according to another thread just a few days back, the new Necron dex stated the Undying (some necron thingy from Damnos) was slain due to efforts from Cato Sicarius (or Deathwatch operatives). I mean that's an advancement to an old 5E fluff...


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 Shadowclaimer wrote:
If I recall basically Slaanesh possesses a locked up Tomb World and when they emerge they're followers of him.

Honestly of all Gods of Chaos, Slaanesh is the last I'd expect to corrupt the Necrons... well, I get necrop-- is also his/her/its thing...

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 lcmiracle wrote:

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 Shadowclaimer wrote:
If I recall basically Slaanesh possesses a locked up Tomb World and when they emerge they're followers of him.

Honestly of all Gods of Chaos, Slaanesh is the last I'd expect to corrupt the Necrons... well, I get necrop-- is also his/her/its thing...


I'm only going by the Shadowclaimer's wording so I could be wrong, but Shadowclaimer said "possess", which is different from "convincing/mindraping into servitude".

All daemons are able to possess machines (Slaaneshi daemons will possess a decimator or a soul devourer shell quite readily if it gives them a chance to frolick in the material realm), and I don't see why necrons would be out of the question in that regard. Yet it's nice to get confirmation that such a thing is possible.

If Slaanesh actually managed to get them to serve Slaanesh out of "free will" (or some chaotic variant thereof likely involving copious amounts of brainwashing or mindrape) or whatever instead of daemons inhabiting their metallic shells, that'd be surprising, IMHO.

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TiamatRoar wrote:
 lcmiracle wrote:

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 Shadowclaimer wrote:
If I recall basically Slaanesh possesses a locked up Tomb World and when they emerge they're followers of him.

Honestly of all Gods of Chaos, Slaanesh is the last I'd expect to corrupt the Necrons... well, I get necrop-- is also his/her/its thing...


I'm only going by the Shadowclaimer's wording so I could be wrong, but Shadowclaimer said "possess", which is different from "convincing/mindraping into servitude".

All daemons are able to possess machines (Slaaneshi daemons will possess a decimator or a soul devourer shell quite readily if it gives them a chance to frolick in the material realm), and I don't see why necrons would be out of the question in that regard. Yet it's nice to get confirmation that such a thing is possible.

If Slaanesh actually managed to get them to serve Slaanesh out of "free will" (or some chaotic variant thereof likely involving copious amounts of brainwashing or mindrape) or whatever instead of daemons inhabiting their metallic shells, that'd be surprising, IMHO.


Well if you consider the fact that a Necron Lord is also capable of independent thought and hedonism, it doesn't necessarily have to be related to the flesh. Slaanesh welcomes hedonism in all its forms, even what's possible to feel by a soulless robot man.

I'm hunting for the source, I can't seem to remember where I kept reading about it at.

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 Shadowclaimer wrote:
TiamatRoar wrote:
 lcmiracle wrote:

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 Shadowclaimer wrote:
If I recall basically Slaanesh possesses a locked up Tomb World and when they emerge they're followers of him.

Honestly of all Gods of Chaos, Slaanesh is the last I'd expect to corrupt the Necrons... well, I get necrop-- is also his/her/its thing...


I'm only going by the Shadowclaimer's wording so I could be wrong, but Shadowclaimer said "possess", which is different from "convincing/mindraping into servitude".

All daemons are able to possess machines (Slaaneshi daemons will possess a decimator or a soul devourer shell quite readily if it gives them a chance to frolick in the material realm), and I don't see why necrons would be out of the question in that regard. Yet it's nice to get confirmation that such a thing is possible.

If Slaanesh actually managed to get them to serve Slaanesh out of "free will" (or some chaotic variant thereof likely involving copious amounts of brainwashing or mindrape) or whatever instead of daemons inhabiting their metallic shells, that'd be surprising, IMHO.


