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Can Chaoscrons MSU? Lets find out.

==CAD==
=HQ=

* Lord w/ MoK, Juggernaut, Sigil, Axe of Blind Fury - 170

=Elites=
* Mutilator w/ MoN - 61
* Mutilator w/ MoN - 61

=Troops=
* 10 Cultists - 50
* 10 Cultists - 50

=Fast Attack=
* Spawn, MoN - 36
* Spawn, MoN - 36
* Spawn, MoN - 36

=Heavy Support=
* Obliterator, MoN - 76
* Obliterator, MoN - 76
* Obliterator, MoN - 76

=Fortification=
* Imperial Bastion, Comm Relay - 95

==Mephrit Dynasty Detachment==
=HQ=
* Command Barge Lord, Warscythe, Phase Shifter - 180

=Troops=
* 5 Immortals - 85
* Nightscythe - 130
* 5 Immortals - 85
* Nightscythe -130
* 5 Immortals - 85

=Fast Attack=
* 3 Tomb Blades w/ TL Gauss Blasters/Shieldvanes/Nebuloscopes - 66
* 3 Tomb Blades w/ TL Gauss Blasters/Shieldvanes/Nebuloscopes - 66
* Heavy Destroyer - 50

=Heavy Support=
* Heavy Destroyer - 50
* Heavy Destroyer - 50
* Heavy Destroyer - 50

Total Cost: 1850

Options to start on-table or run a near-null deployment, lots of anti-vehicle, moveblocking, and a passable melee threat. Comments and criticisms.

Why is there a heavy destroyer under fast attack? Also I don't really support Multilators, through past experience they have failed me.

You can upgrade one model in a unit of Destroyers to a Heavy Destroyer.

You can take Destroyers in a minimum squad size of one model.


Mutilators are to support boxing in the enemy.

Bargelord is the Warlord, aims for Strategic Traits.

How about going full Wraith, Maulerfiend and Chaos Spawn instead ?

3 Maulerfiends, 3 solo spawn WITHOUT marks, 2 cultist units, 3 units of wraiths w/ whipcoils, 2 units of Voidblade Praetorians, 3 units of Immortals, and the bargelord/juggerlord come to 1855 points. Not my cup of amasec, really. You lose out on a lot of support for the luxury of yelling Leeroy Jenkins..

morgoth wrote:
How about going full Wraith, Maulerfiend and Chaos Spawn instead ?

That's pretty much the list I am thinking of building for my very first army.

Not sure what the chaos forces are adding to the necrons. What is your plan for them as maybe we can better assist with your list?

Chaos Space Marines, like their units in their codex, 99% useless!

Why even bother with the Mutilators? They're wasted points. Just make a full Spawn retinue for the Juggerlord.
With Mephrit you also have your own special Warscythe, which has bonus rules for free (both the regular and special are 20 points, after all).

 buddha wrote:
Not sure what the chaos forces are adding to the necrons. What is your plan for them as maybe we can better assist with your list?

More solos/expendable threats, troubleshooting, and target saturation.

The alternate idea I was interested in was swapping out the Juggerlord for two Sorcerers with Meltabombs/Familiars, and sticking them w/ the Cultists. Run them Malefic, deploy on opposite flanks, and use to reinforce one location or another. Preferred Summons being Hounds/Daemonettes. Use the leftover 10 points to add either Voidreaper or a Gauntlet of Flame.

Like the concept but would recommend the following changes:

Trade Barge lord for anything else in the codex. Put with Immortals in scythe. Ive played with this unit a few times and IMHO its clunky and doesnt do much for the points invested.

Also while I admit my knowledge on Chaos units lacking, I have played against obliterators many times and dont consider them very threatening unless in large numbers. I would drop them and the heavy destroyer out or the FA slot, take a third squad of tomb blades and up the Heavy destroyers in HS slot to two models each.

Should save you ~12 points for upgrades plus whatever you save from HQ swap and keep the movement and MSU feel.

Good Luck.

Take 2, did some additional tweaks.

==CAD==
=HQ=
Sorcerer w/ Familiar, ML 2 - 100
Sorcerer w/ Familiar, ML 2 - 100

=Troops=

10 Cultists - 50
10 Cultists - 50

=Elites=
Mutilator w/ MoN - 61
Mutilator w/ MoN - 61

=Heavy Support=
Obliterator, MoN - 76
Obliterator, MoN - 76
Obliterator, MoN - 76

=Fortification=
Imperial Bastion, Comm Relay - 95

==Mephrit Dynasty Detachment==

=HQ [Primary]=
[Warlord] Command Barge Overlord, Edge of Eternity, Phase Shifter, Gauntlet of Flame - 190

=Troops=
5 Immortals - 85
-Nightscythe - 130
5 Immortals - 85
-Nightscythe -130
5 Immortals - 85

=Fast Attack=
5 Tomb Blades w/ TL Gauss Blasters/Nebuloscopes - 100
5 Tomb Blades w/ TL Gauss Blasters/Nebuloscopes - 100
Heavy Destroyer - 50

=Heavy Support=
Heavy Destroyer - 50
Heavy Destroyer - 50
Heavy Destroyer - 50

I don't think alternative detachments will be accepted as alternatives to CADs for much longer though.

It's obviously two CADs from two different armies in nature, so that bs is bound to stop - or just allow any two detachment from any two sources.