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The only reference to chaos corruption I could see is this:

The Daemon Prince Shukketh Voidmaw infects the tomb world of Vorketh with the taint of Chaos. Vorketh’s regent awakens to find his crypts transformed, and his legions already locked in battle

Sounds more like a daemon incursion the necrons were fighting off than corrupted necrons.

 Mr Morden wrote:


The bit with nanoscarbs is a bit odd as also they also describe Necrons as rusting or degrading? Unless this is part of the Overlords design I guess

Yeah, it describes how living metal works for certain dynasty's on pg. 28 of the new codex under the section "Living metal" though it can apparently vary depending upon the dynasty.

I've been told the vast amounts of Wardian silliness from the 5th codex have been somewhat "toned down", including the axing of some specific parts. From what Sabor says, it seems to be the case indeed. Anyone could elaborate a bit further on the matter?

 Korinov wrote:
I've been told the vast amounts of Wardian silliness from the 5th codex have been somewhat "toned down", including the axing of some specific parts. From what Sabor says, it seems to be the case indeed. Anyone could elaborate a bit further on the matter?

A lot of stuff from the prior codex is simply not mentioned in the 7th Ed codex. An optimist would call this "Wardian silliness from the 5th codex have been somewhat 'toned down'". However, I as a pessimist posit that it's simply GW being so friggin' lazy that they can't even boher to copy and paste all the fluff from the prior codex (or are so cheap that they don't want to spend extra on the pages and ink needed for them) so they just left it out entirely.

 Mr Morden wrote:
eg: Confirmation that Necrons can be corrupted by Chaos - a whole Tomb World in fact.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

i was under the impression that necrons, like tau, had no warp signature

 Korinov wrote:
I've been told the vast amounts of Wardian silliness from the 5th codex have been somewhat "toned down", including the axing of some specific parts. From what Sabor says, it seems to be the case indeed. Anyone could elaborate a bit further on the matter?

I wouldn't say so, sure it's not all there, but only because there really isn't all that much. It's not like they tried to go and change anything.

The Blood Angels team-up was slightly altered to be a desperate alliance between Dante and Anrakyr, rather than the Silent King himself.

Also a blurb about all of the Praetorians finding the Silent King and renewing their oaths of servitude before spreading out again, in order to ready the Necrons to fight off the Tyranids.

 j31c3n wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
eg: Confirmation that Necrons can be corrupted by Chaos - a whole Tomb World in fact.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

i was under the impression that necrons, like tau, had no warp signature

The Tau do have a warp signature as they are BLUNT not BLANK - its just very small.

The Necrons are composed of matter that can be warped by Chaos - they are highly resistant to it and have many technologies to protect them but they are not immune.

They are slightly weird in that they have intelligence buy apparently no soul - whereas its implied that AI's can have the latter.

Drakmord wrote:
The Blood Angels team-up was slightly altered to be a desperate alliance between Dante and Anrakyr, rather than the Silent King himself.

Also a blurb about all of the Praetorians finding the Silent King and renewing their oaths of servitude before spreading out again, in order to ready the Necrons to fight off the Tyranids.

Actually, no, they just added a second Blood Angels team-up.

The Dante/Silent King one, and the Dante/Anrakyr one.

Basically, Dante's a xeno-licker.

Mr Morden wrote:They are slightly weird in that they have intelligence buy apparently no soul - whereas its implied that AI's can have the latter.

This is because they had souls, but their souls got eaten by C'tan during biotransference. Or something like that.

It's not clear. Back in the 2nd/3rd edition stuff, they did have souls. Then the idea that the C'tan had eaten the souls cropped up on forums during 4th some time, and Ward included it into the 5th edition book, but at the same time had the C'tan not responsible for Biotransferance.

Err.. the C'tan were responsible for biotransferance. Szeras was the guy who built the devices, but the Deceiver was the guy who suggested it.

Sabor wrote:
The weird planet where they have an intergalactic map which they can make a star go supernova is no longer mentioned.

The Celestial Orrery is actually on the Necron territory map. The map really shows quite a lot, one example being that the Sautekh seem to be in the process of surrounding Ultramar.

Sabor wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

919.M41 THE DAEMON’S TOMB
The Daemon Prince Shukketh Voidmaw infects the tomb world of Vorketh with the taint of
Chaos. Vorketh’s regent awakens to find his crypts transformed, and his legions already
locked in battle.

In regards to notable fluff this is what I found to be rather interesting thus far.
-Kroot try to eat some necrons and get killed by plague nanoscarabs.
-Trazyn the infinite attempts to have a live museum petting zoo of tyranids at his tomb world, this does not go over so well though and he has to purge them. :/
-Szeras finds a Culexus assassin, being so fascinated with one he wants more, sending a message throughout the imperium and the high lords of Terra order a Execution force of them after the cryptek (Not sure which one I am more scared for).

These things are fething amazing.

 Furyou Miko wrote:


It's not clear. Back in the 2nd/3rd edition stuff, they did have souls. Then the idea that the C'tan had eaten the souls cropped up on forums during 4th some time, and Ward included it into the 5th edition book, but at the same time had the C'tan not responsible for Biotransferance.

Do you have a source stating the oldcrons had souls?

Also, the idea that the C'tan ate their souls is stupid and has always been stupid.