Well if you consider the fact that a Necron Lord is also capable of independent thought and hedonism, it doesn't necessarily have to be related to the flesh. Slaanesh welcomes hedonism in all its forms, even what's possible to feel by a soulless robot man.

I'm hunting for the source, I can't seem to remember where I kept reading about it at.


Normally when I think of the term "corrupt" in Wh40k as it relates to Chaos, I envision the chaos god(s) twisting that individual's very soul. It's just hard for me to envision twisting the soul of a soulless robot. Yea, for certain machines, sometimes the fluff describes it as corrupting the machine spirit instead if applicable, but I was under the impression that necrons being "soulless" meant they didn't have machine spirits to corrupt, either.

But hey, I could be wrong especially considering that's my own personal interpretation of it. If that's what actually happened in this case, then that's what actually happened.

If that's what actually happened, of course.

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No Slaaneshi Necrons as far as I can see.
There's a world called Cocholus which is described as a daemon infested tomb world.
There's also Vorketh which was infected with the taint of Chaos by the Daemon Prince Shukketh Voidmaw. Vorketh's regent awakens to find his crypts transformed and his legions already locked in battle.
   
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I'm going to thumb through my codex, I could be completely wrong it may have been something in a comment somewhere I read. I can't find my source nor anything on Google.

I apologize.

Edit: Find function found nothing about Chaos sans:

919.M41 THE DAEMON’S TOMB
The Daemon Prince Shukketh Voidmaw infects the tomb world of Vorketh with the taint of
Chaos. Vorketh’s regent awakens to find his crypts transformed, and his legions already
locked in battle.


So not confirmed Slaanesh, but a Daemon Prince did infect the tomb world with the taint of Chaos and the Necrons were transformed.

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Necrons being corrupted by Chaos makes me facepalm when we consider their warp antithesis days.


   
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 Shadowclaimer wrote:
I'm going to thumb through my codex, I could be completely wrong it may have been something in a comment somewhere I read. I can't find my source nor anything on Google.

I apologize.

Edit: Find function found nothing about Chaos sans:

919.M41 THE DAEMON’S TOMB
The Daemon Prince Shukketh Voidmaw infects the tomb world of Vorketh with the taint of
Chaos. Vorketh’s regent awakens to find his crypts transformed, and his legions already
locked in battle.


So not confirmed Slaanesh, but a Daemon Prince did infect the tomb world with the taint of Chaos and the Necrons were transformed.


Yep sorry been away - thats the one

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 Medium of Death wrote:
Necrons being corrupted by Chaos makes me facepalm when we consider their warp antithesis days.



Perhaps because the Necrons have "will" they require corruption, rather than simply bieng tainted like a stone or human vehicle? This would allow Chaos to taint the tomb itself and the various constructs within it, but to have a tougher time with the actual Necrons themselves. Who knows, sadly it's not expanded upon very much (this was one of the best parts of the last Tyranid book by the way; proper Tyranid vs Daemon fluff).

Regardless, Chaos tainting a tomb is a definite means to disrupting the Necrons' longevity. It's hard to be re-built if your stasis chambers have been converted into spiky flaming flesh chambers.
   
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i don't understand how Necrons work exactly.They supposedly don't have souls, yet their bodies contain personalities and minds and everything but no AI or digital storage or something?

   
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It does not say the necrons were corrupted. Just that their world was. The Daemon Prince could have even been on the surface doing whatever he pleased while they slept underneath, or may have even been woken up by chaos trying to dig them up to get at their tech. When the necron leader awoke, his warriors were already there fighting them off. That's really old hate, and they were transferred into metal bodies and had their souls stripped so that they would be better in the fight against chaos.
   
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 Shadowclaimer wrote:

919.M41 THE DAEMON’S TOMB
The Daemon Prince Shukketh Voidmaw infects the tomb world of Vorketh with the taint of
Chaos. Vorketh’s regent awakens to find his crypts transformed, and his legions already
locked in battle.


So, just to throw this out there it does say that the crypts are tainted not that the Necrons are as it does say they are battling daemons. Also slightly amusing since Necrons can eradicate daemonic incursions with Null generators at the heart of tomb worlds.

In regards to notable fluff this is what I found to be rather interesting thus far.

-Necrons went to sleep because there reasoning was that even the mightiest armies could fall and having conquered most of the galaxy they did not want to see what would happen next whether it be the crumbling of their empire or gathering of enemy back lash (I kid you not that is what it says).
-In the map section it states that if every Necron awoken they would be as numerous as the imperium of man itself (Literal quadrillions of soldiers that their basic weapons can rip through the toughest armor in the galaxy like it was wet toilet paper...ouch)
-Necrons are described as being in massive stasis crypts on each world that is apparently very difficult to penetrate before awakening.
-Necrons shut down a whole warp storm above the world of Gythos using Null fields...then promptly harvest the human populous.
-A shard of the void dragon escapes (thus confirming that the void dragon is indeed a C'tan) and lays waste to multiple worlds before getting put back in his cage.
-Kroot try to eat some necrons and get killed by plague nanoscarabs.
-Trazyn the infinite attempts to have a live museum petting zoo of tyranids at his tomb world, this does not go over so well though and he has to purge them. :/
-Szeras finds a Culexus assassin, being so fascinated with one he wants more, sending a message throughout the imperium and the high lords of Terra order a Execution force of them after the cryptek (Not sure which one I am more scared for).
-Finally the Ultramarines reclaim Damnos but incur heavy losses, they did it for...reasons (Thanks Kelly)

Some things to note however that were actually starting to bother me. There is no mention in fluff that necrons are phasing out anymore, which has me worried this might have been retconned. Dolem gates are still mentioned so they probably still don't have there cool interia-less drives (though shield of Baal:Exterminatus, gives hints that the fleet used them still [most likely conflict of canon]). The weird planet where they have an intergalactic map which they can make a star go supernova is no longer mentioned.
   
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Munga wrote:
It does not say the necrons were corrupted. Just that their world was. The Daemon Prince could have even been on the surface doing whatever he pleased while they slept underneath, or may have even been woken up by chaos trying to dig them up to get at their tech. When the necron leader awoke, his warriors were already there fighting them off. That's really old hate, and they were transferred into metal bodies and had their souls stripped so that they would be better in the fight against chaos.


No its does not say that "Just the world was corrupted and the Caos Demons are on the surface" it very specfically says the Crypts are corrupted - read the quote - its on here a number of times.


919.M41 THE DAEMON’S TOMB
The Daemon Prince Shukketh Voidmaw infects the tomb world of Vorketh with the taint of Chaos. Vorketh’s regent awakens to find his crypts transformed, and his legions already locked in battle.


The Legions are loecked in battle -now that could mean a number of tihngs - the Necrons are fighting the infection, they are fighting each other or even something else.

Also slightly amusing since Necrons can eradicate daemonic incursions with Null generators at the heart of tomb worlds.
yeah but they don;t always work -/ are operational or indeed have them anymore on a given Tomb world depends on the plot

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I was so shocked when I read "what the Imperium cannot know is that, should the Necrons ever fully awake and unite, they would face a foe as numerous as themselves. For now, the Imperium has had but a taste of Necron might"

THIS MEANS TRILLIONS OF NECRONS!

HOLY S**T!

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 daBIGboss wrote:
I was so shocked when I read "what the Imperium cannot know is that, should the Necrons ever fully awake and unite, they would face a foe as numerous as themselves. For now, the Imperium has had but a taste of Necron might"

THIS MEANS TRILLIONS OF NECRONS!

HOLY S**T!


Last codex already said they had many millions of worlds.
   
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 daBIGboss wrote:
THIS MEANS TRILLIONS OF NECRONS!

HOLY S**T!