It was in the White Dwarf that introduced Immortals, but I don't have the book itself on me so I might be misremembering. Sadly, the Chapter Approved collection that they released with all the Necron rules at the time doesn't feature the fluff.

Also, apparently the guy who wrote the new book does not know what a Scout actually is, since they explain the Tomb Blades as 'Scouts' then talks about them fighting as skirmishers after talking about how they're basically mindless and only follow preprogrammed orders.

it's a tough call whether TruCrons have souls or not. On the one hand, most Necrons arae completely mindless and serve as automatons for the C'tan, doing their will, but on the other hand, Codex: Necrons states that the strongest Necrontyr were able to preserve their mind throughout the bio transfer.

The problem, however, is that in order to transfer an actual soul, you would have to be able to control the warp as all souls, including those of the Necrontyr, are connected to the warp. Since the C'Tan, however, are completely unable to interfere with it, it's safe to say that the Necrons no longer have souls and even those who preserved parts of their former self still have memories etc. but likely not a soul.

I do remember reading something about their souls and what happened to them, but it's been way too long in the past and my mind's all foggy.

The Kroot tried eating inanimate warriors and caught a nanoscarab plague that massacred them. Favorite part of the timeline in the codex.


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 Sigvatr wrote:
it's a tough call whether TruCrons have souls or not. On the one hand, most Necrons arae completely mindless and serve as automatons for the C'tan, doing their will, but on the other hand, Codex: Necrons states that the strongest Necrontyr were able to preserve their mind throughout the bio transfer.

The problem, however, is that in order to transfer an actual soul, you would have to be able to control the warp as all souls, including those of the Necrontyr, are connected to the warp. Since the C'Tan, however, are completely unable to interfere with it, it's safe to say that the Necrons no longer have souls and even those who preserved parts of their former self still have memories etc. but likely not a soul.

I do remember reading something about their souls and what happened to them, but it's been way too long in the past and my mind's all foggy.

What I read states that the Necrons rebelled against the C'Tan and imprisoned them into C'Tan shards. The souls of the Necrontyr were devoured by the C'Tan star gods as energy. The reason the Silent King left the known galaxy was because he felt he had failed his people by trading their souls for everlasting life. Warriors are mindless beings that can only follow orders by a greater Necron. Immortals retained some of their mind, but are still close to the warriors situation. The rest of the Necrons retained their minds and personalities, but alot have gone mad by the passing time in their Tomb Chambers.

...wait what? I am not into Tau fluff much, but aren't Kroot supposed to be kinda intelligent? As in more intelligent than an an average wild animal?

...and they tried to eat SOLID METAL?

Kroot and their Shapers never used to be stupid. Much the opposite.

I'm not too keen on Tau fluff, pretty new to WH40k, but in Necron: Codex it states that yes indeed they tried eating the bodies of the necron warriors they killed and a plague of nanoscarabs infested and killed them.

 Sigvatr wrote:
...wait what? I am not into Tau fluff much, but aren't Kroot supposed to be kinda intelligent? As in more intelligent than an an average wild animal?

...and they tried to eat SOLID METAL?

They've also tried to eat Tyranids before.... and the results weren't all that fantastic.

It's not THAT unreasonable.

Space Marines can digest purely mineral sources of nutrients. There's no reason to assume that the Kroot can't do the same, especially considering that their metabolism is so powerful that they produce literally zero solid waste.

Honestly, I miss some of the Wardian silliness.

Much like 7th edition Orks, Necrons have lost some, maybe all of its comedic potential. The silly geriatrical antics of Nemesor Zahndrekh are just mentioned in passing. Trazyn's backstory has been noticeably altered - from a magpie-ish collector he's been turned into some sort of curator. The former codex painted the Necrons in a slightly humorous light, like the Martians from Mars Attacks after a long stay in a home for the elderly. In the current codex, however, all the double entendres and pop-cultural nods are gone, or decontextualized in a way that makes them meaningless. It does a good job at preserving most Necron fluff and making loose ends meet (no more sub-light torchships, yay) but IMHO it makes for a rather dull read.

 Living Metal wrote:
The Kroot tried eating inanimate warriors and caught a nanoscarab plague that massacred them. Favorite part of the timeline in the codex.

Is this the first time the Tau have defeated a Necron force? And does it suggest that there is a Necron Dynasty near the Tau?

There is indeed - the Tau are actually right in the Necron heartlands, sharing space with the Sautekh dynasty.

 Sabor wrote:

-Szeras finds a Culexus assassin, being so fascinated with one he wants more, sending a message throughout the imperium and the high lords of Terra order a Execution force of them after the cryptek (Not sure which one I am more scared for).

Is this based off the short fiction in the 3E (p8) codex where an imperial assassin attempts to use a C'tan blade against what turns out to be some form of Necron/C'tan?

 Stormonu wrote:

 Sabor wrote:

-Szeras finds a Culexus assassin, being so fascinated with one he wants more, sending a message throughout the imperium and the high lords of Terra order a Execution force of them after the cryptek (Not sure which one I am more scared for).

Is this based off the short fiction in the 3E (p8) codex where an imperial assassin attempts to use a C'tan blade against what turns out to be some form of Necron/C'tan?

Well that assassin was Callidus so I don't think so.....

There's a great section about how all of the dynastic ankhs work. Really useful for making a new dynasty.
Also, there is a Phaeron who woke up obsessed with the triple suns of his world, and gave all his followers golden skin.