More like quadrillions or quintillions.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't a daemon possess the metal of the Necron much like they do to vehicles (i.e. Rhinos, Defilers, Land Raiders, etc.)? If so what would be that process? And it could be what happened to the Tomb World.
   
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Corruption to a machine just simply means not functioning correctly. It does not mean they are chaos necrons. If you have a corrupted file, it's not actually possessed.
   
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Shadowclaimer wrote:i don't understand how Necrons work exactly.They supposedly don't have souls, yet their bodies contain personalities and minds and everything but no AI or digital storage or something?


Necrons are people stored digitally. Necrontyr minds uploaded onto electronic hardware and loaded into mechanical bodies.



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Munga wrote:
Corruption to a machine just simply means not functioning correctly. It does not mean they are chaos necrons. If you have a corrupted file, it's not actually possessed.


Reaching here I think - this is Chaos corruption not a manmade virus in our modern computers and Necrons are subject to the restrictions of physical form including that of entropy - a aspect of Chaos itself. The eaxact words are transformed and infected - pretty definative in whats happneed to the structure of the very tlmb world that sustains that particular dynasty,

According to the Codex itself many Necron leaders have for the most part succumbed to some form of madness or another, their physical forms can be corrupted and they have no defense against the Flayer virus unlashed upon them which has consumed entire dynasties. The destoryer Cult is powerful and is likely to slip more and more out of the control of the various Overlords.

The Necrons are perhaps the most powerful and technological advanced race in 40k but they were no match for the Old Ones before they enlisted the aid of the C'tan.................

The Silent King may bring them together or they may join the other races merely fighting to surviv..............

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Munga wrote:
Corruption to a machine just simply means not functioning correctly. It does not mean they are chaos necrons. If you have a corrupted file, it's not actually possessed.


Reaching here I think - this is Chaos corruption not a manmade virus in our modern computers and Necrons are subject to the restrictions of physical form including that of entropy - a aspect of Chaos itself. The eaxact words are transformed and infected - pretty definative in whats happneed to the structure of the very tlmb world that sustains that particular dynasty,

According to the Codex itself many Necron leaders have for the most part succumbed to some form of madness or another, their physical forms can be corrupted and they have no defense against the Flayer virus unlashed upon them which has consumed entire dynasties. The destroyer Cult is powerful and is likely to slip more and more out of the control of the various Overlords.

The Necrons are perhaps the most powerful and technological advanced race in 40k but they were no match for the Old Ones before they enlisted the aid of the C'tan.................


This is true for the most, it has never been openly said that chaos cannot corrupt necrons metal. Keep in mind that they still have chaos machines from the Men of Iron. However necrons are different that have atomic sized scarabs constantly eating and rebuilding new necrodermis that is not up to protocol.

yeah but they don;t always work -/ are operational or indeed have them anymore on a given Tomb world depends on the plot

While every world may not have null fields it is plausible to say thousands do. My reasoning for this being is that they fought the Old Ones and Eldar, stating in the old fluff that they simply were losing due to their inability to use psychic abilities. With the old ones being masters of psyker warfare the Necrontyr would have made millions of anti warp weapons. I digress if this is not plausible enough keep in mind every canoptek spyder has a gloom prism that nulls out warp phenomena. One more thing in the 5th edition codex whenever necrons were too badly damaged or risked being captured, in order to protect their secrets they would simply self destruct leaving behind not even atoms. This could easily be applied to warp corruption as well.
   
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Indeed - I can def see a standard self destruct protacol being enacted in the event of capture / corruption - although nothing seems to stop the Flayer Virus,but its not foolproof as event the Imperium has captured Necrons in the past.

The Gloom Prisim is def interesting and fits with other Necron Tech that is antiwarp such as the Pylons which seem to be back again as important.....

I think is right to say the Necrons are usually very well protected and armoured against the Warp and Chaos but just not immune.

The bit with nanoscarbs is a bit odd as also they also describe Necrons as rusting or degrading? Unless this is part of the Overlords design I guess

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